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RYDER FAKIN
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#41 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.80
RE: Punk / Bryan. How great could it be if Bryan never sold the leg? Well, a little (holds thigh). Other than that he's kicking and running and jumping all over the place. With that leg.

Not to mention using the leg as leverage in various submission moves

It's like Punk wasted five minuets of his time

Very Indyish

FLEA



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#42 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.75
I only watched the match once and it was yesterday but I remember Bryan pausing to wince because of his leg like every time anything happened, which I found notable at the time since most people nowadays just skip it unless the overt story of the match is that they get crippled.
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#43 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.73
    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
      Originally posted by JustinShapiro
        Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
        *Note: I would be perfectly fine if their explanation is that Show somehow never thought of this. Like, if they just come out and have Cena (or, better yet, another face) say "Uh, you do realize Ace was going to get fired and you could have just waited five seconds and gotten rehired tomorrow, right?" and have Show flash a look of pained realization because he's honestly that dumb, completely failed to see that simple resolution and NOW he's gotta be a heel simply because he was that shortsighted and none of the faces or the crowd will respect him anyway...that would actually be kind of funny.


      This would be great. Laurinaitis and Show did have a Lost In Translation moment there, so maybe Johnny promised Show untold riches besides just his job. Like he'll be the first wrestler with health insurance.
    A job back plus health insurance guarantee from Ace would be a payoff of 13 years (to the month!) of the Union angle. Everyone else in The Union is gone now, yet Show never gave up on the dream of beating The Corporation. But at what cost victory, Show? At what cost?




So basically Big Show is Grandpa Simpson. So who would portray Mr. Burns and Bart?
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#44 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.03
    Originally posted by RYDER FAKIN
    RE: Punk / Bryan. How great could it be if Bryan never sold the leg? Well, a little (holds thigh). Other than that he's kicking and running and jumping all over the place. With that leg.

    Not to mention using the leg as leverage in various submission moves

    It's like Punk wasted five minuets of his time

    Very Indyish

    FLEA
Pardon me for not being great with terminology, but let me try: When I go cycling, and I have a cramp in my leg, but I'm really working hard, I find it's easy to ignore if I focus on my goal: mind or matter, perhaps? There's a medical term for that. Endorphins, maybe? I don't know.

My point is: If he's getting INTO it, and he's feeding off the crowd and working hard, it'd be easy to NOT feel the pain, but lord knows afterward, he'll be in a LOT of pain.

Long story short: it's all in your brain.

Can anyone explain it better?

(edited by Oliver on 21.5.12 1434)


...on a roll!
GodEatGod
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#45 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
    Originally posted by Oliver
    Punk/Bryan was INCREDIBLE - and I really want to see them compete in an one hour ironman match.

    Has there ever been a one hour triple threat ironman match? Put Ziggler in there with them, and I will be in heaven.


Ziggler has already issued an open challenge via twitter to anybody to have an Ironman match with him on the first 3 hour RAW. I sent him the same suggestion (I'm @SavageElbow, btw). I think the odds of WWE actually following through on it are pretty low, though (although, now that Christian's IC champ and a face, he and Ziggler could have a pretty awesome feud, given the opportunity).



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TheOldMan
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Since: 13.2.03
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#46 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.67
    Originally posted by Oliver
      Originally posted by RYDER FAKIN
      RE: Punk / Bryan. How great could it be if Bryan never sold the leg? Well, a little (holds thigh). Other than that he's kicking and running and jumping all over the place. With that leg.

      Not to mention using the leg as leverage in various submission moves

      It's like Punk wasted five minuets of his time

      Very Indyish

      FLEA
    Pardon me for not being great with terminology, but let me try: When I go cycling, and I have a cramp in my leg, but I'm really working hard, I find it's easy to ignore if I focus on my goal: mind or matter, perhaps? There's a medical term for that. Endorphins, maybe? I don't know.

    My point is: If he's getting INTO it, and he's feeding off the crowd and working hard, it'd be easy to NOT feel the pain, but lord knows afterward, he'll be in a LOT of pain.

    Long story short: it's all in your brain.

    Can anyone explain it better?

    (edited by Oliver on 21.5.12 1434)


Maybe not, but I have a thought or two to contribute. I don't know that you need a physiological justification for "selling", could be part of it is if you're a "WWE Only" fan, or a "WWE/TNA" fan, or someone who watches ROH and indy promotions as well.

For me, if Bryan or Punk look "indyish" for selling the effects of the match as it progresses, I'd say it makes them look like professional wrestlers. As opposed to the guy at top of the card who looks "main eventish" for not selling the arm - I'd say that made Cena look like a professional entertainer.

You can argue how good Bryan was at selling the knee, or Punk selling the ribs.. but at least they showed vulnerability, which makes the other guy look that much better for having 'hurt' you. I can see that a few years ago, Vince might have ordered Cena to be Superman, and never show weakness, but after being on top this long there's no way I'd believe Cena doesn't have the backstage stroke to freshen up the character if he wants to. (YMMV)

As for the show, Punk/Bryan was excellent, and left room for more if they want to extend the feud. And it was funny to hear the Dan-iel Bry-an (all deep voices) - C M Punk (not so deep voices) dueling chant dynamic. (And again with the head-fake AJ tease. Third time the charm?)

The 4-Way WHC tilt was nice, and leaves open more Orton/Sheamus possibilities. Interesting in that they mentioned the Jericho 'failed comeback' story at .com, he's done a good job of putting people over this run despite not getting anything out of it. Just don't keep coming back to lose-lose-lose like Foley did.

Overall it was a good card that suffered by placing a comedy match into the main event slot, but they did build that feud as the top draw - so there you go. I have to admit to a chuckle when Ace muttered "Five time, five time.." Cena looked like the biggest choke-artist in the world when Rock beat him. Now he's the biggest overconfident idiot in the world for not putting away Ace in 18 seconds. Will this be the story on Raw tonight? Hell no it won't!

Despite the entertainment from this show, I am seriously not looking forward to another month of Ace runnin' wild.



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#47 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.81

    Originally posted by everyone between Flea and I


I think you missed the point of his post. I might be wrong, but I would rather have him explain it to you.

Very indy.

I liked the card. The matches were better than expected, even the Cena-Johnnie match wasn't as offensive as it could have been. The placement of that match on the card was completely retarded. Does Cena have a say in when his matches go on? Or is Vince that sure that Cena always matters more than any title?



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#48 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.28
I bet the kids were SUPER into the Cena match, which just sucks for the rest of us.

I know I don't buy any WWE crap anymore, but they sure do.

R-Truth was right the first time, Little Jimmy sucks.
jerichofan717
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#49 Posted on
Why can't HHH just come out and fire Johnny Ace tonight like he was going to a few weeks ago? Or am I just reaching for logic to try and explain this stupid angle.
RYDER FAKIN
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#50 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.80
Here's my beef (and I wanted it to be an off the charts match)

Punk works over the leg like a fiend. The next transition was Punk in the corner getting kicked with a bad leg

Bryan did take time to "wince" and hold the leg, but would go back to doing spots like nothing was wrong

Just something that drove me nuts because I expected better

FLEA

(edited by RYDER FAKIN on 21.5.12 2027)


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#51 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.41
Watched TWO matches, and man.....I loved Bryan/Punk. ANd the nice treat? The commentating was really good.

Cole: "Bryan knows a hundred of these moves, he's a submission specialist". Cole told the story, and showed respect to both guys. Especially Bryan.

Booker: "This shows he's hurt, but not injured". Good catch by Booker, who made a couple of good comments.

The King, of course, was on his A-Game.

A great GREAT match.
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