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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.74
Adding some intrigue to Boston's pitching state Curt Schilling is now saying he may have to start the season late Click Here (sports.espn.go.com). Add that with Pedro and Lowe being out of the mix and you've got just Wakefield, Wells and Aroyo on the opening day roster. So, they've got to find a way to bulk up that staff one way or the other ... and I'm sure they will.

Peter Gammons is ripping Mets for this deal Click Here (sports.espn.go.com) They're built to win the back pages of newspapers in January, but come September they're trying to figure out what to do next year. Someday they'll figure out fans want winners, which entails performance, not promises and glowing talk-show praise leading into a Jets game.

I know he's a Boston honk, but he's right.







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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.35
I wish that they would have spent the money they used on Pedro to use it towards Beltran. That would have made me a happier Mets fan.



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.65
    Originally posted by Wpob
    I wish that they would have spent the money they used on Pedro to use it towards Beltran. That would have made me a happier Mets fan.


Then the Yanks would've out bid them and they would've gotten nothing instead, atleast this way the Mets can say they got someone away from the Yanks and Redsox for once, it could lead to more free agents going their way in the future.

Besides they now have a pitching staff of Pedro/Glavine/Benson/Traschel/Zambrano. They were 8th in the pitching last year and upgraded. Meanwhile the Braves lost Wright and Ortiz, the Phillies are going to lose Milton and could lose Milwood, and the Marlins lose Pavano. The Mets pitching staff will dominate the weak NL East, if they can add a few bats like Magglio or Alou and a first baseman, they can win this division easily. Then from there anything can happen. So it doesn't really matter to me if Pedro turns out to break down 3 or 4 seasons from now, Minaya is trying to put a team on the field that can win NEXT YEAR. That is all that matters to me.



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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.98
On the one hand, Pedro went 16-9 with a 3.90 ERA last year which is good, but clearly doesn't put him on the top of the league. He also has the lingering injury history, which is the really scary part, and at this point he seems to be built to be a six inning pitcher. 7 innings in a given start is his absolute plateau these days, and 200 IP in a year would probably be a stretch.

On the other hand, it's Pedro Martinez. In his first six years with Boston, his "worst" year was a 19-7 with a 2.89 or something similar. That's amazing, phenomenal, whatever supelative is your favorite. The guy is truly the best pitcher of his generation. And he's only 33, meaning that he could theoretically go another 3 to 4 years after this 4 year contract.

I'm more inclined to side with the first arguement and say that it's a real stupid move to give him 14 million bucks a year. Of course, this is the same ballclub that traded a guy that is supposed to be one of their best pitching prospects for Victor Zambrano, a league leader....in walks, hit batsmen, and wild pitches.

Well, at least Pedro is out of the AL East.
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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.81
The NL East still belongs to the Braves. They got rid of Ortiz and Wright - both overrated. Then they added Hudson and Smoltz as starters now that Kolb is the closer. After all these divisions, I'd never bet against the Braves. At least not during the regular season.
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.67
    Originally posted by skorpio17
    The NL East still belongs to the Braves. They got rid of Ortiz and Wright - both overrated. Then they added Hudson and Smoltz as starters now that Kolb is the closer. After all these divisions, I'd never bet against the Braves. At least not during the regular season.


Hard to argue against 14 division titles in a row.





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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.02
    Originally posted by FleaDude
    Pedro stinks, and I don't like him. And also

    EVERYBODY DANCE NOW!

Okay, see ya.



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