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Zeruel
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090311/ap_on_fe_st/odd_xbox_lawsuit

Wow. My first reaction is, that is way more than what a 360 is worth, even if it has a "specialized hard drive" inside of it. I don't even see how it could be worth $1700, unless he had a 1 TB drive in there with every marketplace DLC purchased and it was full of iTunes stuff he bought too.

My second reaction is, can he prove it was in his luggage in the first place? Was it locked? If it was worth that much to him (or $1700), why didn't he put it in a laptop bag and take it as carry-on?





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I could see it being worth $1700 easily. When my house got broken into last year they stole my PS3 and my PS2. I was more upset about the PS2 though because it had a hard drive inside of it with all of my music, thousands of games (NES, SNES, Genesis, etc. emulated games as well as all of my PS2 games I put on my hard drive to save my laser), and a few hundred more episodes of TV shows I ripped from my DVD collection (again, to save my laser). I wouldn't be surprised if he had the same sorts of things on his 360 hard drive.

The real question is, can you recover for things like that? If he ripped his DVDs to his hard drive but he still has the discs themselves, what's the loss? Same for 360 games. And any emulator-type stuff he may have had is of questionable legal character anyway, so good luck trying to get money for THAT.

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Could Microsoft track this 360 if it is ever hooked up to X-box Live?
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
    Originally posted by Lise
    Could Microsoft track this 360 if it is ever hooked up to X-box Live?


If he registered it when he bought it, yes.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.52
    Originally posted by wmatistic
    If he registered it when he bought it, yes.


Will Microsoft track it, though?

When we had two laptops stolen at work a few years ago, campus IT told me that Apple would not give over information on stolen computers that attempted software updates. IT had tried numerous times to get Apple to work with them, but Apple wouldn't budge.







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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.06
    Originally posted by Leroy
      Originally posted by wmatistic
      If he registered it when he bought it, yes.


    Will Microsoft track it, though?

    When we had two laptops stolen at work a few years ago, campus IT told me that Apple would not give over information on stolen computers that attempted software updates. IT had tried numerous times to get Apple to work with them, but Apple wouldn't budge.




Seems like a dick move on Apple's part at first glance, but it's probably the smart thing to do from a legal standpoint. Unless it's in their terms of service that they can turn over information about you whenever they feel like it, they'd be looking at some sort of violation of privacy or contract.

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.52
    Originally posted by StingArmy
    Seems like a dick move on Apple's part at first glance, but it's probably the smart thing to do from a legal standpoint. Unless it's in their terms of service that they can turn over information about you whenever they feel like it, they'd be looking at some sort of violation of privacy or contract.


Actually, I don't blame Apple. I was only frustrated in that it would have been an easy way to get the computers back. We actually did get one back when someone in possession of the computer fired it up in a campus wi-fi zone. Our campus IT folks are REALLY good.

    Originally posted by StingArmy
    Unless it's in their terms of service that they can turn over information about you whenever they feel like it, they'd be looking at some sort of violation of privacy or contract.


Would the terms of service still protect someone in possession of stolen property?

My thought was that Apple would be protected if the police requested the tracking (see also: AT&T's domestic wiretapping). I'm guessing Apple's stance is more along the lines of not wanting to get into the business of turning information over to the state, regardless of the circumstances.




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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
    Originally posted by Leroy
      Originally posted by wmatistic
      If he registered it when he bought it, yes.


    Will Microsoft track it, though?

    When we had two laptops stolen at work a few years ago, campus IT told me that Apple would not give over information on stolen computers that attempted software updates. IT had tried numerous times to get Apple to work with them, but Apple wouldn't budge.





Yes, Microsoft has been very cooperative in these types of cases. If the police ask, they'll flag it and the second it shows up on Live the person with it is in trouble.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.70
    Originally posted by Zeruel
    My first reaction is, that is way more than what a 360 is worth, even if it has a "specialized hard drive" inside of it. I don't even see how it could be worth $1700, unless he had a 1 TB drive in there with every marketplace DLC purchased and it was full of iTunes stuff he bought too.


My first reaction was that if my PS3 got stolen $1 million seems fair to me considering all of the friggin' work it took to do all of the franchise and dynasty modes I have saved on there. Jerks.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.11
    Originally posted by JayJayDean
      Originally posted by Zeruel
      My first reaction is, that is way more than what a 360 is worth, even if it has a "specialized hard drive" inside of it. I don't even see how it could be worth $1700, unless he had a 1 TB drive in there with every marketplace DLC purchased and it was full of iTunes stuff he bought too.


    My first reaction was that if my PS3 got stolen $1 million seems fair to me considering all of the friggin' work it took to do all of the franchise and dynasty modes I have saved on there. Jerks.


Yeah, if I lost all the work I did to unlock everything on Tiger Woods 09 I'd probably have a fit.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.21
Without an update to the story, it's hard to tell whether the system was taken maliciously, or for whatever reason...do airport security have the right to inspect electronic equipment for pirated software or anything of the sort? Or could some baggage handler in the company decide to use the carousel as his own personal department store?

Too many "what if's" for my taste, but I do hope that this gets taken care of.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.17
    Originally posted by Oliver
    do airport security have the right to inspect electronic equipment for pirated software or anything of the sort? Or could some baggage handler in the company decide to use the carousel as his own personal department store?
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume the Xbox was stolen.

I'm pretty sure that if authorities find pirated material on your computer, they do more than just confiscate your computer without telling you why (or that they even did it).

At any rate, I assume your standard airport security has no such authority (and wouldn't be bothered to check). If you can't hijack, blow up, bring down, or screw up a plane with it, they shouldn't be concerned. Customs agents may have that authority, but this guy wasn't crossing national borders.

Bear in mind, we have no evidence that this guy even had any pirated material on there. He had an Xbox 360 "with a specialized hard drive" - for all I know, he stuck a 120 GB drive in a Core system. Maybe he's asking for a dumptruck full of money in hopes that they'll settle for less. If somebody wants to buy my Xbox 360 for a million bucks, I'd sell. Hell, if you want to give me $1,700, I'd take it.



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