Originally posted by lotjxI don't see how shoving a bunch of newbies is going to be a hit.
So, the new reason Tough Enough failed wasn't the ratings it was de-mystifying the business.
So in what way did Tough Enough fail? How many shows run on MTV for more than three years? It did good ratings on MTV, especially at a time when wrestling was cold, and it made a few midcarders. Some of them were good, some of them weren't. Two of them comprised one of WWE's best acts of the last few years, another one became the lead announcer on a weekly television show. Taylor Matheny was there. All good stuff.
So in what way did Tough Enough fail? How many shows run on MTV for more than three years? It did good ratings on MTV, especially at a time when wrestling was cold, and it made a few midcarders. Some of them were good, some of them weren't. Two of them comprised one of WWE's best acts of the last few years, another one became the lead announcer on a weekly television show. Taylor Matheny was there. All good stuff.
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I know it's pure speculation (either that or homerism, as the guy grew up 45 minutes from me), but I think Matt Cappotelli could've been big too if he didn't have health issues that held him back.
Originally posted by lotjxUFC Fighter is different in that we know its real. Plus, they have a good amount of star trainers.
From the NXT press release WWE and Syfy put out:
"WWE NXT is a hybrid live event/reality show featuring eight well-known, popular WWE Superstars mentoring eight WWE “Rookies.” These Rookies, who are learning the ropes, are athletes who epitomize pop culture and personify strong attributes – they are opinionated and aggressive – which means inherent conflict between Rookies and other Rookies, conflict between Rookies and Pros, as well as, conflict between Pros and Pros. The trials and tribulations of the WWE NXT cast ensure action-packed, innovative entertainment – WWE Style."
There will be Superstars on the show. At least 8 Superstars, one paired with each Rookie.
Since some of you seem to have stopped reading before the last paragragh of the article, it started with...
"Syfy is excited to continue our partnership with WWE, Vince and his team with this innovative live event-reality show." said Syfy president Dave Howe.
Originally posted by CerebusSince some of you seem to have stopped reading before the last paragragh of the article, it started with...
"Syfy is excited to continue our partnership with WWE, Vince and his team with this innovative live event-reality show." said Syfy president Dave Howe.
Sounds like it'll be live?
I'd say part live event, part reality show. So still some arena stuff, and some reality stuff.
(Live event doesn't necessarily mean live broadcast; Smackdown is a live event. Hell, house shows are live events, just with no cameras.)
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Originally posted by StaggerLeeI'd be very interested to know which wrestlers are mentors, because for me, if its somebody I would not want to watch wrestle, I doubt I'd want to watch them mentoring somebody I don't know.
Agreed. Or, even worse, if we have to sit through weeks and weeks of some Bob Holly-esque stiff trying to be a bully on national TV and trying to tell Bryan Danielson that "he doesn't know how to work."
Kirk, crackers are a family food. Happy families. Maybe single people eat crackers, we don't know. Frankly, we don't want to know. It's a market we can do without.
Originally posted by StaggerLeeI'd be very interested to know which wrestlers are mentors, because for me, if its somebody I would not want to watch wrestle, I doubt I'd want to watch them mentoring somebody I don't know.
Agreed. Or, even worse, if we have to sit through weeks and weeks of some Bob Holly-esque stiff trying to be a bully on national TV and trying to tell Bryan Danielson that "he doesn't know how to work."
Yesss, Bob Holly and JBL should be mentors as well! :D
Yes, I'm back! I know, I said I would never ever watch that crap again, but ... I just can't live without it, I guess.
I gotta say this kinda sounds like Tough Enough: Champs vs Scrubs Edition, but it has some differences from that show that sound interesting.
First of all, this isn't some elitist elimination contest where the contestants dreams get shattered once a week. Every new Superstar is already a WWE employee, and making their television debut in a unprecedented way. So If you get use to one you like you don't have to worry about them going anywhere.
Secondly, people love reality shows in this day and age unfortunately. It's a great way to convert new people to wrestling who might not of watched it before since it shows the future superstars as real people trying to break into the big show (no pun) instead of over-the-top violent cartoon characters, which will make them seem more relative.
Thirdly. Skippidy-doo-dah Kaval and Bryan Danielson are finally debuting! I'm with the concensus of seeing Danielson trained by Regal or HBK also. I could give a crap about the other scrubs.
These are the matchups as given by Lordsofpain.net :
Below are the partnerships between WWE Superstars and NXT stars on the new show that debuts next week. A few of these names differ from the list that was released earlier of developmental talents on the show.
* The Miz & Daniel Bryan (Bryan Danielson)
* MVP & Skip Sheffield
* Chris Jericho & Wade Barrett
* Matt Hardy & Justin Gabriel (presumably Justin Angel)
Jericho/Barrett is so awesome. Poor Justin Angel, kid had potential, but at least Matthew is over, but Angel's main problem is mic skills. MVP with Skip Sheffield is some booker's idea of punking MVP, that's gonna be must see TV. Carlito with Michael Tarver will be a trainwreck. Christian/Heath Slater is the best pairing next to Jericho and Barrett. CM Punk with Darren Young.. I do think Darren likes the party lifestyle so that will be great. No idea who Otunga is but I hope he can rap cos thats all R-Truth can really pretend to do.
Originally posted by MedallaGuyThese are the matchups as given by Lordsofpain.net :
Below are the partnerships between WWE Superstars and NXT stars on the new show that debuts next week. A few of these names differ from the list that was released earlier of developmental talents on the show.
* The Miz & Daniel Bryan (Bryan Danielson)
* MVP & Skip Sheffield
* Chris Jericho & Wade Barrett
* Matt Hardy & Justin Gabriel (presumably Justin Angel)
* Carlito & Michael Tarver
* Christian & Heath Slater
* CM Punk & Darren Young
* R-Truth & David Otunga
Yeesh, who names these guys?
I'm curious as to how they're handling these mentor/student relationships, as I can't quite figure out if they're going to be doing this in character or not. Like is this a reality show within the WWE "Universe" or something, as indicated by giving the "rookie's" WWE names and saying the show can cross over into Raw and Smackdown?
Danielson and Miz seems like a pretty good pairing tho, as it's a situation where both guys can learn from the other.
Well, firstly, ECW never had the kind of exposure that WWE gave them in advertising before the PPV so hat explains why it was higher then they ever had before and from the way it was hyped for months on the net you'd expect it to be higher then normal w...