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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.72
from Wrestling Observer:

--Wrestlemania was a huge success on PPV this year with 940,000 buys estimated at this point, so it's just below all-time record levels.


So the question is WHAT exactly sold people on the show this year? A specific match, the marketing/advertising strategy, or the name of Wrestlemania alone?
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.72
The movie trailor spoofs maybe?
Personally I only bought it for the Money in the Bank match, so, that's MY excuse.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.50
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.35
It's WRESTLEMANIA, man. That's why so many people ordered it.

I also think that the well-built Batista\HHH feud had something to do with it.

Anybody has the other WM buyrates so that we could compare them to WM21?

(edited by Bob C on 25.4.05 1445)

(edited by Bob C on 25.4.05 1445)

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.37
There are so many factors to consider, but using WWE logic the people who should, and hopefully will, get the credit are Cena and Batista. This show was built on their title challenges. The buyrate should be seen as a reflection of that.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.92
Well, Benoit was featured prominently in XX & 21...and they both did MONSTER buyrates. Coincidence?

Probably. Big Four PPVs generally do much better business than the rest, WrestleMania especially.

EDIT: WWE Press Release

(edited by Freeway420 on 25.4.05 1706)


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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.63
Couple of reasons I think it did well...

1. Money in the Bank Match...6 top guys, ladder match

2. Kurt Angle v. Shawn Michaels...This match singlehandedly led to me ordering Mania, the above match only made it much more while.

3. Austin/Hogan/Piper appearances...no wrestling, but big names for the casual fans.

4. The Batista momentum...did anyone honestly think HHH was gonna keep the belt??

XX was a better show IMO, but HBK/Angle was just awesome to watch, and the money in the bank match was great too...the undercard being better than the upper card, go figure.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.23
I really don't think it was the special appearances by Austin and Piper so much that it was a very well built up, excellently marketed show. The build-up IMHO to the main event was certainly more interesting and well done than last year. Although the main event wasn't very good . They were able to spend a lot more money on the marketing to the event this year since it was a smaller venue, and it showed.

But still you had Michaels/Angle which was a long awaited dream match, a 6 man ladder match, and HHH/Batista, which before Mania was built up very well but after that match its lost steam and seriously overstayed its welcome.

Overall, I'd still say XX was a better more satisfying show.

Buyrates for the last few Manias (From Wrestling Info. Archive):



    2000 2.35
    2001 2.18
    2002 1.60
    2003 1.40
    2004 1.63





(edited by The Vile1 on 25.4.05 1650)



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.83
The main factors I think sold the show was the WrestleMania name and the overall card. Because i think the card did look better then last year. You had extremely popular challengers vs. extremely hated champions, very intruging matches like HBK/Angle, Money in the Bank, Rey/Eddie and Taker/Orton. Also the nostalgia of Austin/Piper/Hogan and the hall of fame.

As regards buy rates the No.1 WrestleMania is WrestleMania X-Seven in 2001 with 950,000. WrestleMania X8 in 2002 did 850,000 and WrestleMaia XX in 2004 did 825,000. So this Mania may very well be No. 1 but it is No. 2 as it stands now.

(edited by hhhgamewmx7 on 26.4.05 0055)


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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.46
I'll doublecheck, and I'm not smart enough to distinguish between just counting U.S. buys vs. counting worldwide buys, but off the top of my head it had heretofore gone

1. Wrestlemania 17 - 950,000
2. Wrestlemania 20 - 885,000
3. Wrestlemania 18 - 840,000
4. Wrestlemania 16 - 824,000
5. Wrestlemania 15 - 800,000
6. InVasion '01 - 770,000
7. Wrestlemania 14 - 730,000

and then some order of SummerSlam 98 and 99, Rumble 99 and 02, Starrcade 97, and Backlash 00.

This year's show was on PPV in the UK for the first time or some such, which increases the potential # of buyers, but to what extent exactly I haven't seen.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.88
Well, this show appealed to all people.
Technical marks had Michaels v. Angle and the ladder match.
Casual fans had Hogan, Piper, Austin.

But the main reason this show did well was that simply Batista and Cena are new faces in their basically their first main event slots as top tier guys going after long running heel champions.
Also, people more or less knew that the heel champs were gonna lose.

I think it was such a smartly built up PPV. Something for everyone.
And let's face it, Cena and Batista are drawing really, really well.
If this keeps up, and they give the rub to some of the newer challengers (Edge and Christian perhaps) this could be the beginning of a great period for the E.
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.01
There have been Wrestlemanias on PPV before in the UK.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.46
Myyyy mistake, I just remember Linda being excited about SKY carrying Wrestlemania.
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#14 Posted on
    Originally posted by rvjgd
    There have been Wrestlemanias on PPV before in the UK.


No, there haven't. It was shown for free on Sky Sports in previous years.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.83
There seems to be confusion over the Sky deal and i can confirm what Weevil says, this was the first time EVER that UK viewers paid to see a WrestleMania.



Monte
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
Couldn't it just be that wrestling is up trending in just about every revnue stream...

- It has been getting publicity due to the Spike TV departure / USA Network return

- Similarly around the whole highly publicized Lita / Edge / Matt scandal (any national publicity is good publicity)

- Hogan, Hogan, Hogan, and Hogan? That hall of fame ceremony the night before had people excited.

(edited by Monte on 29.4.05 1534)


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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.63
    Originally posted by Monte
    Couldn't it just be that wrestling is up trending in just about every revnue stream...

    - It has been getting publicity due to the Spike TV departure / USA Network return

    - Similarly around the whole highly publicized Lita / Edge / Matt scandal (any national publicity is good publicity)

    - Hogan, Hogan, Hogan, and Hogan? That hall of fame ceremony the night before had people excited.

    (edited by Monte on 29.4.05 1534)


How are they getting national publicity from their tv deal and the Lita/Hardy breakup?

The HOF ceremony got who excited? Wrestling fans who were buying WM anyway?
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.01
When Sky Box Office first launched, that year's Wrestlemania was PPV, but since then they have been part of Sky Sports subscription until this year.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.83
    Originally posted by rvjgd
    When Sky Box Office first launched, that year's Wrestlemania was PPV, but since then they have been part of Sky Sports subscription until this year.


Which one was that? You may be right because I was too young to remember.



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#20 Posted on
    Originally posted by rvjgd
    When Sky Box Office first launched, that year's Wrestlemania was PPV, but since then they have been part of Sky Sports subscription until this year.

No it wasn't.

Wrestlemania has never been PPV in the UK before. In fact up until 2003 the only shows to be on Box Office were the old UK-only PPV's.
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