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-(PRE-SHOW) Kane d. Zack Ryder with the chokeslam
-Christian wins the People Power battle royale by eliminating The Miz
-Air Truth d. The Vickie Family to retain the WWE Tag Team Championships when Kofi Kingston pinned Dolph Ziggler with Trouble In Paradise
-Layla d. "The Glamazon" Beth Phoenix to retain the WWE Divas Championship with the Lay Out
-Sheamus d. Chris Jericho, Randy Orton, and Alberto Del Rio in a Fatal 4-Way Match to retain the World Heavyweight Championship after Sheamus pinned Chris Jericho with the White Noise
-Brodus Clay d. The Miz with the Big Fat Funky Splash
-Christian d. Cody Rhodes to win the Intercontinental Championship with the Kill Switch
-CM Punk d. Daniel Bryan to retain the WWE Championship when Punk reverses the YES! Lock into a bridge
-Ryback d. Camacho with the running musclebuster
-John Laurinaitis d. John Cena when...(wait for it...you won't believe it)...Big Show returned and turned heel on Cena

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LIVE from an undisclosed location, Dick Cheney-style!

Jesus, would it KILL them to have a formal intro?

"PEOPLE POWER" BATTLE ROYALE
We join this in progress. Yeah, we're joining a match IN PROGRESS on a PPV! Because why bother to have entrances when 90% of these guys don't matter anyway? And apparently, that includes Christian! Yes, this is Christian's big return...getting shuffled into a battle royale without even so much as an entrance. And no, I can't even hope to keep track of who's in this thing. So let's fast-forward to the final four...

We're down to The Miz, Christian, David Otunga, and Tyson Kidd. I appreciate Kidd getting this brief babyface flurry, but he's just toast here and the crowd knows it. Kidd impresses with a springboard double clothesline. Miz tries to chuck Kidd, but he skins the cat...until Otunga boots him out. And we're down to three heels. That's just...lovely. The three heels circle around and Miz and Otunga double-team Christian to make him the de facto face. Crowd's dead, as you might imagine. Miz misses the strattling clothesline. Christian shoves out Otunga. Miz can't take advantage, as Christian breaks free. Both men tease finishers and Miz attempts to dump Christian off a Killswitch attempt. Christian hangs on the apron and dumps Miz to the apron and a headbutt will eliminate Miz.

WINNER: Christian - Who's bright idea was it to start the PPV with THIS? This is going to be a long night. Good thing I've got wings!

Your hosts are Michael Cole, Jerry Lawler, and Booker T. Announcers are all SO convinced that Laurinaitis is going down tonight, which naturally means he's going to win.

Here's a People Power vignette leading to a Cena/Laurinaitis video package.

At 16 minutes in, we FINALLY get our opening credits and opening pyro.

Here's Vickie Guerrero to break my eardrums. In a nice nod to her character, she gives a shout out to the Board of Directors and offers to replace Big Johnny if he loses tonight. Guess it's time for our opening tag title match.

"THE ALL-AMERICAN AMERICAN" JACK SWAGGER & DOLPH ZIGGLER v. R-TRUTH & KOFI KINGSTON: WWE TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
I come back from the bathroom in time to catch the Truth dancing legdrop, just in time for an armbar. Swagger moves Truth to the heel corner where Dolph tags in and takes over. Kofi tags in and hits a second-rope forearm. Heels take over on Kofi for a bit. Truth gets a tag, but his flurry doesn't last very long before the Vickie Family works him over. Kofi gets the hot tag and is a house of fire. Dolph eats the Buzzsaw Legdrop. BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! Trouble in Paradise misses and Dolph shoves out of an S.O.S. attempt. Swagger saves a pinfall attempt, but Kofi sends him out. Kofi comes back in and Dolph hits the Rocker Dropper for 2, before Truth breaks the pin. Truth wipes out Swagger with a pescado. Dolph tries a Stinger Splash in the corner and eats Trouble In Paradise in mid-air! Champs retain!

WINNERS: R-Truth & Kofi Kingston - Standard tag match. Good stuff. Dolph's in a league of his own at this point. He's just being wasted right now.

Backstage, Eve Torres is talking to "Big Pimpin'" Curt Hawkins and Accalimed Animator Tyler Reks. She wants them to confiscate anti-Laurinaitis signs from the crowd. Yeah, they're turning THAT into storyline fodder. That's...lovely. David Otunga offers legal counsel. Lawler complains about freedom of speech. And this entire segment was done without a HINT of irony or self-awareness!

"THE GLAMAZON" BETH PHOENIX v. LAYLA: DIVAS CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
We take a look back at Extreme Rules where Layla made her triumphant return and sent the Bellas to Future Endeavored Land.

Beth overpowers Layla to start. Layla quickly makes the comeback and hits a double jump crossbody for 2. Beth tries for a corner charge and eats elbow. We then shift into a botched turnbuckle powerbomb that looked painful! Beth then slams Layla's knee into the steel post and hangs her in the Tree of Woe off the post! Beth impresses the crowd with a military press, but Layla hits a desperation DDT to counter! The fight moves into the corner. Layla tries for a somersault neckbreaker, but Beth catches it and tries for the Glam Slam! Layla gets the Kelly Kelly victory roll, but Beth's seen that WAY too many times at this point and reverses into her own for 2! Layla suddenly hits the Lay Out out of nowhere for the pin!

WINNER: Layla - Good match between these two, though there were some rough patches. Crowd still doesn't care about Layla, but I'm hopeful that they'll catch on to her soon enough.

Backstage, the demoted Matt Striker talks to Randy Orton. We go back to last Friday where Sheamus beat Orton clean with a roll-up and Orton responded by wiping out Sheamus with an RKO, because he's a sore loser. Orton calls Sheamus' win a fluke and believes Sheamus would have done the same to him had the roles been reversed. Chris Jericho enters the picture and notes that Orton and Sheamus only served to tire themselves out, while Del Rio was too scared to face him. Orton promises an RKO for Jericho tonight.

ALBERTO DEL RIO v. CHRIS JERICHO v. "THE APEX PREDATOR" RANDY ORTON v. SHEAMUS: WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP FATAL 4-WAY MATCH
Sheamus gets a mixed reaction, which I'm sure someone should have thought about when slapping Randy Orton into this match, but what do I know?

The faces pair off and take it to the heels to start. With the heels on the outside, Sheamus and Orton square off before the heels attack from behind. The faces, again, dispose of the heels on the outside before circling each other in the ring again. Their face-off gets a...tepid reaction. Sheamus runs the ropes before Jericho lowbridges him and chucks him into the barricade. That allows the heels to double-team Orton, as the crowd chants "¡Si! ¡Si! ¡Si!" With Orton out of the way, Jericho and ADR focus on taking Sheamus out. Orton recovers and takes it to Jericho and ADR before the numbers take over. ADR tries to sneak in a pin, so Jericho breaks it up and gets in his face. Now the heels are squaring off and ADR nails Jericho with a tilt-a-whirl backbreaker. Orton disposes of ADR, but that leaves him open for a Jericho enziguiri, which gets 2. Orton and the heels tease the Tower of Doom spot, but Sheamus breaks it up. Irish Missile gets 2 on ADR, while Orton and Jericho take breathers on the outside. Sheamus falls for a Ricardo distraction, which allows ADR to hit the enziguiri for 2. Time to hit the armbar. Come on...do we really need a resthold in a 4-way match? Sheamus makes the babyface comeback and calls for the High Cross, but ADR counters with a kick to the knee and seated dropkick for 2. Um...there ARE two other guys in this match, right? Just as I say that, Jericho takes out Sheamus in mid-ten-count chest strikes with the springboard dropkick, sending Del Rio crashing into Ricardo! Orton comes back in and makes the babyface comeback against both Jericho and Sheamus! VIPER COIL...and Del Rio rolls through and clamps on the jujigatame in mid-coil! THAT was awesome! Jericho breaks up the hold. Jericho's Lionsault hits Del Rio's knees and Jericho stumbles into Orton's backbreaker for 2! Del Rio turns around and runs into the Irish Curse! Sheamus turns around nearly eats the RKO, but schoolboys Orton just like last Friday! It only gets 2 this time! Orton tosses out Sheamus and nails both ADR and Ricardo with stereo Hanging DDT's! RKO on Jericho is countered with the Codebreaker! Del Rio swoops in and clamps the swinging jujigatame on Jericho, but Jericho reverses it into the Walls of Jericho! Sheamus comes in, but misses the Brogue Kick and eats the Codebreaker! IT GETS 2!!! Jericho reverses the rolling fireman's carry into the Walls! Orton breaks up the Walls with the RKO, but Del Rio breaks up the pin...and eats the RKO himself! Sheamus wipes out Orton with the Brogue Kick, but Jericho quickly rolls up Sheamus for 2! Sheamus is able to grab Jericho and finish with the White Noise to retain the title!

WINNER: Sheamus - That match picked up FAST after a very slow start! Good stuff from all four guys!

Backstage, Cody Rhodes talks to Eve Torres and asks about John Laurinaitis. Cody says Christian will legitimize the U.S. title, while noting he, himself, would have embarrassed Christian tonight. Camera suddenly shifts over to reveal Christian, who didn't like what he heard. So Christian changes his mind and challenges Cody. Um...ladies and gentlemen, we have a face turn?

THE MIZ v. BRODUS CLAY (w/THE FUNKADACTYLS)
Why yes, Miz IS working twice tonight, why do you ask? Miz puts on an MJ hat and dances to his theme music! He pulls off MJ dance moves before he's interrupted by Brodus' entrance.

So yeah, here's a match you've already seen a couple of times, only this time IT COSTS MONEY! We've seen this match so many times that Cole's actually recycling insults. Brodus mixes things up this time around with a second-rope exploder before finishing with the Big Fat Funky Splash.

WINNER: Brodus Clay - Filler.

Do Not Try (Recapping) This At Home

We look at the crowd where Curt Hawkins and Tyler Reks are confiscating and tearing up signs. Again, Booker and Lawler talk about free speech without ANY HINT OF IRONY! On the other hand, if this means they're FINALLY going to do something meaningful with Hawkins and Reks, I'm all for it.

CODY RHODES v. CHRISTIAN: INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Cody opens with a promo talking about the Rhodes family history with the Carolinas. The name "Ric Flair" is sadly not mentioned.

Second round of food is here. Probably shouldn't have ordered during the Brodus/Miz match. I should note that this crowd is dead and I'm betting it might have something to do with people have their signs taken away. Christian makes the comeback until a top-rope crossbody misses and Cody rolls him up for 2. Cody shoves off a tornado DDT attempt and hits a top-rope moonsault press for 2. Cody mouths off, which allows Christian to finish with the Kill Switch for the pin and the title!

WINNER AND NEW CHAMPION: Christian - Well, whatever Cody did to deserve this last month, I'm sure he's sorry. On the upside, I'm always happy to see Christian get some respect.

Backstage, CM Punk talks to Josh Matthews. They look back at what happened on Friday. Punk notes that Vince McMahon would have never allowed Punk/Bryan to happen for the title and does a hell of a Vince impression. As Punk promises a 5-star classic...AJ enters the picture. Oh, I hope this isn't foreshadowing.

Soooo........

From @JoeyStyles
"@JRsBBQ: Keep an eye on all the strikes in this WWE Title bout. Then...submissions. Ah, Utopia." JR, you and I would have fun calling this.

I'm just saying.

DANIEL BRYAN v. CM PUNK: WWE CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Tonight, Bryan gives us six YES's! Justin Roberts gives us the championship intros, which gives the crowd a chance to air out some "YES!" chants and some "CM Punk" chants!

Both men feel each other out to start before locking up. Bryan shifts into a wrestling sequence, which Punk wins with an armdrag. Dueling CM Punk/Daniel Bryan chants! I love it! Punk grabs a side-headlock as the dueling chants continue. Lawler derides the YES phenomenon, saying we can hear YES whenever we want. Where was this diatribe when the WHAT phenomenon started? Punk shouts out YES! to get the YES! chants started as he works over Bryan. Bryan comes back with some YES! uppercuts and some YES! kicks! Bryan tries his backflip counter, but nearly walks into the GTS. Bryan's noticeably selling an injury and Punk's look indicated that he wasn't expecting that. Hmmm...that doesn't look good. The dueling chants pick up again as Bryan takes control, but misses a seated dropkick. Punk clamps on the surfboard...except he gives an emphatic STOMP! That's a cool spot! Punk hits an atomic kneebuster and suplexes Bryan out in a single motion. Bryan ducks a baseball slide attempt and shoves Punk into the barricade. Bryan hotshots Punk onto the barricade. Top-rope seated dropkick gets 2 for Bryan. Bryan clamps on the chinlock and adds some elbows for some extra gusto! Punk mixes it up too by trying to break up the chinlock with kicks and knees. A YES! snapmare and kick get 2 for Bryan. Now Bryan wants the surfboard, except HE mixes it up by grabbing the roof of Punk's mouth and pulling back! YEOW! Now Bryan shifts into the ultimate submission move -- the YES! SURFBOARD~! And then Bryan shifts into a Dragon Sleeper, before Punk elbows his way out! Bryan catches his breath for a moment before hitting a pair of running YAAAAAAH kneedrops! A third one misses and Punk hits a fisherman's suplex for 2! Dueling chants start up again as both men exchange blows. Bryan hits a snap suplex to win that exchange! Diving headbutt gets 2! Back to the chinlock. Both men try for crossbodies and we get a double KO spot. Punk makes the babyface comeback, but the corner charge eats boot. Punk catches Bryan coming in with a powerslam for 2. Bryan charges in and gets backdropped over the top rope. Punk follows with the suicide dive! Punk's springboard clothesline is caught with a dropkick for 2! Now Bryan opens up with YES! kicks, but Punk catches the last one and hits a dragon-screw legwhip into a FIGURE 4 (WOO!), which this North Carolina crowd appreciates greatly! Both men frantically exchange chops until Punk clamps the hold on good until Bryan reaches the ropes. Punk gets a drop toehold and gets La Magistral for 2! Punk tries for a second one, but Bryan shifts over and nails the roundhouse to the head for 2! We pause for a "THIS IS AWESOME!" chant! Bryan lowers his kneepad and offers some bare-knee strikes in the corner! Bryan tries to position Punk in the corner, but gets crotched. Punk's springboard clothesline gets 2! Both men exchange blows from their knees and Punk wins the exchange. Both men miss with roundhouses and Bryan counters the GTS with a crucifix for 2! Punk tries to roll up Bryan, but Bryan tries to reverse it into the YES! Lock! Punk counters THAT with a catapult and Bryan skins the cat...before walking into a roundhouse kick to the head! Bryan manages to get the foot on the ropes before the pin! Punk slams Bryan and hits the Savage Elbow, but Punk favors the ribs and can't cover! Bryan frantically showers Punk's ribs with knee strikes! Bryan stops to lead a YES! parade, but the corner dropkick misses! Punk hits the running knee, but the bulldog is reversed into the YES! Lock! Punk shifts his weight and gets the pin off a bridge...and starts tapping out RIGHT AFTER THE PINFALL!!!

WINNER: CM Punk - MORE! MORE! MORE! GIVE ME MORE OF THIS!!! DAMMIT, I LIKE WRESTLING!!!

Eve Torres and David Otunga walk by Teddy Long, who looks awfully happy. Otunga and Eve assure Teddy that he won't have his old job back, no matter what happens. But Teddy turns the tables on them, by pointing out that both of them could have Big Johnny's job. But then again, they can also be fired.

CAMACHO (w/HUNICO) v. RYBACK
We're adding more filler? Wow, they're going to keep that Cena/Laurinaitis match SHORT, aren't they? Even though she just HEARD Hunico say on the mic FIVE SECONDS BEFORE that Camacho was wrestling, Lilian Garcia STILL botches the intro and introduces Hunico, instead.

Camacho's offense gets nowhere, as expected. Hunico tries for a cheap shot, which allows Camacho to actually get some offense in. It's very short-lived, as Ryback destroys Hunico and kills Camacho dead with a spinebuster/powerbomb combo! Running musclebuster quickly ends Camacho's night.

WINNER: Ryback - SQUASH!

Post-match, Ryback KICKS OVER HUNICO'S BICYCLE! Now that's just unsportsmanlike!

Clash of the Champions Blu-Ray promo

We see the video package building up Cena/Laurinaitis a second time. It should be noted that that's two more video packages than Punk/Bryan got, by the way.

And so...we go from the instant classic Punk/Bryan to...sigh...the REAL main event...

JOHN LAURINAITIS v. JOHN CENA
If this was an old Scott Keith rant, I'm sure we'd be seeing the header "Alleged Main Event." I've had a couple of Shoot The Root rounds, so...let's get this trainwreck over with.

Big Johnny immediately tries to bail, so Cena catches him. Back in the ring, here's a clothesline. Cena pulls Johnny's shirt over his head and offers a Big Show chop. Cena tries for the AA...but changes his mind and does an extended airplane spin. Truly, we're witnessing a classic. Cena grabs the ring bell and rings it in Big Johnny's ears. Cena's just toying with him right now, which is going to make it all the more idiotic and all the more insulting when he loses. Cena grabs the Spanish announce headset and makes fun of Big Johnny. You know, for someone that claimed he was so opposed to The Rock, Cena's pulling out an awful lot of Rocky's comedy spots. The crowd is NOT enthralled by any of this, because they know what's coming. Johnny begs for his life by offering the Hand of Friendship, so Cena gives him The Usual. Now Cena grabs the mic. He says he's going to clamp on the STF and says he'll let go of the hold if Johnny can last for 10 seconds. The crowd counts along, so Cena lets go LIKE A FUCKING DOPE!!! Cena jokes around on the mic some more. This is so stupid. Crowd counts to 10 again and Cena AGAIN lets go! God, Cena's going to look like such a doofus when he loses. Cena grabs some water and takes a drink. He gets a second bottle for Johnny. He pours it over Johnny's head and then squirts a bottle down Johnny's pants. PLEASE end this, already! Cena grabs a fire extinguisher, just to draw this out further! Cena teases a fire extinguisher blast and I'm just WAITING for the interference, at this point. Cena extinguishes Big Johnny and sends him to the outside. Cena slams Johnny's head on the barricade and grabs a plastic trash can. He pours the garbage over Johnny's head. Johnny tries to escape again, but alas, this match must continue. Johnny actually hangs Cena's arm on the barricade and Cena suddenly remembers that he's supposed to be selling that injury. Johnny gingerly chucks Cena into the steel steps and grabs a chair. Johnny nails Cena repeatedly with the chair and gets 2. Cena grabs the chair and hits a chair-assisted legdrop. Big Johnny comes back with a Greco-Roman shot in the nuts and tries to escape again. And...um...Cena's not catching him. Cole notes that if it's a No Contest, Johnny keeps his job. Um...no, that would be a FORFEIT! Anyway, here's Big Show to drag Big Johnny back to the ring. He brings Johnny all the way back in. Johnny's surrounded and we're dragging this out again. Dammit, just turn Big Show heel and GET THIS OVER WITH!!! Show grabs Johnny by the throat and shoves him into an AA. And then Show hits Cena with the Mayweather Sucker Punch. OMG, BIG SHOW JUST TURNED HEEL!!! NOBODY COULD HAVE POSSIBLY SEEN THIS COMING!!! Except this guy...and this guy...oh, and this guy...and this guy, too! Johnny comes to V...E...R...Y...SLOWLY...and gets the pin.

WINNER: John Laurinaitis - What an absolute insult.

Play the replays. End credits. We're out. Fuck you, The E.

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When the Punk/Bryan match hits Blu-Ray (and it WILL), get it by any means necessary. The rest of this show can eat a fat one. (EDIT: That's not entirely fair, as the 4-way was damn good.) And, of course...

    Originally posted by Me in the Raw thread
    Hell, if Laurinaitis wins, period, I'm out. Don't tell me that Cena can conquer the $5M UFC ass-kicker and overcome everyone not named "The Rock" or "CM Punk", but can't beat a retired midcarder who happens to be the real-life VP of Talent Relations.


So yeah. Goodbye. SmackDown slot's open.

(edited by It's False on 20.5.12 2013)


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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.16
Does this mean:

John Lauranaitis > Lord Tensai > John Cena?



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Has Johnny Ace beaten the Japanese Train God?
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I knew the main event placement was made pretty obvious going in, but I really wish that they'd give CM Punk - or even Sheamus - the last spot on the card. Hell, CM Punk's finish was more crowd pleasing anyway.

People have already purchased the PPV at this point, there's no real reason to have Cena/Ace go last. Especially if they're going to end it like that.

You can still have the Big Show finish and get all that heat earlier in the show, and then let the CM Punk section of the WWE Universe have a satisfying ending to close things out.

But hey, great title match. Christian winning is pretty cool. Hopefully, they start doing something fun with Orton again. Wasn't all misses, but they really need to get their priorities straight. Business/CEO positions aren't more important than world championships to the people who pay to see fake competition.

(edited by SKLOKAZOID on 20.5.12 2021)
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The two world title matches were the only things making this ppv entertaining, though the women's match was pretty good for what it was. Punk and Bryan especially tore the goddamn house down, then set it on fire. I wanted a summer of Punk vs. Bryan, but now I demand this rivalry build up until next years Mania.

No comment on "The Main Event". Well except that Creative/Vince/Whatever must really think we are idiots.
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[passive agressive, semi-sarcastic side draining joke removed before it's even written]



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As much as the PPV main event didn't appeal to MY tastes of what the main event of a PPV SHOULD be, the crowd at Buffalo Wild Wings where I watched it ate it up. So, there is an audience for things like that.



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    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    I knew the main event placement was made pretty obvious going in, but I really wish that they'd give CM Punk - or even Sheamus - the last spot on the card. Hell, CM Punk's finish was more crowd pleasing anyway.

    People have already purchased the PPV at this point, there's no real reason to have Cena/Ace go last. Especially if they're going to end it like that.

    You can still have the Big Show finish and get all that heat earlier in the show, and then let the CM Punk section of the WWE Universe have a satisfying ending to close things out.

    But hey, great title match. Christian winning is pretty cool. Hopefully, they start doing something fun with Orton again. Wasn't all misses, but they really need to get their priorities straight. Business/CEO positions aren't more important than world championships to the people who pay to see fake competition.

    (edited by SKLOKAZOID on 20.5.12 2021)


I'm fairly certain that if WWE.com did a poll, the majority of the 'WWE Universe' would disagree with you and would rather see Cena/Laurinaitis than Punk/Bryan.



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All right, I'll shut up about that.

I will say that, even though I don't really like where it went on the card, sometimes the predictable ending is predictable because it's the next step in the story and I don't really disagree with the booking there. And yes, Dr, Unlikely's scenario of just letting Ace get fired makes more logical sense, but maybe Ace offered Show a better deal so it can make enough sense.

Unless they were planning on getting Johnny Ace off of TV, using another Lesnar date, or bringing back Batista, having Ace go over via Show interference was set up and to stray from that for a SWERVE~! (unless it was a really good swerve) would have been kinda lame. At least they're sticking to their plans somewhat.

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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.94
Well, yeah, they spent all of five segments across three weeks of television building up Punk/Bryan as opposed to Cena/Laurinaitis. I would imagine there's a significant portion of the WWE audience that considers important what WWE spends time telling them is.

But oh man, how good was Punk/Bryan, you guys. And we probably get to have it again! Awesome.
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Bryan/Punk was superb and they didn't even get to their climactic finisher reversal-type spots. They worked it as the first match of an extended program. That's really good news.

The fourway was awesome too. A lot of new twists on the big move cross-up spots. The tag title match was good. The women's title match was well above-par. Christian came back and got to shine. There was a lot of cool stuff on this show. Just turn it off before the end.

Mr. Sklokazoid is 100% right. Cena/Laurinaitis going last could've been justified if it provided a satisfying, happy ending to the match that had the most build-up. But doing the heat angle on top of the non-match made it a no-brainer to find a reason to Punk, the title, and the super match on last for once. Cena vs. Johnny & Show can go last next month, or however long they drag it out until the blowoff.

I have no idea what's so offensive about the Big Show finish itself though. Angles that are done in foreshadowed steps are significantly better, even if they're predictable.
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Also awesome: it looked as though Ace made Show the offer then and there, in the ring, to help him win in exchange for his job back. That's great booking.

If this is your idea of a bad show you should probably stop watching. Because, aside from the main event, this was pretty bloody great.
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Punk/Bryan was a better match than I expected. And I was expecting a great one. It was the best WWE match I have seen since maybe Taker/HBK at Mania 25. Everything about Bryan screamed "Main eventer" last night, from his jacket, to his new ring gear to his performance. Ending was shades of Steve Austin vs Bret Hart at Survivor Series 1996. And we all know how that rivalry turned out...

Fatal fourway was very good but it ended abruptly just as it was really starting to sizzle. Tag title and IC matches were good.

The main event was good for what it was - a total comedy match. I was laughing with them up until Cena did his STF bit. Most of my humour was gleaned in terms of it seeming like Big Johnny didn't have any idea that some of the spots were going to happen, like the extended airplane spin or the commentary bit where he made fun of Booker. The crowd enjoyed it which helped. And sometimes predictable is the right thing to do, as said.

Very good PPV



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The Corporate Big Sow
The Corporate Hawkins and Reks

I am not looking forward to Cena's promo on Raw
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The Corporate Big Sow
The Corporate Hawkins and Reks

I am not looking forward to Cena's promo on Raw
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.24
So, we get Big Show/Cena for the summer? God. Can Punk just does all a favor and throw a Pipe bomb tonight on how fucking stupid Cena/Laurantis is. Or how about how fucking stupid it is for Show to ally himself with Johnny when he was probably going to get his job back if Johnny lost anyway. Just to get the terrible taste that one Big Show punch is greater than anything Lesnar did. I have no idea how you justify that loss now. On the plus side, Christian turning face is probably needed and a Cody/Christian feud is far more interesting than a Show anything right now.

Sad to see Its False, go. His reports made my day.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.92
Big Show might own the record for polarity switches. I kinda hope he gets the Mark Henry push.

I lamented just Saturday that SmackDown needed a face turn (The W), and we get it AND a title switch in one show. Too bad it had zero publicity in the build to the PPV.



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.40
    Originally posted by It's False

      Originally posted by Me in the Raw thread
      Hell, if Laurinaitis wins, period, I'm out. Don't tell me that Cena can conquer the $5M UFC ass-kicker and overcome everyone not named "The Rock" or "CM Punk", but can't beat a retired midcarder who happens to be the real-life VP of Talent Relations.


    So yeah. Goodbye. SmackDown slot's open.



I feel that's a tad disingenuous, really. It's not like Cena was struggling against Laurinaitis the whole match. He ended up getting sucker-punched/KO'ed by a Big Show, whom he was lured into a false assumption that he was on his side.

From the tone of things, it sounded like you weren't enjoying yourself for a while, which is perfectly fine, but when you put it that way you make it seem like Laurinaitis did it all himself.

And, as for Brock, that was more of a point where Brock let his guard down again - probably because he got too cocky after having dominated Cena for most of the match.

I thought it was a very good show - and I had no problem with them starting with a cold open, I thought it was unique. And, honestly, do you really think that spending time doing introductions for all the members of the battle royal would have made it more exciting?

When you have Punk/Bryan, the Four way, Christian/Rhodes, and the tag team match all getting time to shine, you can't say it was a bad show.

Heck, even the women's match was awesome - even to the point where people were getting behind Layla and chanting for her.

And, given that the crowd was solidly entertained by the main event, you can't call that a bad showing. Wrestling wise, sure, but you know it would be like that - if the crowd is entertained, however, that's all that matters.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.96
I wrote on another forum while the main event was going on that the face locker room should come out and beatdown Cena when he inevitably loses the match.
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.16
    Originally posted by wannaberockstar

    From the tone of things, it sounded like you weren't enjoying yourself for a while, which is perfectly fine, but when you put it that way you make it seem like Laurinaitis did it all himself.


I can't speak for It's False, but it sounded to me also like he wasn't enjoying himself for a good long time, recapping Smackdown was a chore (which it is), and Lauranaitis winning against Cena was as good excuse as any to bounce. I can certainly understand that.

I think the burden of recapping definitely puts a strain on enjoyment. It sucks having to report, transcribe, and have to provide an opinion for everything. Even more sucky if the opinion tends to be, "I hate this."

I have a friend who was as unhappy with WWE as anyone I'd ever seen in 2006 and December to Dismember was his breaking point. He quit watching at that show and hasn't been back since. Personally, I'm as disinterested in the current product as I've ever been, and this is coming from attending one of the best WrestleManias ever and being super excited for Brock Lesnar. I was barely able to tolerate RAW this past month except for Heyman's promos.



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