That's besides the point. The point is that nobody would even sign him in the NFL but it didn't take much at all for him to get signed by a CFL team. I don't know what happened to him after that (cut, injured, whatever) but we know that at the very least someone in the CFL thought he was worth signing even though NO ONE in the NFL thought the same.
- StingArmy
Technically, the main reason nobody in the NFL was going to sign him was because he was a headcase. Which also ended up being an issue in the CFL, when he embarassed his prospective team with a live Ustream where he talked about how excited he was to play for the UFL, and was then interrupted by a frantic phone call by his agent, causing him to correct himself.
I agree with you, though, StingArmy; I just really like telling that story. :)
It is the policy of the documentary crew to remain true observers and not interfere with its subjects. Football is a cruel, cruel mistress.
Originally posted by OliverI don't get why people think that the NFL's players are better than the CFL.
Because I can't think of a single person who was cut from the CFL and ended up playing in the NFL.
The CFL is littered with players who either couldn't cut it in the NFL, or who were not even good enough to be drafted into the NFL.
Does Doug Flute count? Rocket Ismail? Ricky Williams? Flutie and Williams had NFL careers before joining the CFL. Now, I know that Flutie (after a brilliant run with the Stampeders and the Argonauts) joined Buffalo and San Diego. Ismail joined the Raiders after winning a Grey Cup with Toronto.
Not sure what happened to Williams though.
Originally posted by hansen9j
Originally posted by OliverIf anything, let's put the Packers vs. the Roughriders in a battle of the greatest fans ever.
Oh, you... /blush
As a resident of Winnipeg and a supporter of the Blue Bombers, it pains me to say that name, let alone acknowledge their existence. But they do have a lot of fans, even around these parts.
Originally posted by OliverDoes Doug Flute count? Rocket Ismail? Ricky Williams? Flutie and Williams had NFL careers before joining the CFL. Now, I know that Flutie (after a brilliant run with the Stampeders and the Argonauts) joined Buffalo and San Diego. Ismail joined the Raiders after winning a Grey Cup with Toronto.
Not sure what happened to Williams though.
Not the same. They all were wooed by the NFL, as opposed to discarded by the CFL.
And Flutie could NOT cut it in the NFL on his first go-around.
(Ricky was an exception, as he joined the Argos while on a drug suspension in the NFL. After he got hurt in his one game as an Argo, he then re-joined the Dolphins to serve out his contract and has been *shockingly* good.)
(edited by hansen9j on 14.1.10 1216) It is the policy of the documentary crew to remain true observers and not interfere with its subjects. Football is a cruel, cruel mistress.
Originally posted by hansen9jAnd Flutie could NOT cut it in the NFL on his first go-around.
Really, he just wasn't given much of a chance in the NFL, but he started eleven games in his first three NFL seasons for the Bears and Patriots, completing 52% of his passes (which wasn't horrible in 1986-88) and leading his team to an 8-3 record in those starts. Then he started three crappy games for the crappy 1989 Pats (who finished a crappy 5-11) and after being passed over that season for Steve Grogan, Marc Wilson, and Tony Eason (which shows how awesome the Pats' coaches were that season), he went up to Canada and the rest is history.
Holy fuck shit motherfucker shit. Read comics. Fuck shit shit fuck shit I sold out when I did my job. Fuck fuck fuck shit fuck. Sorry had to do it....
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Revenge of the Sith = one thumb up from me. Fuck shit. I want to tittie fuck your ass. -- The Guinness. to Cerebus
Lawrence Phillips had a thousand yard season and won a title in Canada, and was too slow to be effective in the NFL (not to mention too many off the field problems).
Am I the only one that thinks that, because of their intense dedication to fundamentals, the Japanese team would hand the Americans their asses? I'm thinking the longball would be the Americans' only advantage.
(I had to bring this thread back. WAAAAAY too much football talk for a baseball thread.)
(edited by SchippeWreck on 14.1.10 1343) "It's magic! We don't need to explain it!"
Originally posted by SchippeWreckAm I the only one that thinks that, because of their intense dedication to fundamentals, the Japanese team would hand the Americans their asses? I'm thinking the longball would be the Americans' only advantage.
(I had to bring this thread back. WAAAAAY too much football talk for a baseball thread.)
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Depends on if you think Japanese fundamentals equals better pitching or not. If the pitching isn't up to snuff, the hitting will take care of itself.
If the Japanese had to play catch up, I am sure superior pitching would dominate them.
I look at Big Mac when he got hurt these last two years. His easy grin was gone... he was unhappy with how he was playing. I think once Griffey's game turns around we'll begin to see him having fun out there again.