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Looks great, the tour at halftime was amazing, but I would be lying if I didn't admit that I started this thread for an I told you so:

http://the-w.com/thread.php/id=31822

As it took less than 3 full quarters in the new stadium for the Titan's punter to hit the scoreboard.
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I just came looking for that very thread. Thanks for doing the dirty work for me :-)
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I couldn't figure out what Joe Buck was talking about when I tuned in, so that must have been it. I thought maybe it was obstructing a view but the ball hit it??? That's going to be a big problem since most punts are in the same general vicinity during the course of the game. 7
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    Originally posted by brick
    Looks great, the tour at halftime was amazing, but I would be lying if I didn't admit that I started this thread for an I told you so:

    http://the-w.com/​thread.php/​id=31822

    As it took less than 3 full quarters in the new stadium for the Titan's punter to hit the scoreboard.
Boy, some people REALLY owe you an apology.



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In the NFL.com video, the announcers (who sound like the Dallas announcers) assert that A. J. Trapasso, the back-up punter (with little to no shot of making the active roster) deliberately punted in such a manner as to hit the video board. They also started talking about it having something to do with U2 before the video turned off.

That lead me to http://www.mysanantonio.com/​sports/​columnists/​buck_​harvey/​54047947.html , which said that Jones knew very well that putting the board at 100 feet would have guaranteed it not getting hit. The board was at 90 feet for the game. The announcers seemed to have the U2 thing backwards. They seemed to imply that it was lower because of U2 coming to town, but in fact this article states that the video board is going to need to be raised another 25 feet to accommodate when U2 performs on October 12.

Put it all together and my personal belief is that Jones put it at that height deliberately hoping that it would get hit and provide even more publicity of Dallas' new stadium. I wager by the regular season opener September 20 it will be at at least 100 feet.

EDIT: And should he not raise it, by rule hitting it is a rekick. So unless someone hits it like twice in a row, forcing the NFL to step in to keep things from getting ridiculous, it shouldn't affect things much.

(edited by Mr. Boffo on 22.8.09 0412)
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    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo


    EDIT: And should he not raise it, by rule hitting it is a rekick. So unless someone hits it like twice in a row, forcing the NFL to step in to keep things from getting ridiculous, it shouldn't affect things much.

    (edited by Mr. Boffo on 22.8.09 0412)






But, if you are punting the ball in the last minute of the half or last minute of a close game, you bang it off the scoreboard a few times and it is an extra few seconds you run off the clock each time. That's something a smart coach would instruct, so it would have to be a visiting team doing it, since that is beyond Wade.
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Originally posted by Mr. Boffo


      EDIT: And should he not raise it, by rule hitting it is a rekick. So unless someone hits it like twice in a row, forcing the NFL to step in to keep things from getting ridiculous, it shouldn't affect things much.

      (edited by Mr. Boffo on 22.8.09 0412)






    But, if you are punting the ball in the last minute of the half or last minute of a close game, you bang it off the scoreboard a few times and it is an extra few seconds you run off the clock each time. That's something a smart coach would instruct, so it would have to be a visiting team doing it, since that is beyond Wade.


I would think that a rekick, in this situation, would put the clock back to where it was?
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What a shocker - a stadium not named after a company. That's a rare thing.

I like that.



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    Originally posted by djp


    I would think that a rekick, in this situation, would put the clock back to where it was?


Other than an untimed down at the end of the half or game because of a defensive penalty, adjusting the clock because of a successful coach's challenge, or the ref adjusting the clock because they or the timekeeper screwed up, I can't think of any situation that puts time back on the clock.

If there was a penalty on the kicking team and the defense wants them to rekick, time isn't put back on the clock then. I see it as the same thing. I tried to google and look at nfl.com/rulebook but wasn't able to find anything from the NFL on the subject. I didn't see the game, so I don't know what happened to the clock and neither nfl.com nor espn.com's recaps mentioned anything about the clock for the rekick.



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    Originally posted by Oliver
    What a shocker - a stadium not named after a company. That's a rare thing.

    I like that.


That's only because nobody is willing/able to pony up $20 million per year for the rights, not because the Cowboys are being 'Old School' here.

I read on ProFootballTalk that the Competition Committee is having a meeting specifically to discuss this issue.
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Kicking off the videoboard deal, Happens all the time in the Arena Football League. I'm curious to see the sightlines for the NBA AllStar game.

(edited by CajunMan on 22.8.09 1532)
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Originally posted by Mr. Boffo


      EDIT: And should he not raise it, by rule hitting it is a rekick. So unless someone hits it like twice in a row, forcing the NFL to step in to keep things from getting ridiculous, it shouldn't affect things much.

      (edited by Mr. Boffo on 22.8.09 0412)


    But, if you are punting the ball in the last minute of the half or last minute of a close game, you bang it off the scoreboard a few times and it is an extra few seconds you run off the clock each time. That's something a smart coach would instruct, so it would have to be a visiting team doing it, since that is beyond Wade.


Yup.

    Originally posted by LA Times
    [Mike] Pereira [director of officiating] said it's entirely possible that a team trying to protect a lead could run time off the clock by intentionally punting the ball into the video board and getting a do-over. He said there is no rule for putting time back on the clock in that situation.




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Yes, so pleased to see that they went from having that STOOPID hole in the roof to having a STOOPID video screen that will no doubt cost them a game at some point.

As long as Jerrah Jones gets to have his surrogate penis on display, it's all good I suppose.

Of course, my team has to deal with allegations that Paul Allen has found some way to illegally amplify sound in an open air stadium (Quest Field) so I guess I'm one to talk . . .

edit: Deadspin weighs in on the story - http://deadspin.com/5343235/cowboys-massive-new-stadium-not-big-enough-to-play-football-in

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Well, I certainly wasn't claiming you couldn't hit it - but I still don't know why you would be kicking the ball straight down the middle of the field instead of trying to put it in a corner. It seems to me any reasonable kick from the middle of the field or so to the opposite corner should be fine (assuming displacement for the hash marks).

I have not done the math nor modelled the geometry.




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Let's hope nothing changes, and this comes up during a regular-season game situation.

I'd pay good money to hear the Dallas crowd scream "DO-OVER!" like it's a sandlot game.

Billion-dollar stadium, ten-cent heads on the ownership. You stay classy, Jerry Jones.






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Well, I got them for my Fantasy Defense, so I hope they keep it up. Being a Giants fan though, I really dont care if they get respect or not. Just as long as the Gmen have a 500 season, I am happy!
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