I think Schill's playoff heroics will push him over the line for HOF voters. Not sure if it'll necessarily be in his first year of eligibility, but he'll get in.
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Yeah, I agree...if you just go by the regular season, he's borderline, probably out, but the postseason puts him in. I mean, the guy was *11-2* career in the postseason. What he did in 2004 was as close to "heroic" as one can get by playing a sport and let's not forget that in 2001 he and Randy Johnson beat the mighty Yankees pretty much all by themselves. (That was a mediocre offensive team at best, and the bullpen blew two games for them but they still managed to take the series.) He also pitched very well in Game 2 to help the Sox win the Series again in 2007. (That turns out to be the last time he pitched in a game.) So that's three World Championships, two of which he was a major leader in. Add that to what he did in the regular season and I'm more than convinced he's a Hall of Famer.
Originally posted by Peter The HegemonYeah, I agree...if you just go by the regular season, he's borderline, probably out, but the postseason puts him in. I mean, the guy was *11-2* career in the postseason. What he did in 2004 was as close to "heroic" as one can get by playing a sport and let's not forget that in 2001 he and Randy Johnson beat the mighty Yankees pretty much all by themselves. (That was a mediocre offensive team at best, and the bullpen blew two games for them but they still managed to take the series.) He also pitched very well in Game 2 to help the Sox win the Series again in 2007. (That turns out to be the last time he pitched in a game.) So that's three World Championships, two of which he was a major leader in. Add that to what he did in the regular season and I'm more than convinced he's a Hall of Famer.
...what PTH said. I can't think of many players I've refered to more as "Whattadouche", but the guy's been one of the best for years and I am pretty sure I'd vote him in if I had a ballot. Four top five finishes (no wins) for the CYA, three 20-win seasons, twice in the top ten in MVP (10th both times, but still), and 300+ Ks three times. He was a horse, and I always admired him as a player even though I hated him as a Yanks fan. He doesn't have the overall career numbers (216 wins, 3.46 ERA), but he was money in the post-season, has three rings, pitched well in the WS for three different teams (3-1/2.06), and over the course of many years, I always thought of him as one of the best in the game.
Umm...holy crap...I really, REALLY did not expect this. Reports: Jim Thome to Los Angeles Dodgers as White Sox deal It looked like the Dodgers were about to be a potential first round exit, but a 3-4-5 combo of Manny, Thome, and Ethier?