The W - Pro Wrestling - Mania XX Prediction Thread (Heat 3.7 spoiler included, and a potential 3/11 SD as well) (Page 2) This thread has 120 referrals leading to it
Smackdown Tag 4-Way: Haas & Benjamin RAW Tag 4-Way: Jindrak & Cade Divas Tag Match: Sable & Torrie Women's Title: Victoria; Molly shaves (her head) US Title: Gotta be Cena 'Taker/Kane: Deadman goes over Cruiserweight: Chavo Lesnar/Goldberg: Since Bill's gonna split, gotta be Brock Vitamin C battle: Jericho has to win, he's jobbed at the last 2 'Manias Rock & Sock/Evolution: Evolution WWE Title: Eddie World Title: Triple H ... c'mon, you think he's gonna job at the biggest PPV of all time?
Molly/Victoria: Victoria wins, Molly does an Ice Cold (hopefully with sharper clippers this time).
Show/Cena: Duh. Cena kicks out of a chokeslam, hits the FU, gets the three.
Raw four-way: La Resistance. Lameass gimmick aside, they've been doing very good work lately, and giving La Res the titles is a good setup for a hot feud down the line -- Cade and Jindrak are too generic to inspire the kind of hatred La Resistance does.
Smackdown four-way: WGTT. They ain't putting the titles back on the Bashams, the APA are borderline, and while Rikishi and Scotty might retain, that does nothing for the belts.
Taker/Kane: Taker. Tombstone.
Cruiserweight open: Chavo retains.
Lesnar/Goldberg: Lesnar, since this is Vince's chance to prove that his unstoppable monster is better than "WCW's" unstoppable monster.
Rock n Sock/Evolution: Rock and Sock win, leading to Foley/Orton one on one at Backlash.
Jericho/Christian: Jericho, to cement his face turn.
Triple threat: Michaels pins Benoit.
Guerrero/Angle: Guerrero. They can't possibly be planning to give him a one-month title reign.
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Originally posted by oldschoolheroWhilst I take your point, Taker/Kane is easily the runaway sure-thing on the card.
Agreed. I was wrong as I had forgotten about this match. There is now way UT loses his undefeated streak at Wrestlemania. But this brings me back to Cena/Show. If you look at the matches where a face could/should win (Victoria, Jericho, UT, Eddie, Brock (could be a face with Goldberg leaving), Dudleys/RVD&Booker, Mysterio and Rock/Foley against the heels that could/should win (Chavo, Evolution, maybe Kurt), then it makes sense for another heel to win (Show). I hope I am wrong, but nothing the WWE does is shocking anymore.
I think the big tentpole heel wins of the evening will be Trips keeping the belt and-although this goes against my earlier prediction-probably Chavo holding nto his. Word is that the fed holds him in high regard as the kind of heel to build a deivision around, and if its not going to be a surprise winner (ie. Dragon or Nunzio, as the other potential first-timers are all pretty much jobbers) it'll be himr etaining.
As an aside, if Trips really WERE the smartest man in the biz, then he'd seriously consider doing the J.O.B here. Logic? Everyone's always on his case about never putting anybody over, and this one win-which he could then erase by reclaiming it a month later-could plausibly be used to buy him a wealth of goodwill from both fans and fellow workers. With the "Benoit gets the big win" scenario, he's basically giving a big one-finger to everything that's said about him, and he can still hold onto all the power and keep the situation exactly the same by beating Benoit at Backlash.
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Originally posted by oldschoolheroI think the big tentpole heel wins of the evening will be Trips keeping the belt and-although this goes against my earlier prediction-probably Chavo holding nto his. Word is that the fed holds him in high regard as the kind of heel to build a deivision around, and if its not going to be a surprise winner (ie. Dragon or Nunzio, as the other potential first-timers are all pretty much jobbers) it'll be himr etaining.
As an aside, if Trips really WERE the smartest man in the biz, then he'd seriously consider doing the J.O.B here. Logic? Everyone's always on his case about never putting anybody over, and this one win-which he could then erase by reclaiming it a month later-could plausibly be used to buy him a wealth of goodwill from both fans and fellow workers. With the "Benoit gets the big win" scenario, he's basically giving a big one-finger to everything that's said about him, and he can still hold onto all the power and keep the situation exactly the same by beating Benoit at Backlash.
Oldschool,
Agreed about HHH. It would be the ultimate F-You by HHH to all the HHH haters if he lets Benoit pin him cleanly in the middle of the ring on the biggest night of the year. It also leads up to a bigger F-You when he pins Benoit at Backlash and ends Benoit's push right there. But, then what of HBK? Logically (there I go using THAT again!), HHH pinning HBK moves HBK out of the picutre and leaves HHH/Benoit at Backlash. I for one will not be too upset if HHH pins HBK. My level of pissedoffness will increase if Benoit gets pinned or if HBK wins.
Originally posted by oldschoolheroWhilst I take your point, Taker/Kane is easily the runaway sure-thing on the card.
Agreed. I was wrong as I had forgotten about this match. There is now way UT loses his undefeated streak at Wrestlemania. But this brings me back to Cena/Show. If you look at the matches where a face could/should win (Victoria, Jericho, UT, Eddie, Brock (could be a face with Goldberg leaving), Dudleys/RVD&Booker, Mysterio and Rock/Foley against the heels that could/should win (Chavo, Evolution, maybe Kurt), then it makes sense for another heel to win (Show). I hope I am wrong, but nothing the WWE does is shocking anymore.
Here's the problem with Cena getting robbed out of the belt: After it not being defended for 6 months (twice in 6 months, but you get the point) and Cena chasing it since December, it cuts his legs out from under him, and the next SD PPV is 2 months away. Perfect world they should have given the belt on X-Mas night, but if they didn't do it there, they have to do it at Mania. However, a Jericho job allows them to prolong the Christian feud into the April PPV, thus allowing the writers not to have to think up something else for them to do. And really, there wouldn't be much else for them to do within a month, so they might as well stretch it out.
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Ladies and gentlemen, here is Mystic Gohan 2003's predictions for an ass kicking (looking) WrestleMania, i hope i kick the tar out of my cousin Jason (Staplegun), as he always gets the upper hand on me on Mania.
-(RAW) World Heavywieght Championship Triple Threat Match (FIRST EVER IN THE HISTORY OF WRESTLEMANIA...SO?) CHAMPION: "The career killer/burier" Hunter Hearst Awesome (TRIPLE H) Vs. chris benoit Vs. SHAWN MICHAELS -TRIPLE H, he's the first heel to leave Mania champ, and i see a repeat, ;see WrestleMania 2000
-(Smackdown!) WWE Championship Match Champion: Eddie Guerrero Vs. Kurt Angle -ANGLE, double heels leaving mania as champs?, why yes! also, Kurt and Triple H are making their second straight title mania appearences, interesting to see the results though...
-(Smackdown! Vs. RAW) (Smackdown!) BROCK LESNAR Vs. (RAW) goldberg Special ref: "STONE COLD" STEVE AUSTIN -BROCK, um, goldberg leaving on top? i dont think so...
-(Smackdown! Vs. RAW) The Return of the Dead Man (Smackdown!) THE UNDERTAKER VS. KANE -TAKER, i feel like im in 98...wait a minute...
-(RAW) Three on Two Tag Team Match THE ROCK AND SOCK CONNECTION VS. 75 CENT (EVOLUTION) -EVOLUTION, Orton over Foley, no more is need to be said
-(Smackdown!) United States Championship Match Champion: The Big Show Vs. John Cena -CENA, hopefully he puts the dust collector to use...
-(RAW) Chris Jericho Vs. Christian -JERICHO, with a beat down post match
-(Smackdown!) CRUISERWEIGHT OPEN -REY REY, at least ultimo got his wish...now for storm...
-(RAW) Women's Championship Vs. Hair Match Champion: Victoria Vs. Molly Holly -VICKY, watch as a lame molly gimmick unfolds!
-(Smackdown!) Fatal Four Way WWE Tag Team Championship Champions: Rikishi/Scotty Vs. TWGTT Vs. APA Vs. Basham Bros -TWGTT, enough said, if they don't win, i shall take a staple gun to staplegun (sorry for that lameness)
-(RAW) Fatal Four Way World Tag Team Championship...wait a sec.. Champions: Booker/RVD Vs. Jindrak/Cade Vs. La Resistance V 1.5 Vs. Dudleyz -DUDLEYZ, always a Dudleyz mark
(Smackdown! Vs. RAW) PISS BREAK MATCH (Smackdown!) Sable/Torrie Vs. (RAW) Miss Jackie/Stacy Kiebler elf -Sable/Torrie, jeez, who the hell cares!?
great looking mania! let's see how right i am this time...
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Kurt Angle. Nothing against Eddie, but if Benoit wins the World Title, than I feel Eddie must loose the WWE Title.
Benoit. He deserves it, dammit!
Rock 'N Sock. Nice way to hype up Rocky's new movie
Undertaker. Win streak continues. Maybe an appearance from Paul Bearer and Pete Rose to boot!
When in doubt, go with The Word's Greatest Tag team. WGTT Rules!
When in doubt, go with the Dudleyz.
Lesner. Why give Goldy the win, if he's leaving? And if Lesner wants to take some time off after Maina let him. He's probaly burned out ater being either the #1 face or #1 heel over the past year.
Cena. The pushed him this far, it'll be foolish not to go through with it.
Molly. I like her, and find her attractive. I do not want to see my darling Molly Hottie bald.
Christian. Got a feeling Trish turns heel at Mania and helps the Peep-Master.
Trish, Molly, Lillian, Lita, Victoria, Ivory. I'd rather see any of those women in Playboy that the 4 fighting over who was actually in Playboy. But, since I HAVE to choose a team, Torrie and Sable, simple based on combined bust size.
Rey-Rey. He's the only other Crusierweight in the match that WWE has actually gotten behind. I hope Ultimo leaves WWE after this, he was better off in Japan. At least they know how to use him.
HHH wins pinning HBK setting up the rematch with Benoit at Backlash where Benoit finally wins the title
Taker wins
Cena wins the US Title
Dudleys win the tag titles
Jericho wins and Jericho and Trish have their big kiss after the match
World's Greatest Tag Team wins the tag titles
Chavo retains his cruiser belt
Foley/Rock wins. Bob Orton will come out and be in Evolution's corner to counter-act Snuka in the other corner. After the match, Superfly will hit his splash on somebody, probably Flair.
Lesnar wins after an Austin stunner on Goldberg
And who cares who wins in the Divas match, but somebody's boob is going to pop out at some point during the match. Probably Jackie's.
Raw Title - Triple H. Come on it's Wrestlemania XX! He's not jobbing!
Smackdown Title - Eddie retains.
Taker/Kane - No doubt Taker with hopefully a Pete Rose moment in there somewhere.
Jericho/Christian - Christian due to interference from the driver of the car. The Wrestlemania moment with Jericho & Trish will happen as Jericho checks on Trish after a beatdown. People say it needs to be a Savage/Elizabeth moment, but remember Savage LOST the match where that happened.
Molly/Victoria - I think Victoria. Molly gets a little hair cut off but maybe all. Can you imagine a staredown with Austin & Bald Molly?
Raw Tag Title - Dudleys in NYC. RVD turns on Booker.
Smackdown Tag Title - WGTT
Goldberg/Brock - Brock with lots of Stone Cold thrown in.
Cruiserweight - Rey
Rock & Sock/Evolution - Rock & Sock with Flair (of course) jobbing
Big Show/Cena - Cena
Divas match - Does it matter? However, I agree with an earlier poster, has Torrie ever lost?
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CruiserWeight Open - Chavo(pins Rey last) Women's Title - Double DQ WWE Tag Titles - WGTT(Haas pins Scotty) U.S. Title - Cena Evening Gown - Penises Everywhere World Tag Team - La Resistance(Dupree pins D'Von) Taker/Kane - Taker Brock/Goldberg - Lesnar Rock N Sock/Evolution - Evolution(Orton pins Foley) Jericho/Christian - Christian WWE Title - Eddie World Title - Benoit(pins HBK)
Molly vs. Victoria (Title vs. Hair): I've been keeping track. In the last five weeks, the heel women on Raw only won once. Molly gets this one. Even though I do think Molly could pull off the Sinead O'Connor look.
Paul Wight vs. John Cena (US Title): Cena...duh.
Jackie blown spot Gayda/Stacy Kiebler vs. Sable and Torrie charisma killer Wilson: Torrie/Sable
Booker T/RVD vs. French guys vs. Jindrak/Cade vs. Dudleys (Tag Title match): It'll either be RVD/Booker T or Jindrak/Cade. But since Jindrak and Cade picked up the win on Raw, I'm going to say RVD/Booker T.
Rikishi/Scotty vs. TWGTT vs. Bashams vs. aPa (tag title match): The World's Greatest Tag Team.
Undertaker vs. Kane: Undertaker...duh.
Cruiserweight Open: I would love it if London picked up the suprise win here, but it's either going to be Chavo or Rey. I'll say Chavo.
Brock Lesnar vs Goldberg: This one's tough since both competitors are supposedly leaving after the event. I'll say Lesnar though.
Foley and partner vs. Flair/Orton/Batista: Rock 'N Sock
Chris Jericho vs. Christian: I was going to say Christian...until after Raw. Now, I'll say Jericho.
Chris Benoit vs. Michaels vs. HHHitler (disputed title): Triple H. I will put an end to my Triple H hate though if Benoit puts the crossface on Triple H, and he taps out to it. And his reign has to last at LEAST two months.
Eddy Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle (undisputed title): Eddie
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"The integral part of any relationship is knowing you can be killed in your sleep at night." -Trent Reznor
-Molly vs. Victoria (Title vs. Hair)-- MY PICK: VICTORIA-- This ones tough, you don't expect them to take the title off Victoria 3 weeks after winning it. Then again last year around this time they took the title off Trish just a month after winning it after a much longer chase, so who knows what their logic is. The hair stipulation certainly throws a wrench into things. I'll say Victoria wins as Molly goes for a bit of a hair cut.
-BigShow vs. Cena (US Title)-- MY PICK: JOHN CENA-- This one falls under a pretty sure bet.
-Gayda/Kiebler vs. Sable/Torrie -- MY PICK: JACKIE GAYDA & STACY KIEBLER-- I hope this is a loser leaves town match and out of the four I find Stacy to be the only one who has some worth. If something does slip out I hope the marshalls end the entire show like an old Madonna concert just to see Vince's reaction.
-Booker/RVD vs. La Rez vs. Jindrak/Cade vs. Dudleys( World Tag Title match)-- MY PICK: BOOKER T & ROB VAN DAM -- I have no freakin' clue and no it's not because of spectacular booking it's because I see none of these teams going in a forward direction. I pick the champs to keep just because
-Rikishi/Scotty vs. TWGTT vs. Bashams vs. apa (wwe tag title match)-- MY PICK: APA-- I get a feeling they will come out of here with the titles and feud with WGTT post Wrestlemania
-Undertaker vs. Kane-- MY PICK: THE UNDERTAKER-- This entire build just to have Undertaker job, no way!
-Cruiserweight Open-- MY PICK: CHAVO GUERRERO JR.-- It's between him and Rey. I'll pick Chavo just to throw some heel wins in here.
-Lesner vs. Goldberg (Austin as Ref)-- MY PICK: BROCK LESNER-- The only guy that's been on the shows. Goldbergs not getting no HHH treatment.
-Foley/Rock vs. Flair/Orton/Batista-- MY PICK: ROCK N' SOCK CONNECTION-- Sure WWE loves Randy and he'll get his win over Foley but not under these circumstances.
-Jericho vs. Christian-- MY PICK: CHRIS JERICHO-- This one is a very tough one and unlike the Raw Tag Titles match reasons (uninteresting) this one has alot of legit possibilites on how it can go. A Christian win will push him up to a real main heel maybe the most important non-Evolution heel. But Jericho really needs this win after losing constantly as a babyface, he needs to look somewhat credible. I saw Jericho wins with Trish in his corner. The mystery driver comes out after the match to push Trish out of the way and double team on Jericho and lay him out with Christian as Trish then hurt gets back in and help Jericho up and have their special moment.
-Benoit vs. Michaels vs. Trip (World Title)-- MY PICK: TRIPLE H-- Sorry guys, HHH is not coming out of this important event without his title raised over his head.
-Guerrero vs. Angle (WWE title)-- MY PICK: EDDIE GUERRERO-- Your real main event. This this isn't match of the night I'd be shocked, I'm expecting match of the year. These guys will deliever and play their part pefectly.
smark/net attack wienerville advisory is lowered to BLUE alert - Guarded (Due to Eddie being WWE champ and facing Angle at WM, Benoit winning the Rumble in World title match in mania BUT Kliq members is still a threat - Vince you can save us from these threats) 2/17
Honors for Smartest thing ever written, 5th Horseman "When Victoria, Trish, Molly, and Lilian were in the ring.. I commented to my friends that all of the 4 ladies in the ring were hotter than the all 4 that are fighting over who is the hottest in the WWE"
Ungraded first: -Undertaker over Kane -Chris Jericho over Christian -Foley/Rock over Batista/Orton/Flair -Wilson/Sable over Keibler/Miss Jackie -Brock Lesnar over Goldberg
Now the graded stakes: -Rey Mysterio over 9 others (WWECrsrwgt) -John Cena over Big Show (WWEUS) -Victoria over Molly Holly (Women's) -World's Greatest Tag Team over 3 others (WWETag) -Dudley Boyz over 3 others (WldTag) -Eddie Guerrero over Kurt Angle (WWE) -Shawn Michaels over Chris Benoit and Triple H (WldHvywgt)
I know what you're thinking. Did I fire seven shots or six? Well to tell you the truth in all of this confusion I've sorta forgotten myself, so you have to ask yourself one question. Do you feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk? -Whose Line is it Anyway: Scenes From a Hat (Ryan Stiles as Carol Channing).
Booker RVD vs. Dudleyz vs. La Res vs. JinCade: La Res
Cruiserweight Battle Royal: Chavo
Big Slow vs. John Cena: Cena.
Y2J vs. Christian: Y2J, after some inspiration from Trish.
Jackie & Stacy vs. Torrie & Sable: Jackie and Torrie.
Goldberg vs. Lesnar: DDQ, as both men are outta there.
Kane vs. Undertaker: Undertaker
Foley/Rock vs. Evolution: Rock/Foley.
Guerrero vs. Angle: Angle
Benoit vs. Triple H vs. HBK: HBK.
SD2: April, Year 3; what's the point to the Career mode, anyhow? FF7: Disc 1; 4h into game; Cloud...bodyguard, hero, crossdresser?!? FF8: Disc 3; 38h into game; Seeking Sister Ellone to save Rinoa. FF9: Disc 1; 6h into game; Hunting down Dagger after she drugged me!
1) Molly/Victoria -> I could see an upset. Molly will win the title, keeping the hair as well.
2) Show/Cena -> Cena wins title, maybe with the use of the chain.
3) Raw 4-way tag -> I can't see La Resistance winning...I can't see Booker/RVD retaining...It's between Dudleys & Cade/Jindrak. By tight pull, Cade/Jindrak will win the titles...they haven't had the belts yet.
4) Smackdown 4-way tag -> WGTT all the way.
5) Kane/Taker, part LXVIIM, or whatever it is...Taker never loses at WM, and he will stay that way. It will be interesting to see what UT looks like now.
6) Playboy match -> the only winners, the crowd and the viewers. OK, if I had to choose a team, it would be Smackdown team...at least they have had a few actual wrestling matches under their belt.
7) Cruiserweight 10 man open match -> Kidman in a shocker.
8) Jericho/Christian -> Jericho wins a hard fought match. I know this might not happen, but here is how I should book it. After the match, Trish comes out, slaps Jericho. Christian thinks that he's got her. Trish slaps him!!! She grabs the mike, and announces that she's got someone else. Cue music, and coming out is...EDGE!!! Jericho & Christian look surprised as he comes out. Of course, Vince says "Anything can happen."
9) Lesnar/Goldberg -> Lesnar wins, and Austin stunners Brock after the match. Goldberg is upset about losing, provokes Austin, and Austin gives Goldberg the stunner. Then everyone goes their separate ways, literally.
10) Rock and Sock Connection/Evolution -> Rock and Sock connection win.
11) Guerrero/Angle -> This is a definite toss up. I go one way, and then I go the other. This will be the best match of the night. But, I would go with Angle, with help. Angle wins the title.
12) Triple threat match -> This is my blood match of the night, and all of the blood should come from HBK & HHH. The finish, HBK's knee injury comes into play, Benoit pins HBK, HHH is upset that he did not get pinned. So, we set up Backlash...HHH vs Benoit for the title in Edmonton, and HBK takes time off to heal.
I'll be checking the PBP, but we're too cheap to buy.