Originally posted by ekedolphinBut what's the deal with everyone jumping to conclusions about Tyson Tomko? How many matches has he had, two? How much promo time has he been given?
How many kicks has he flubbed? Five? That could be part of it. He had a PPV match against one of their better workers and it wasn't any good. He was as generic as anyone was expecting. He needs more of this seasoning of which they speak. But all things considered he's not up to wrestle, really, he's up to stand around and look tough, which... well, if tattoos and baldness make someone look tough, then mission accomplished. To me he just looks like a nu metal bassist.
I'm not rushing to call him bad, though. I'd say he's not good.
Albodude, can you please shut up about Mordecai for a few minutes? You started this thread and I thought it would be interesting, discussing writing, wwe and their farmteam.. But you (and as a result others) only keep yapping about that one character.
So the point is..does OVW prepare wrestlers in the wrong way for WWE? Or do the writers in WWE use the newly aquired characters wrong?
I think it's weird that they never allowed someone to take their OVW char into WWE. Perhaps they don't wish to taint them or maybe they don't own the copyright? 2nd seems unlikely. The result is that this wrestler has to become someone else in just a few weeks and perhaps wrestle in a totally different way as well? It took Batista quite some time and work to grow on us, to the point where most appreciate him. Would it been easier on him if he had been Leviathan? Perhaps we would have yelled out he was too gimmicky? (No idea how Lev. looked or how he worked)
I think for a large part the writers are too blame. Or no, make that overal management. They give a wrestler a character, stick him on tv and say "ok..draw heat!" seemingly not helping them much in developing the char and/or building them up beyond some well produced promos which make the fall only harder. Now that I think of it, didn't Foley sort of have the same problem when coming in, back in 95/96? Mason the Mauler I think it was? He however spoke up before he appeared, had some changes made and the rest is history. I guess these guys cannot speak up since they have only the WWE developmental deal..Foley could have stayed in ECW or whatever he wanted.
Originally posted by dMpI think it's weird that they never allowed someone to take their OVW char into WWE. Perhaps they don't wish to taint them or maybe they don't own the copyright? 2nd seems unlikely
I think maybe this is backwards -- this is assuming that they decide to bring up a particular wrestler and then decide what gimmick to give him.
I know nothing at all about the way things work, but I bet that a lot of the time, the writers come up with the gimmick first, and then they look at OVW for a wrestler who can play that role. The "character" they play in OVW is simply not a factor.
In this situation, I would have to lay blame at the feet of WWE and their writers, more than OVW. In OVW the guy was super-over, had a strong - and FUNNY - character, knew his moves, and not only could talk on the stick, but could get his character's emotions across in the ring.
He was also wrestling dark matches for WWE for - what? - six/seven months. Plenty of time for them to look at him and decide how to build a character around him. Or even rebuild a character they had in mind in order to better suit him.
Instead, they gave him a character, did nothing with it, and now they're running scared and decide to drop him back to OVW, destroying any momentum the character could build. It's now a lame duck. Too bad.
A job back plus health insurance guarantee from Ace would be a payoff of 13 years (to the month!) of the Union angle. Everyone else in The Union is gone now, yet Show never gave up on the dream of beating The Corporation. But at what cost victory, Show?...