Originally posted by The GoonFWIW, it's surprising that people got so bent out of shape over what they said.
Keep in mind that this isn't the first time comments from Natalie Maines have created an uproar. A thread from last August here on the Wienerboard (wienerboard.com) was dedicated to discussing the disparaging remarks Ms. Maines had made about Toby Keith's song "Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue". So, while it may be surprising, it's certainly not unprecedented.
BTW, included with Ms. Maines coments from that time was a stated preference by her for Bruce Spingsteen's songs from "The Rising" over Mr. Keith's song. Just thought that was worth pointing out.
I remember that thread, and I remember being amazed that someone could be so petty as to actually be angry because a country singer disagreed with them. Turns out we were just ahead of the curve.
As for psuedo-patriotic songs, what about that Tommy Hilfiger (I belive) commercial that used CCR's "Fortunate Son", but only the first line - Some folks were born, made to wave the flag - completely ignoring the point of the song:
Some folks are born made to wave the flag, Ooh, the red, white and blue. And when the band plays "Hail to the chief", Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord,
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one
Some folks are born silver spoon in hand, Lord, don't they help themselves But when the taxman comes to the door, Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no millionaire's son It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one
Some folks inherit star spangled eyes, Ooh, they send you down to war And when you ask them, "How much should we give?" Ooh, they only answer More! more! more!
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no military son It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one
Originally posted by The GoonFWIW, it's surprising that people got so bent out of shape over what they said.
Keep in mind that this isn't the first time comments from Natalie Maines have created an uproar. A thread from last August here on the Wienerboard (wienerboard.com) was dedicated to discussing the disparaging remarks Ms. Maines had made about Toby Keith's song "Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue". So, while it may be surprising, it's certainly not unprecedented.
BTW, included with Ms. Maines coments from that time was a stated preference by her for Bruce Spingsteen's songs from "The Rising" over Mr. Keith's song. Just thought that was worth pointing out.
I remember that thread, and I remember being amazed that someone could be so petty as to actually be angry because a country singer disagreed with them. Turns out we were just ahead of the curve.
Hey! Me too Fuzzy! I was amazed that Natalie Maines would get angry because Toby Keith (a country singer) disagreed with her.
As the person who started that thread...I wasn't angry with Ms. Maines. I was just questioning her comments about the song as they made no sense.
I was more than happy to hear her explain herself on TV...that was at least a little more substantial than spouting "We don't like Bush" for the cheap pop.
btw, She's welcome to say whatever she wants, have whatever opinion she wants, and say it to anyone that'll listen. Just don't complain about it when someone disagrees, as if it's somehow unfair for them to voice disagreement with you.
That being said...I do think any "death threats" that they got were out of line. If you don't agree with them, fine. If that means you don't want to watch or listen to them, fine. That's all very reasonable. To threaten bodily harm to someone because of their opinion? Not fine, not by any stretch of the imagination.
I'm way too drunk to find the article online at the moment, but the Dixie Chicks radio station boycott was funded by a puppet group set up by Clear Channel Communications, who own most radio stations in America, and also have close ties with the President. So, it wasn't free-minded Americans or whoever that banned them from the airwaves and encouraged people not to by their cds.
Originally posted by eviljonhunt81I'm way too drunk to find the article online at the moment, but the Dixie Chicks radio station boycott was funded by a puppet group set up by Clear Channel Communications, who own most radio stations in America, and also have close ties with the President. So, it wasn't free-minded Americans or whoever that banned them from the airwaves and encouraged people not to by their cds.
That said, I think they are obnoxious.
You mean Hilary's much vaunted "Right Wing Conspiracy" was behind this? Cool! They haven't done much lately.
It's fine that she said what she said, I'll just spend my money elsewhere. It's kind of asinine though for her to call herself a "role model" and then pose nude on the front of EW, but that's just my opinion.
Which is the one that dumped her husband as soon as they started making money and whose idea was it to use the Paula Abdul 'stretch' lense to make the fat one look somewhat fuckable?
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Originally posted by CerebusWhich is the one that dumped her husband as soon as they started making money and whose idea was it to use the Paula Abdul 'stretch' lense to make the fat one look somewhat fuckable?
I _think_ that that was the fat one too, but it may have been all three for what I can remember.
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Originally posted by The GoonFWIW, it's surprising that people got so bent out of shape over what they said.
Keep in mind that this isn't the first time comments from Natalie Maines have created an uproar. A thread from last August here on the Wienerboard (wienerboard.com) was dedicated to discussing the disparaging remarks Ms. Maines had made about Toby Keith's song "Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue". So, while it may be surprising, it's certainly not unprecedented.
BTW, included with Ms. Maines coments from that time was a stated preference by her for Bruce Spingsteen's songs from "The Rising" over Mr. Keith's song. Just thought that was worth pointing out.
I remember that thread, and I remember being amazed that someone could be so petty as to actually be angry because a country singer disagreed with them. Turns out we were just ahead of the curve.
Hey! Me too Fuzzy! I was amazed that Natalie Maines would get angry because Toby Keith (a country singer) disagreed with her.
As the person who started that thread...I wasn't angry with Ms. Maines. I was just questioning her comments about the song as they made no sense.
I was more than happy to hear her explain herself on TV...that was at least a little more substantial than spouting "We don't like Bush" for the cheap pop.
btw, She's welcome to say whatever she wants, have whatever opinion she wants, and say it to anyone that'll listen. Just don't complain about it when someone disagrees, as if it's somehow unfair for them to voice disagreement with you.
That being said...I do think any "death threats" that they got were out of line. If you don't agree with them, fine. If that means you don't want to watch or listen to them, fine. That's all very reasonable. To threaten bodily harm to someone because of their opinion? Not fine, not by any stretch of the imagination.
I agree with everything save the stuff about how death threats are out of line. If you pose naked on the front of Entertainment Weekly, and then expect people to take your political views seriously, you should get hit pretty damn hard in the head with a tack hammer at least a few times.
Originally posted by LexusI agree with everything save the stuff about how death threats are out of line.
You're actually saying that the death threats were an ACCEPTABLE response to what Natalie said?
Whaddya know -- I finally get to test out the new Ignore function. Bye!
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If you pose naked on the front of Entertainment Weekly, and then expect people to take your political views seriously, you should get hit pretty damn hard in the head with a tack hammer at least a few times.
Try it out on yourself first, and let us know how well it works.
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