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-WWE Open.

-Of course, we start off with footage of the Vince/Donald meeting from last week.

-We start off with a shot of a Barber pole and chair in the ring. Mr. McMahons music hits as we are LIVE from Bakersfield, California at Rabobank Arena. Brutus Beefcake shouldve been brought out to host this segment, unless WWE couldnt find enough coke to pay him with. Vince says after his man wins, hes going to beat Trump up then cut his hair. Vince says bald is the craze in Hollywood these days. We get some photoshops of what Donalds new hairdo would look like. They seem to use this photoshop thing often lately. He actually doesnt look bad bald. Trump has one week to announce his representative, according to McMahon. Vince announces his man is Umaga. No surprise there. Vince says Umaga will be fighting for the I.C. Title....now. Well, after the break, I guess.

[Break]

(1)- Jeff Hardy vs. Umaga
The match is joined in progress. Hardy hits two low dropkicks through the ropes on Umaga, who is on the outside, but Umaga doesnt fall. Umaga catches Hardy coming over the top rope, but Umaga gets pushed into the post. Back in the ring, Umaga with a kick to the throat of Hardy, then a headbutt. Reverse elbow by Umaga catches Hardy coming off the rope. Umagas offense is very punchy-kicky this week. Umaga has the Yokozuna Memorial Trapezius Hold on Hardy. Now the Samoan Submission Machine goes to the middle rope and misses a headbutt attempt. He then misses a splash in the corner and Hardy hits the Whisper-in-the-Wind for a near-fall. Back on his feet, Umaga hits a Samoan drop on Hardy. Umaga drags his prey into the corner, setting up for the running butt slam. Despite taking a long time to set up, Umaga hits. Samoan Spike, and we have a new IC Champ.

Winner: Umaga by pinfall, around 6:00

-Money in the Bank Qualifying Match as RVD faces Edge. Plus, Cena takes on Orton in the main event!

[Break]

-Mick Foley, in a pre-taped interview, plugs his new book, The Hardcore Diaries. Hmm...available in March? They could use him on the show to plug his book....and perhaps be Trumps man.

-Tonight, Melina challenges Mickie James for the womens title (again!).

(2)- Ric Flair and Carlito vs. Lance Cade and Trevor Murdoch
Wow, theyre not waiting to play the Carlito turns on Flair card are they? Cade and Flair start things off. Flair hip-tosses HBCade then tags in Carlito. Carlito hits his springboard elbow (and gets a little more hang-time than usual) for th two. High knee-lift, but Cade hits a version of the Rock Bottom after Murdoch cheap-shots Carlito. Trevor gets tagged in and hammers away on the mug of CCC. Tag back in to Cade and he brings the pain in the form of forearms across Carlitos chest. Murdoch and his sideburns are tagged in, and hes goes to a rest-hold. Carlito works out of it, but Murdoch elbows him down. Murdoch to the high-risk district, and gets caught with a boot. Carlito gets the tag to Flair, who chops Trevor down, then catches him with an elbow off the ropes. He goes after the knee of Murdoch and sets up for the figure-four. The faces double-clothesline Cade out of the ring, and Flair hits a low-blow on Murdoch while Carlito distracted the ref. Tag in to Carlito, back-cracker and the three.

Winners: Flair and Carlito by pinfall at 4:30
Pretty good match. With King talking up the promise of the team, I thought for sure Carlito would turn tonight.

-Tonight, the WM23 MITB qualifying match between the only two winners of the match, RVD and Edge! Next though, we hear from Michaels and Cena!

[Break]

-Michaels says he wants to make sure nothing happens to Cena before WM. They go face-to-face and Michaels plugs the new DX DVD. And Cena plugs The Marine. Then Big Dick Johnson comes in and gets superkicked by Michaels. These guys are joking around and theyre fighting each other in the main event of WM?

-Edge and Rated RKO are backstage talking. Orton is confident hell take care of Cena tonight. Next week, Rated RKO face Cena/HBK for the tag titles!

[Break]

-We get a bit of history via video packages on the WM Money in the Bank Ladder Match.

(3)- Edge vs. Rob Van Dam
Edge and RVD trade arm-locks to start. Crowd clearly behind Van Dam. Edge with a shoulder-block, then a monkey-flip, and another. Edge takes a breather on the outside. This match continues next!

[Break]

Back live, RVD has Edge in an arm-bar. Edge gets back on the offensive, but only for a short time, as RVD oles him over the top rope. RVD hits his leg-drop on Edge on the barricade on the outside, but Edge catches him coming into the ring and both men are down. Edge hits another neck-breaker and gets just a one-count. The Rated R Superstar with a form of a chin-lock on Van Dam. RVD uses his educated feet to break the hold. They trade punches on their feet and RVD hits a vicious heel kick on Edge, who was in the corner. A couple clotheslines by RVD then a savate kick. Another spinning heel kick puts Edge back down. Edge, though, catches him with a Samoan Drop after an attempted Rolling Thunder. Edge places RVD on the top rope, then goes up for a super-plex. RVD puts him groin-first onto the top rope. RVD then propels him to the outside. RVD tries a splash off the top, by Edge greets him in mid-air with a dropkick. Two-count on the pin try. RVD with another solid kick to Edge. Split-legged moonsault for a near fall. Hes got his workin boots on tonight. Edge misses another spear, then RVD hits an ugly spinning kick (you know, the one when he catches the opponents boot then spin-kicks?). That move never looks good. Orton comes out and distracts RVD long enough for Edge to hit the spear and get the pin.

Winner: Edge by pinfall at 13:30
Im surprised RVD got so much offense in. Solid match.

-Still to come, Orton vs. Cena. Up next, Mickie vs. Melina for the Womens Title!

[Break]

(4)- Melina vs. Mickie James
Whatever happened to Victoria? I remember when she plowed through the division. Then disappeared. Some hair pulling comes with the collar-and-elbow tie-up, then Melina gets a hammerlock, but Mickie flips her out of it. Mickie with a seated dropkick. She misses another baseball slide to the outside after Melina got knocked out of the ring. Melina gets in some more hair-pulling and even gets a two-count. Melina gets vicious in a hurry but Mickie, the little spit-fire, fights back. And a hair-pull. Mickie lands some knees square to the head. Mickie comes off the ropes with a Thesz press. Melina walks into a reverse elbow in the corner, but Melina holds onto the ropes on a James hurricanrana attempt. Melina goes for the pin and gets it! New Champ!
Winner:: Melina by pinfall at 4:22
Pretty good energy, and the paparazzi get Melinas pics with the belt after the match.

[Break]

-Backstage, Mickie is being consoled by Maria and Candice til Todd Grisham butts in. He wont stop badgering Mickie about getting a comment about her loss, so she slaps him.

(5) The Highlanders vs. The Great Khali10:24:45 10:26:16
Highlanders get no entrance. This is a handicap match. Highlanders attack before the bell. Robbie gets thrown out but comes back in and works the back of Khali to no avail. Rory gets knocked off the middle rope with one chop. Robbie catches a big boot by Khali. Two-handed chokeslam on Robbie. He gets the pin with one boot on Robbies chest.

Winner: The Great Khali by pinfall at 1:31
I guess they want to keep Khali on the viewers minds in case they come up with something for him at WM.

-Cena vs. Orton is still to come tonight!

[Break]

-The Barbershop is still set up on the stage. We get highlights of Vinces speech from earlier tonight.

-Kenny is talking to Coach backstage. Until Khali walks in, that is. He wants some competition. Then he leaves. Then Ron Simmons says Damn. Hilarity then ensued.

-On Smackdown, Ashley unveiled her Playboy cover. Its on newsstands March 12th. Melina is backstage with some new announcer, but Nitro takes over the interview before he can ask a question. Melina is pissed that Ashleys video package preceeded her.

-Dusty was announced as the first HOF 2007 inductee last week. This week....its Mr. Perfect. Lot of highlights of him being perfect in vignettes. Again, cant really argue with that.

-John Cena is headed to the ring to face Randy Orton, the match is next!

[Break]

(6) John Cena vs. Randy Orton
Collar-and-elbow tie-up in the corner and Orton won that one, stomping away at the Champ. Orton gets reversed into the turnbuckle though and Cena hits his fisherman suplex that would make Hennig wretch. Uppercut by Orton and hes back in control. Off the ropes, and Cena catches him with a hip-toss, cover gets two. A see-saw match to this point, and as I type that, a double-clothesline puts both men down. Orton goes for the chair pretty early (why not? Its non-title). Before he uses it, we go to break.

[Break]

-Back live and Orton has Cena in a chin-lock. During the break, Cena visited the steel steps up close. Off the ropes and Cena misses a flying body-press, as Orton ducked. Orton gets a DDT and Cena kicks out, much to the chagrin of young Randolph. RKO puts the boots to Cena. Flying knee-drop finds the mark, but Cena kicks out again. Standing rear chin-lock now by Orton, and it brings Cena down to the mat. Cena breaks out and now hes pissed. Clotheslines then a shoulder-block put Orton down. Crowd is fully behind the Champ. You cant see me fist-drop hits, but Orton rakes the eyes to get out of the FU. To the top, cross-body by Orton, Cena rolls through and gets a near-fall. Back-breaker puts Cena down and RKO is set up. Cena pushes him off though and now he goes for another FU. Edge comes in though to interfere and hits a spear for the DQ. Edge grabs two chairs from ringside, but before they can use them, HBK comes out to make the save and wails Edge and Orton with the chairs. Cena gets up in time to see HBK with the chair, and goes paranoid. HBK teased a superkick, but only slightly. Cena makes sure not to take his eyes off Michaels. The two stare at each other as the show ends.

Winner: John Cena by DQ at 13:03
Another pretty decent match, but a few too many dead spots (read: Orton rest holds).

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It had a great flow...I agree with RVD statement considering the buzz since last week has it he's leaving WWE land so the job outs have begun.

Liked Coach deciphering Khali.
Seemed like good RAW to me...quality leading into Mania always seems to go up.

Love the HBK/Cena teasing. Cena looking like he shouldn't trust Shawn while he looks like he could nail him at any moment.

Umm I think they should run with Flair/Carlito team yet it probably won't last long. It seems like a very, very, natural thing for both of them.

OVERALL: Was along for the ride tonight.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.51
I've been watching Raw more lately since MNF ended. It looked like Cena kind of "hulked up" during his match tonight. Does he do that a lot?

I'm gettin excited waiting for the swerves to come. Carlito would be best off turning on Flair pretty soon. As for Cena and HBK, I think Cena will be the first to strike. He seems to be getting more paranoid everytime he gets in the ring with Shawn.

I do think Cena got the better of tha duel dvd promo tonight. "In certain parts of the film John Cena is invincible to bullets."

Having Big Dick Johnson knocked the fuck out almost made up for him being on my tv.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.01
Something that bugs me about the WWE Hall of Fame (and maybe this doesn't belong in this thread so much) is that certain aspects of the inductees get overlooked that really contributed to why they're even in the hall of fame.

I mean, I know showing clips of Curt Hennig bouncing around like a pinball would be counter-intuitive for a presentation that's meant to be honoring him, but that's just part of what made him so much fun to watch.

Nice show tonight, from what I saw. I love Michaels making Cena be all Flinchy McFlincherton just by kinda standing sideways a bit.

Hey, do all face/face matchups for Wrestlemania have them teaming up against a pair of heels first and then doing the dissolution of the mutual trust thing? I seem to remember them doing that with Kurt Angle and Triple H in the buildup to X-7, and way back in the day with Earthquake and...Big Boss Man? I really can't remember and I don't know where to look that kind of thing up.

oh well! the build-up to Wrestlemania usually has some entertaining television.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
    Originally posted by Santa Sangre
    I've been watching Raw more lately since MNF ended. It looked like Cena kind of "hulked up" during his match tonight. Does he do that a lot


My thoughts exactly. I've been watching Raw throughout MNF (it works just fine for west-coaster). I don't recall seeing Cena doing that before. I'll give Cena credit, he made it original for himself. The frustrated kick on the bottom rope and the fist to the head to create the "Hulking Up" effect worked for me. Cena took a staple of Hogan and made it his own (even though I thought about "Hulking Up" when he did it). I'd love it if Cena continued that motion prior to his five moves of death from now on!

I enjoyed just about all of Raw tonight. Count me in as loving the HBK Sweet Chin Music tease. Well executed HBK!

(edited by The Guinness. on 20.2.07 0136)


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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.36
Good lordy, that video of Curt Hennig reminded me of just how much I miss him. I think back to his out of nowhere face turn when he teamed up with Randy Savage to take on Ric Flair and Razor Ramon, and how great he worked as a face.

In fact, the aforementioned angle can be found on Youtube, too.

Also...two title changes on FREE TV? I like it! This was an exciting episode of Raw, and I loved it.



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Just for fun (because I have a strange definition of "fun" - also because I forgot to put RAW on the DVR so I had to make use of other available resources - thus, I'm still up at 0430) here are some stills for your own personal use only, not for profit, I'm sure this is all WWE property and please don't sue me, fair use, review purposes only, very poor quality, fair use, fair use, fair use.








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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
    Originally posted by Alex
    Hey, do all face/face matchups for Wrestlemania have them teaming up against a pair of heels first and then doing the dissolution of the mutual trust thing? I seem to remember them doing that with Kurt Angle and Triple H in the buildup to X-7, and way back in the day with Earthquake and...Big Boss Man?[/QUOTE]

    Wait, what? Angle and Hunter have never even wrestled at 'Mania.


      I really can't remember and I don't know where to look that kind of thing up.

      oh well! the build-up to Wrestlemania usually has some entertaining television.


    This is somewhat true, but I tihnk the 'E deserve some special credit this year. This has been the best-built 'Mania in years so far.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.21
Ok, I'll admit, when I saw the barber pole...I felt that Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake was coming out. Didn't happen, but I was prepared for it. Vince then comes out, and I was also prepared for that, getting good use out of my FFWD button.

I like the thought of Flair and Carlito working together, very curious to see where this goes, and kudos to Murdoch, he sold the Backcracker better than anyone I've seen thus far.

Edge and RVD was very fun to watch, and I was just disappointed with the ending. However, very excited about MITB coming back for it's 3rd installment.

Mickie loses the title, but instantly redeems herself by the slap she put on Grisham. I don't know if it just hit me the right way or what, but that had me on the floor laughing.

Can't say I paid attention to Orton/Cena, but all in all, it was a pretty good Raw.




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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.25
The Mr. Perfect video would have been nicer had it included more wrestling than just the few Perfectplexes. A lot of ring entrances and a LOT of him playing sports. Is the WWE afraid to show his work against Bret or Macho?



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.57
Be glad we didn't get Orton vs. Cena at WM, that was a lot of chinlockin'!

So is Foley going to be Umaga's opponent?

Good show overall, I have to say.





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    Originally posted by kentish
    Be glad we didn't get Orton vs. Cena at WM, that was a lot of chinlockin'!

    So is Foley going to be Umaga's opponent?

    Good show overall, I have to say.



If it is not Foley, then it will be Stone Cold Steve Austin. For the WWE's sake, they better hope it is Austin because that will increase the PPV orders much more than Foley. My guess is if they want to make Umaga more of a monster, then it is Foley. If they want the money and Umaga be damned, then it is Austin.



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It's going to be Lashley. And there's no way in Hell Trump gets his head shaved - Umaga is going down.



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for a second last night I thought it might be Austin vs. Hogan. And maybe Vince and Hulk had been working the smarks regarding their "falling out". Austin would align with Trump, and Hogan with Vince. Oh, well.




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Call me crazy, but with Khali still having squash matches on TV every week and demanding better competition from Coach, this Raw left me feeling that he's gonna turn face and be Trump's mystery guy next week.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.28
Was it just me or did Edge get kicked in the face like 8 or 9 times? And rolling thunder reversal into a powerslam was just wonderful.





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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.29
Someone said that Umaga was on the last episode of Hogan knows best. And I am pretty sure this week's episode is about Vince asking Hogan to sign a thirty year deal to secure his rights and come back to work matches for the next few years...

Interesting timing no?

EDITED TO add the VH1 description of this week's show...


Hulkmania Forever
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Haku was on the last episode of Hogan Knows Best, along with Duggan (They made fun of him for being in shape), B. Brian Blair, Knobbs AND Saggs, Brutus, and Greg Valentine (I think I got them all).

This week's episode was filmed last summer around the return of SNME. Vince wanted Hulk to sign a 20 year contract at 12 dates/year, but Hulk got him down to 6 dates/year.

The timing of the episode airing was particularly funny when you take into account that Hulk was supposed to be Trump wrestler, but something happened recently to cause a rift between Hogan and McMahon. (Possibly the leaking of the candidates for the Hall of Fame)



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    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    The Mr. Perfect video would have been nicer had it included more wrestling than just the few Perfectplexes. A lot of ring entrances and a LOT of him playing sports. Is the WWE afraid to show his work against Bret or Macho?


They weren't afraid to show the TNA World Champion, so I highly doubt it.

    Originally posted by oldschool
    Wait, what? Angle and Hunter have never even wrestled at 'Mania.


I believe he meant Rock and Austin facing them in tags in the leadup to their match. I remember they teamed up against Taker and Kane, Benoit and Angle, etc.
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I meant as the heels that Stone Cold and the Rock beat up on in tag team matches and then did the "made ya flinch!" thing afterwards.
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