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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.00
Orton will be the next triple h, well, the whole evolution thing is not so far from the truth



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.91
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    I think Orton blows. I hate watching him. I want his push to stop. It is my place to have that opinion because I'm a fan and it's my money they're after as much as anyone else's. He makes me want to turn off the TV. Never in my entire life watching wrestling have I disliked anyone as much as I dislike Randy Orton. I'm no fan of Austin's and despised his entire run, but never was I so physically, mentally, and spiritually bothered by him. I can't tolerate this guy. I won't pay money to see him. I won't support a brand if he's the champ.

    Now all this aside, if he was at least a good wrestler, or a passable interview I could overlook the fact that I loathe him. That's what I did with Austin. If he had one redeeming quality I'd try to find a way to like him. He's Scotty Riggs with a push that won't stop.

    I am not complaining for the sake of complaining. I am complaining because he sucks. Really badly. Just my opinion but when you HATE something, and you can't get away from it, you speak out.


Pretty much took the words out of my mouth. Randy Orton has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, except for the ephemeral "look" that people go on about to no end.

Since when does a wrestler have to have a certain "look," anyway? look at Austin (big bald-headed redneck, looks like he'd kick your ass and like it) the Rock (Kind of an ethnic pretty-boy, has a cocky eyebrow raise) and Hogan (Huge, roided-up balding guy with bizarre skin tone and handlebar mustache). Of those three, the Rock is the only one who chicks would swoon over on a daily basis, and all three of them have absolutely nothing in common as far as physical appearance. It seems to me that judging a wrestler on his "look," or going for a certain "look" on your roster is insane. Just look at the three guys above. Or Benoit. the man was beat with an ugly stick, but he's over, and not just on the internet.

Thus, giving Randy Orton points for being a pretty-boy with some generic tattoos is crazed logic. Wrestlers do not get over based on their looks. They get over based on ringwork (Orton is about as good as Maven in this respect), promo ability (aside from RNN, which was average at best, Orton is as mediocre on the mic as in the ring), gimmick (Orton is a cocky pretty-boy. Ooh, never seen that before...) and getting lucky on the timing of a push. Orton's batting fucking .000 to me.

There are other wrestlers I dislike, but who don't offend me so much that I want them off my television forever. Test is a good example. He's going to be there forever, so I just deal with it and admit that the guy has a nice big boot and pumphandle slam. I enjoy it when he gets his ass kicked, even though there are other people who I'd rather be watching. But I wouldn't enjoy Randy Orton on television if he jobbed to Stevie Richards every Sunday on Heat. I'd rather see Scott Steiner wrestle Albert than watch Orton with anyone. At least Steiner's got that crazed roid-rage aura about him and Albert's always fun to mock. I can't find a single thing to like about Orton, and seeing him get a push to the moon just rubs salt in an already gaping wound. He hasn't earned it, he doesn't deserve it, and I just plain fucking hate him, and that's my prerogative as a wrestling fan who gives some of his income to WWE.



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.55
    Originally posted by Jakegnosis
    Wrestlers do not get over based on their looks.


Hate to disagree with you, but a BIG part of a guy's success is based on his look. You look at a guy like Goldberg, and he just *looks* like a wrestler. You look at a guy like me, and I don't. You put Goldberg and me in the same ring doing the same moves, and I'll tell you now how over I would be compared to him.

I could say the same for any number of guys that suck as wrestlers, but got insanely over because of their "look". Old School Undertaker, The Warrior, Goldberg, nWo Nash and Hall. Even midcards guys need the right look to keep from slipping into nothingness. Do you really think that RVD would get ANY reaction from the crowd if he came out looking like Homer Simpson?


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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.37
You know alot of the things I've read people say here about Orton such as "not a good wrestler" or "not a very good promo" and what not are things people used to say about Rocky. It takes a while for these guys to hit their prime as a wrestler or for giving a promo if they ever even gain that skill. Actually when I think back to his RNN updates he was much more entertaining then he has been on the stick with the whole evolution Randy or Future H. I don't know if it's just the material he is working with holding him back from being fully entertaining on the mic or what but lets give the guy some time I mean at this point he has been a pro for what 2-3 years tops. If they want to push him fine at some point he will win over the doubters or prove them right. Let us all be glad at least someone new is being given a chance to shine.



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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.00
I can't boo any hunk who does the chicken neck thing to a guy a foot shorter than him. I'll give the Big O time to mature (on the mic at least).



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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.68
    Originally posted by Jakegnosis
      Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
      I think Orton blows. I hate watching him. I want his push to stop. It is my place to have that opinion because I'm a fan and it's my money they're after as much as anyone else's. He makes me want to turn off the TV. Never in my entire life watching wrestling have I disliked anyone as much as I dislike Randy Orton.


    Pretty much took the words out of my mouth. Randy Orton has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, except for the ephemeral "look" that people go on about to no end. Orton's batting fucking .000 to me.

    There are other wrestlers I dislike, but who don't offend me so much that I want them off my television forever.

    I can't find a single thing to like about Orton, and seeing him get a push to the moon just rubs salt in an already gaping wound. He hasn't earned it, he doesn't deserve it, and I just plain fucking hate him, and that's my prerogative as a wrestling fan who gives some of his income to WWE.


Guys, I'm picking up some anger here. Is Orton is so superbly cast as a heel that he makes some fans want to see him painfully killed, or does the cocky pretty-boy thing make men seethe at the sight of him? Shades of HBK, almost.

Really, I'm wondering if the reaction splits depending on sex. Do any of the girls here hate Randy O. with this degree of passion?

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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.30
    Originally posted by Madame Manga
      Originally posted by Jakegnosis
        Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
        I think Orton blows. I hate watching him. I want his push to stop. It is my place to have that opinion because I'm a fan and it's my money they're after as much as anyone else's. He makes me want to turn off the TV. Never in my entire life watching wrestling have I disliked anyone as much as I dislike Randy Orton.


      Pretty much took the words out of my mouth. Randy Orton has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, except for the ephemeral "look" that people go on about to no end. Orton's batting fucking .000 to me.

      There are other wrestlers I dislike, but who don't offend me so much that I want them off my television forever.

      I can't find a single thing to like about Orton, and seeing him get a push to the moon just rubs salt in an already gaping wound. He hasn't earned it, he doesn't deserve it, and I just plain fucking hate him, and that's my prerogative as a wrestling fan who gives some of his income to WWE.


    Guys, I'm picking up some anger here. Is Orton is so superbly cast as a heel that he makes some fans want to see him painfully killed, or does the cocky pretty-boy thing make men seethe at the sight of him? Shades of HBK, almost.

    Really, I'm wondering if the reaction splits depending on sex. Do any of the girls here hate Randy O. with this degree of passion?

    MM


Actually, Madame Manga, yes. I(girl ofcourse)happen to totally agree with the likes of HMD, Jakegnosis and Jeb Lund(see his awesome column). And I'm actually slightly offended that you'd compare him to my HBK. Not only has HBK always been 1000 times more talented in the ring, and more naturally charismatic(all on his OWN terms) but in my opinion is STILL 1000 times better looking. But yes, Randy has done absolutely nothing for me, and I've voiced this opinion before. Randy is not the Rock. He is not HBK. Randy is X-pac. Randy makes me want to puke. Maybe he can improve, it is rather soon to tell. But for now I'm sticking firm to my opinion. He's been on TV for almost two years and hasn't seemed to improve much and has only become MORE annoying. Think about it, 2 years after Rocky debuted(1996) he was already getting over. And Rocky is also better looking than Randy. :p

But granted, I might be the only girl who feels this way about him.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.91
    Originally posted by Tribal Prophet
      Originally posted by Jakegnosis
      Wrestlers do not get over based on their looks.


    Hate to disagree with you, but a BIG part of a guy's success is based on his look. You look at a guy like Goldberg, and he just *looks* like a wrestler. You look at a guy like me, and I don't. You put Goldberg and me in the same ring doing the same moves, and I'll tell you now how over I would be compared to him.

    I could say the same for any number of guys that suck as wrestlers, but got insanely over because of their "look". Old School Undertaker, The Warrior, Goldberg, nWo Nash and Hall. Even midcards guys need the right look to keep from slipping into nothingness. Do you really think that RVD would get ANY reaction from the crowd if he came out looking like Homer Simpson?


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I see your point- Wrestlers should look like they can kick your ass. But I think that's the end of it. Nash and Steiner both have some goofy-ass faces, but they're huge. Hogan is downright bizarre-looking, and Stone Cold isn't going to win any beauty contests. That's not really what I was getting at, and it's my fault for not elaborating better. The current WWE "look" seems to be a trend toward hiring people who wouldn't look out of place modelling in shampoo commercials, or at the least on the cover of a bodybuilding magazine. You know, "pretty people." Generic "tough guy" tattoos seem to be a big part of the package as well, but that's a subject for another post about things that piss me off no end.

Where's the love for the ugly bastards? Having pretty boy looks used to be rare enough to warrant a gimmick based around it; now it's the norm. Wrestling was never about pushing guys your girlfriend wanted to fuck, it was about pushing the guys who looked like the hardest motherfuckers around, who could beat somebody down and make it look convincing. If Randy Orton could do that I wouldn't hate him so much. As it is, he looks like a centerfold from a gay porno, with his poses and smiles (and, yes, I'm aware of the homoerotic subtext of wrestling- with Orton it's not even a subtext). Is this a move by Vince to steal some of the Queer as Folk viewers? Inquiring minds want to know. The Rock and Shawn Michaels had the "ladies want to jump my bones" thing going on, but they could bring it on the mic, and, more importantly, in the ring. I like the cocky pretty-boy heel. I'm a huge fan of Rocky, Jericho and Michaels, and that's their gimmick, and they do it well.

It's kinda late, and I'm rambling, but the point is this: If Orton had a face like Benoit, he wouldn't be in there. He has zero wrestling skills and zero mic skills. He's getting by on this ill-defined "look" alone. And it sucks. It's like when hot chicks get the office job because the boss wants to stare at their tits, but they can't type. Meanwhile, there's an ugly chick who types 100 words per minute applying for the same job, but she doesn't get it because she's got a face like a bulldog licking piss off a nettle. It's injustice, by god, injustice!

And I just hate Randy Orton.



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.51
I don't hate Randy Orton so much as I am indifferent to him. You can be hated and still draw money, but when a crowd is totally apathetic towards you it's all but curtains.

I think the problem with Orton is that I don't buy into his "gimmick". How can you pride yourself on destroying any and all Legends, yet take advice from arguably the biggest one ever in Ric Flair?

I just don't buy into the whole 2nd or third generation wrestler "pedigree" angle. Just because your Dad (or Grandfather) was a wrestler does not necessarily translate into the Son being a competent Wrestler cough*Shawn Stasiak*cough.

I think WWE though that because Rocky was a 3rd generation Wrestler that it was magic in a bottle with Orton. And am I crazy or isn't Chavo a Thirdy also? Where's his mega-push?...Oh ya, he was a "Dubbya See Dubbya" guy....







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#31 Posted on
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad


I think Orton blows. I hate watching him. I want his push to stop. It is my place to have that opinion because I'm a fan and it's my money they're after as much as anyone else's. He makes me want to turn off the TV. Never in my entire life watching wrestling have I disliked anyone as much as I dislike Randy Orton. I'm no fan of Austin's and despised his entire run, but never was I so physically, mentally, and spiritually bothered by him. I can't tolerate this guy. I won't pay money to see him. I won't support a brand if he's the champ.

Now all this aside, if he was at least a good wrestler, or a passable interview I could overlook the fact that I loathe him. That's what I did with Austin. If he had one redeeming quality I'd try to find a way to like him. He's Scotty Riggs with a push that won't stop.

I am not complaining for the sake of complaining. I am complaining because he sucks. Really badly. Just my opinion but when you HATE something, and you can't get away from it, you speak out.


I'm not sure if your hatred stems from your reaction to him being a huge dick as a heel or you don't think he can go at all.

It used to be that a great asshole-type heel would ellicit this type of violent reaction from the fans--real hatred.

But the advent of the tweener has really killed of the classic heel gimmick (which HHH often plays to perfection).

We are supposed to hate the heels, but in the last ten years the boundaries have been muddled and we just don't have many claasic assholes to hate. I think Orton has started to cultivate this persona (being around Flair, one of the biggest asshole heels ever, helps).

To be driven to the point of physical discomfort is a heavy reaction, and maybe what they're trying to create. Heel heat old fashioned style.

(edited by NickBockwinkelFan on 12.12.03 0328)


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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.55
    Originally posted by Jakegnosis
    And I just hate Randy Orton.


Well, no arguement there. Actually, I don't really *hate* Orton enough to hate him. I've come to understand that it's 40% hate for Orton, and 60% hate for the WWE thinking that just because his dad and grandpa wrestled, that he's *automatically* going to be a clone of The Rock. With a bonus 10% of hate due to how he managed to trick so many people into thinking those RNN updates were the highlight of the show, when all he really did was go on tv and say a random number for 8 weeks straight.


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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.68
    Originally posted by darkmatcher
    I(girl ofcourse)happen to totally agree with the likes of HMD, Jakegnosis and Jeb Lund(see his awesome column). And I'm actually slightly offended that you'd compare him to my HBK. Not only has HBK always been 1000 times more talented in the ring, and more naturally charismatic(all on his OWN terms) but in my opinion is STILL 1000 times better looking.


I originally typed "I'm not comparing workrates, natch", but I figured that was already obvious. Remember how high the pitch of hatred went for HBK back in the day? Yes, he was the best at what he did, and a lot of the audience wanted to tear him limb from limb. That isn't the case any more--he was gone too long and is now being sold as an elder statesman face, odd as that is--but the sheer virulence of some fans against him in the middle '90s seemed to be based on some factors in his heel gimmick that Orton is now appropriating.

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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.68
    Originally posted by NickBockwinkelFan
      Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad


    I think Orton blows. I hate watching him. I want his push to stop. It is my place to have that opinion because I'm a fan and it's my money they're after as much as anyone else's. He makes me want to turn off the TV. Never in my entire life watching wrestling have I disliked anyone as much as I dislike Randy Orton. I'm no fan of Austin's and despised his entire run, but never was I so physically, mentally, and spiritually bothered by him. I can't tolerate this guy. I won't pay money to see him. I won't support a brand if he's the champ.

    Now all this aside, if he was at least a good wrestler, or a passable interview I could overlook the fact that I loathe him. That's what I did with Austin. If he had one redeeming quality I'd try to find a way to like him. He's Scotty Riggs with a push that won't stop.

    I am not complaining for the sake of complaining. I am complaining because he sucks. Really badly. Just my opinion but when you HATE something, and you can't get away from it, you speak out.


I'm not sure if your hatred stems from your reaction to him being a huge dick as a heel or you don't think he can go at all.

It used to be that a great asshole-type heel would ellicit this type of violent reaction from the fans--real hatred.

But the advent of the tweener has really killed of the classic heel gimmick (which HHH often plays to perfection).

We are supposed to hate the heels, but in the last ten years the boundaries have been muddled and we just don't have many claasic assholes to hate. I think Orton has started to cultivate this persona (being around Flair, one of the biggest asshole heels ever, helps).

To be driven to the point of physical discomfort is a heavy reaction, and maybe what they're trying to create. Heel heat old fashioned style.

(edited by NickBockwinkelFan on 12.12.03 0328)


I appreciate your view, being that you were party to a different era as evidenced by your rich wrestling boyhood with Bockwinkel, Dick the Brusier, and the AWA. But that kind of heel heat doesn't jive with the understanding that wrestling is fixed which is now too widespread a knowledge to go back on. It was one thing when it was Fred Blassie and you wanted to kill him, it's another thing when the guy you hate yells at a fan at ringside and says: "IT'S A WORK, YOU IDIOT" as Orton did at a house show a while back when a fan accused him of fearing Goldberg. I don't think that kind of heel heat can be created in the current wrestling environment, and probably not ever again.

Now assuming that my hatred of Orton is on that level, it still serves no viable function if I don't want to watch him on TV and won't pay money to see him. WWE hasn't really treated Randy Orton any differently than any other guy outside of the fact that they push him nine times too hard, so I don't think it's their great storytelling that is antecedent in this reaction I have. I just can't stand the guy, I don't want to put money in his pocket. He strikes me as an awful human being. I just have this vibe that he's an immoral creep.






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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.59
My complaint of Randy Orton does not stem from his heelish actions on television but rather reading on Meltzer that he is being pushed to a main event feud with Foley or HHH. He doesn't deserve that because so far, he has been mediocre. When he is on television, I am indifferent.

As for our dislike for Orton being construed as genuine heel heat, not quite. I think we are able to differentiate between the two. For example, I don't think anyone can argue that HHH is an effective heel, but it is the excess of HHH and the overpushing of HHH behind the scenes that pisses us off about the man, not his wrestling character.
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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.19
Ahh...but the essence of "The New Work" is that the Powers that Be leaks "inside" information that is designed to to blur the lines between work and shoot. Thus, our hatred for HHH the man BECOMES our hatred for HHH the wrestling character, and from the tone of these posts, it seems like the same phenomenon is at work with Orton.

The WWE is TRYING to push Orton down our throats, and in such a transparent way to make us hate him for being the beneficiary of the push to the moon. The marks hate him because he looks like a Gay Porn model, and the smarks hate him because he is getting pushed above and beyond more deserving net darlings who have "paid their dues." (Ever wonder why he is feuding with RVD right now?)

We are being played, and we are being played well. He doesn't quite have the skills to match his position on the card, and that's why his heel run in progressing nicely. You see, if *we* like or respect a heel, such as a Kurt Angle or John Cena, it undercuts his heel run, as the smarks start cheering effective heeling. It is a rare thing when a guy can remain over as a heel, even as his talent increases, and he progresses up the card. Apathy is a wrestler's true enemy, not virulent hatred. If you are truly indifferent, then that is one thing, but if you hate him, welcome to the show...
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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.85
I remember when the smarks said similar things about Rocky malvia. Then he did "This is not sing-along-with-the-Rock" and the rest was history.

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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.15
Orton showed some good stuff tonight against Van Dam. He paced the match well, leaned into RVD's kicks, and threw in some new moves. He's had two singles PPV matches and they've both been good. He still needs to have that breakout match and probably on TV too. The problem is that all the guys he should be working every night like Benoit, Guerrero, Angle, and company are on Smackdown. On RAW, there's not really a lot of great face talent for Orton to learn from. Maybe he can get back to that Booker T feud that was almost going to get started in the summer?
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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.55
Well, if he can somehow get into a feud with Mick Foley, that might do just as well. Foley's entire career was built around him making the other guy look like a million bucks.

He's certainly made a lot worse guys than Randy Orton look good.


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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.54

    I see your point- Wrestlers should look like they can kick your ass. But I think that's the end of it. Nash and Steiner both have some goofy-ass faces, but they're huge. Hogan is downright bizarre-looking, and Stone Cold isn't going to win any beauty contests. That's not really what I was getting at, and it's my fault for not elaborating better. The current WWE "look" seems to be a trend toward hiring people who wouldn't look out of place modelling in shampoo commercials, or at the least on the cover of a bodybuilding magazine. You know, "pretty people." Generic "tough guy" tattoos seem to be a big part of the package as well, but that's a subject for another post about things that piss me off no end.

    Where's the love for the ugly bastards?


Vince has plenty of love for A-Train.

Second, WWE is only pushing guys now who can be future movie stars. The Rock has raised the bar on how mainstream a wrestler can get, so now Vince is less interested in pushing people who can wrestle than he is in pushing people that look like matinee idols.



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