Guys like Eddy come around so very rarely - the seemingly natural worker, who learned how to be terrific on the mic. There are only a handful of guys who are great on the mic AND in the ring, with credible offense AND do a great job storytelling, and selling to make their opponents look good if not great. Guys who take a terrible angle on paper (feud with Rey Rey) and find a way to make it worth watching. Guys who bust their asses off for our enjoyment. Guys who are at ease playing both the face and heel roles.
The Rock, Stone Cold, Jericho had these qualities but are all gone. Angle and HBK are the only two left who can compare favorably on all measures (though Flair did, but his best days are behind him). Others may be stronger in some areas and weaker in others, but for all around entertainment Eddie left a huge void.
Let's not forget - Eddie made JBL, out of a career midcarder. His breakup with Chavo was arguably one of the best tag team breakups ever.
I'm still stunnned, after just hearing this this morning.
Yes, I'm echoing what everyone else has said, but Rest in Peace, Latino Heat.
You wanted the best, you got... Out of Context Quote of the Week.
"I have no reason left to live. Now where the hell does this 7 go?" (Spank E)
When I popped onto the board yesterday, I saw the number of posts and, per my usual pattern, saved this forum and One Question... for last. Went to One Question because I figured it'd take forever to wade through those posts, when I saw the thread about your favorite Eddie memory.
"RIP? What the hell are they talk--oh. NO."
On one level, I could believe it, but... I'm still stunned. I just drove home to set the VCR to tape Raw, and I'm taping Smackdown too. I've been trying to think of ways to describe Eddie to my non-wrestling fan friends, but they just won't be able to appreciate the loss.
Go with the gods, Eddie. There's tag ropes with your name on them waiting for you.
I don't think there is anything I can say that has already been said about Eddie Guerrero but this morning, I had an image that I would like to share with you all.
I saw an image in my head of Eddie Driving his low rider to the Pearly Gates of Heaven and sitting at the Gates was Gorilla Monsoon at the Gorilla Position and opening the doors for Eddie to enter heaven and telling him that God needs help with his low rider.
Thank you for all the memories Eddie. I will never forget you and you will be truly missed. Rest in peace my friend and hopefully I can meet you up there one day.
There has been plenty of threads dedicated to wrestlers over the years that have died before their time, but this is the first one that made me want to respond as well. There is just something terribly wrong with an athelete dying before they are 40 by what looks to be a cardiac arrest. Of course everyone can preach that steroids and pain killer addiction is bad, but the fact of the matter is that the wrestling industry awards people who abuse drugs to stay big and perform every night. It's terrible, but it's not going to change until the business (WWE) changes, whether that be regulation or the formation of wrestler unions.
I feel sad for Eddie's family because he died at such an early age. I think he could have been easily one of the top guys of the WWE for many more years. Whether it was wrestling, or talking, or playing on the emotions of the fans, Eddie was the total package. The business has lost one of its brightest stars.
When I woke up yesterday morning and read the news, I could not believe it. I was bummed all day until I went to work at the TV station. I got excited when I found out that we were going to run the story in our local news and I was going to get to make the "over the shoulder" graphic. I spent almost an hour setting up a picture of Eddie doing his shoulder strut in front of a background picture of Eddie doing a frog splash on Charlie Haas.
Goodbye Eddie, you had a great career and we will all miss you. I would love to be able to see you cheat your way into heaven by jumping the gates while St. Peter has his back turned.
I taped RAW, and I'll tape Smackdown, but I don't feel up to watching them. I don't know when I will. I miss Eddie.
--K
Last 5 movies seen: Abbott and Costello Meet the Invisible Man - Charlie and the Chocolate Factory - Ciao, Professore! - The Wolf Man - It's A Wonderful Life
You wanted the best, you got... Out of Context Quote of the Week.
"I have no reason left to live. Now where the hell does this 7 go?" (Spank E)
Originally posted by Karlos the JackalI taped RAW, and I'll tape Smackdown, but I don't feel up to watching them. I don't know when I will. I miss Eddie.
--K
Hope you know how to copy them. I taped Raw, but thanks to technical difficulties, I didn't get ANY of the video. Don't know if my father would be willing to do something else for two hours so I could tape Smackdown, but unless I can find someone who can copy Raw, if I sent a blank tape and postage...
Originally posted by Karlos the JackalI taped RAW, and I'll tape Smackdown, but I don't feel up to watching them. I don't know when I will. I miss Eddie.
--K
Hope you know how to copy them. I taped Raw, but thanks to technical difficulties, I didn't get ANY of the video. Don't know if my father would be willing to do something else for two hours so I could tape Smackdown, but unless I can find someone who can copy Raw, if I sent a blank tape and postage...
I'll PM you.
Last 5 movies seen: Abbott and Costello Meet the Invisible Man - Charlie and the Chocolate Factory - Ciao, Professore! - The Wolf Man - It's A Wonderful Life
I'd like to share with all of you what I wrote in the Arizona Republic guestbook for Eddie Guerrero. I scarcely had the words to express my feelings when I posted in this thread earlier, so I hope this can better convey my proper respects for one of the greatest wrestlers of our time:
As wrestling fans our entire lives, my twin brother, Richard, and I had our first chance to see Eddie Guerrero wrestle on an ECW broadcast in March, 1995. (We knew of Eddie at that point, read about his awesome matches in Pro Wrestling Illustrated and its sister magazines, and in fact, we were major fans for his older brother Chavo during his run in the UWF back in the mid 1980s.)
After my brother Richard and I witnessed the awesome 30-minute time-limit draw between Eddie and Dean Malenko, we became fans of Eddie Guerrero for the rest of time. Not only did he help to restore our love for wrestling, he also became a hero to us. His wrestling career was simply one spectacular moment after the next, from his awesome run in WCW to his WWE Title win at Backlash 2004 and his win at WrestleMania XX. For a man who was so talented and gifted, all the gold he won in the ring pales in comparison and truly does not lend justice to the true champion Eddie Guerrero was and will always be to all of us fans.
From Japan to Mexico to virtually every point on the map here in the United States, Eddie Guerrero has established a core of fans that is absolutely immense, regardless of race, sex, or generation. And I am proud to say that I will always, always be a fan. He will be sorely missed by us all. May the Guerrero family be blessed in this time of mourning and everyday thereafter. I wish nothing but the best for the family and friends of Eddie Guerrero.
Thank you Eddie, for all the wonderful moments and memories you gave to all of us wrestling fans. Thank you for being a wonderful example of how a great man can overcome the odds, attain glory and triumph, and bring people together and make them laugh and cheer TOGETHER. You shall not be forgotten... ever.
Farewell, Champion of our World.
If your nose is full of boogers it's snot my fault!
I know I already posted, but....I tell people "Eddie Guerrero passed away" and they just don't understand. They don't understand who he was and what he did. And they certainly don't understand how his death effects me and other people like you guys.
So I just wanted to say thanks to all the W's in here, who do understand. And thanks for posting your thoughts and feelings. Because it's good to know I ain't alone in missing Eddie. And thanks to the Brothers Zim for letting us post about this stuff.
AMusing story; I live with five other guys. needless to say,w e have guests over quite often. We posted bios of each other up on the wall so guests can see it. Mostly as a joke. For my most used quote that they picked for my bio?
"Cheat to win!!".
RIP Eddie. Thanks for the greatness.
When we've been here ten thousand years... Bright shining as the sun. We've no less days to sing God's praise... Then when we've first begun.
amen to that el nastio .. I shouldn't be as surprised as I am about my grief... but its what, day 3 and I'm still all teary over it. Glad I have this board to read, that's for sure.
Vickie Guerrero speaks on Eddie's autopsy report Nov. 15, 2005
After the untimely passing of Eddie Guerrero, WWE and the entire sports-entertainment community is still reeling from the devastating loss of a champion. The initial autopsy reports on Guerrero have come in. WWE.com spoke with Eddie’s widow, Vickie Guerrero, earlier today.
“It was heart failure. It was from his past – the drinking and the drug abuse. They found signs of heart disease. She (the examiner) said that the blood vessels were very worn and narrow, and that just showed all the abuse from the scheduling of work and his past. And Eddie just worked out like crazy all the time. It made his heart grow bigger and work harder and the vessels were getting smaller, and that’s what caused the heart failure. He went into a deep sleep.
As soon as they saw his heart, they saw the lining of his heart already had the heart disease. There was no trauma, and Eddie hadn’t hurt himself in any way. It answered a lot of questions. I knew Eddie wasn’t feeling very good for the last week. He was home and kept saying he wasn’t feeling good and we thought it was just “road tired.” So we thought he just had to rest. It answered a lot of my questions, too, because he was just so exhausted. She said it was normal because the heart was working so hard.
When he didn’t call me last night and the night before I knew it was for real, because he would call me every night. I miss his phone calls. I cried through the whole thing (last night).
I loved his laugh. His laugh was the best.
We just celebrated his four-year sobriety last Thursday. We just thought we had life by the handful. We thought we had it all figured out. He worked so hard to make a better life for us.
I’m just overwhelmed by how people are coming out. It’s touched my heart a lot.
Everybody was just in awe last night in how beautifully everything was put together.
All my life was wrestling. All he did was take care of them and live for that. And I don’t know what to do now.”
I read the news on Sunday, and it was a shock, but I didn't cry. I read everything on here and elsewhere about their favorite Eddie memories, and I felt the hurt, but I didn't cry. I watched RAW last night, and it was tough watching these men who are portrayed as superheroes, as monsters, as larger-than-life athletes openly weeping, and it was almost too much to handle. But I didn't cry.
Then I read that statement from Vickie Guerrero.
And I did something I never thought I'd do over someone who I know solely through the glowing box on the other side of the room. I cried.
Damn.
(edited by Battlezone on 15.11.05 1040) "It's the four pillars of the male heterosexual psyche. We like naked women, stockings, lesbians, and Sean Connery best as James Bond because that is what being a [man] is." -Jack Davenport, Coupling
Originally posted by Spaceman SpiffAnd Eddie just worked out like crazy all the time. It made his heart grow bigger and work harder and the vessels were getting smaller, and that’s what caused the heart failure.
Not trying to jump to conclusions here, but is there a possibility that this could means steroids or HGH was the thing that killed him?
I don't know. "Killed him" is a pretty strong way to put it, especially with a guy like Eddie, whose past abuse of other substances would also be a contributing factor. I'm not saying the muscle enhancers were doing him any good, but I think in this case it was probably a combination of both, as well as the amount of stress his body was under.
See, this is something I don't always agree with, its more of a self fulfilling prophesy than anything else. Go back to July 4th. Everyone said bad ratings would occur, which did happen.