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#41 Posted on
At the risk of defending the indefensible, on the subject of Roman Polanski.

1) The relationship happened after the brutal murder of his pregnant wife, Sharon Tate, by the disciples of Charlie Manson. Admiitedly some years after, but at the same time, he had left the US right after her murder and had only returned recently.
(Not offered as an excuse but as evidence of the defendant's mental state, My Lord.)

2) Roman Polanski has always maintained that the reason that he fled the States was because he had reached a plea bargain with the District Attorney, but fled the country after a producer friend of his overheard the judge in the case boasting that he was going to throw out the plea bargain that Roman Polanski and his lawyer had agreed to and screw the Hollywood bigshots. This has been recently confirmed to be true by other witnesses to the conversation.
(Offered as a mitigating factor in fleeing the jurisdiction.)

3) The victim has publicly forgiven Roman Polanski.
(Offered as mitigating factor for sentencing.)

4) There is no proof (that I know of) that Roman Polanski has done anything similar before or since.
(Offered as mitigating factor for sentencing.)



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#42 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.59
Thanks, I didn't know Marty went that far to try and get the award. It is sad to if you think about it. Here is one of the best directors in what I considered one of the best generation or three of directors and he has to do that to get that award. Its sad as a human being that he wants the award, but I understand if you have to watch Oppie and Zemekis get up there and win.

A Fan- No love for Marty.
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#43 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.54

    Yeah, I'm talking pre-1980s, before the Weinstein Rot set in and average became the pick of the day. Outside of Amadeus and Schindler's List, I can't think of a truly outstanding Best Picutre winner in the last twenty years. And that really makes me sad, ya know?


Since 'Best' is a relative term, I'm just satisfied if the Oscar goes to ONE of the good films every year.

Under that credo, virtually every movie in the last 20 years has deserved it (with the exceptions of Out of Africa, Dances With Wolves, Braveheart, Gladiator and A Beautiful Mind). Hell, you can say that something like Forrest Gump wasn't as good as, say, Pulp Fiction, but Gump was still a helluva movie.

I don't see what everyone is so worked up about. The crowd was just going "Mooooooooooooooore."

I know it's early, but does anyone know a website that has a preview of next year's Oscars?


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#44 Posted on

    Originally posted by Dagent913

      Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
      I loved American Beauty, but lately I seem to be alone in that sentiment.


    I really liked that movie too, but I realize what you're saying. All of a sudden everyone I know, including the people who recommended the hell out of it to me, hates that movie, and Kevin Spacey in particular. Not sure what happened.



Perhaps people got stupid. I'd call American Beauty absolutely spec-tac-u-lar, but I don't want to underrate it.

Gladitor sucked big balls. Actually, that's an understatement as well.



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#45 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.41

    Originally posted by A Fan
    Thanks, I didn't know Marty went that far to try and get the award. It is sad to if you think about it. Here is one of the best directors in what I considered one of the best generation or three of directors and he has to do that to get that award. Its sad as a human being that he wants the award, but I understand if you have to watch Oppie and Zemekis get up there and win.

    A Fan- No love for Marty.



If you're talking about the Robert Wise ad, it's not like Marty did that; it was all Miramax and Harvey.

Scorsese, while I'm sure would love to win an Oscar, also knows how many great directors (Hitchcock to name one) never won one either.



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#46 Posted on

    Originally posted by Big Bad

      Under that credo, virtually every movie in the last 20 years has deserved it (with the exceptions of Out of Africa, Dances With Wolves, Braveheart, Gladiator and A Beautiful Mind).


    Hey, don't say that about Braveheart.



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#47 Posted on

    Originally posted by cactuspete
    I'd love to see someone bring it up on Bill Maher's live HBO show.


They did last week. Most people, Bill included, agreed with most of us. They'll probably talk about it (and Michael Moore) this week - depending, of course, what happens in Iraq between now and Friday night.

(And Gladiator was a great 90 minute movie, stretched to three hours. The ending was fantastic and exciting and wonderful, but it was a chore getting there. The same holds true for "Star Wars - Episode II". [Except the Anakin/Padme love scenes were shorter and always featured Natalie Portman on screen, always a plus.] One wins Best Picture, one wins a bunch of Razzies and would cost anyone their "movie smark" card for even considering it to be a good film. No fucking logic.)



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#48 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.96
Well, look at Russell Crowe's work over the past period:

The Insider: Excellent film and great performance.
Gladiator: Pretty good film and good performance.
A Beautiful Mind: Good film and good performance.

He got the Oscar in 2000 for his performance in the Insider, and the films won Best Picture in 2000 and 2001 because of the director's cred.

The way the nominations system is set up, a deserving film should IN THEORY win every award. Not the best film, but a deserving film.



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#49 Posted on
"I disagree. Forrest Gump was great(sue me). But remember these pre-1983 winners

1965: The Sound of Music(not that good)
1946: The Best Years of Our Lives(3 hours of my life I'll never get back)
1942: Casablanca(like going to a Duke game: O-VER-RA-TED)"

You named three films from a fity-five year period. My point is proven, I feel.

Also, I really did enjoy American Beauty, but I didn't feel it was a blowaway film and one to truly stand the flow of time. It occured to me after writing that post that I probably should've included Unforgiven as one of the few truly great winners of the past two decades. it's not every day you get a superb picture trumpeting the death of a genre.

And sorry, but Chicago just didn't do it for me. The dialogue scenes felt rushed. Marshall's direction was flat without any spin put on it-and his addiction to stifling facial close-ups strangled the atmosphere of the film. Zellweger was AWFUL. And, as I said before, you got nothing that you wouldn't have gotten from going to the stage show. That's not a good stage-film transfer, in my opinion, and when a film is simply theatre relocated to celluloid, I feel that it doesn't deserve the praise when held up against fully cinematic efforts.





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#50 Posted on

    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard

      Originally posted by cactuspete
      I'd love to see someone bring it up on Bill Maher's live HBO show.


    They did last week. Most people, Bill included, agreed with most of us. They'll probably talk about it (and Michael Moore) this week - depending, of course, what happens in Iraq between now and Friday night.




Colin Quinn just ripped into Polsnki last night. Quinn's actually got a show on Comedy Central right after the Daily Show. It's like Bill Maher's old show, execpt with all comedians. The rhetoric is more balanced, but Quinn sucks as a host.

To my disappointment, Bill O'reiily didnt mention it on his show. He was too busy defending the war, and bashing protestors (including Moore). No spin zone, my ass. No wonder I never watch his show!

It seems like Jon Stewart is the only guy with a (somewhat) politically conscious show that can provide insight sans the partisan bullshit. I wish he could be more of a pompous windbag like Maher or O'reilly.




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