Match starts with Randy Orton and HHH. HHH acts cocky like Randy will automatically lay down for him. Randy does, but when HHH goes to pin him, he small packages HHH for the pin. Randy Orton eliminates HHH. HHH is pissed and starts to beat down Randy instead of leaving the ring. Randy, however, gets the upper hand and ends up laying a severe beating on HHH (all the other superstars are still in their chambers, so it's just them two). The beating ends when Randy takes a sledge hammer to HHH "injuring" him. The match continues and eventually Goldberg wins pinning Jericho, but Randy has already made his mark. HHH is on the shelf for a few months while his injury heals and Orton adds another "legend" to his list. He and Flair continue Evolution with Orton taking the lead role as "the present" and they bring in another guy to be "the future". Premise being that Orton becomes more cocky and arrogant than ever thinking he's the best in the biz, even though he's only been around for a year. When HHH comes back, he's a face and he feuds with Orton for a bit. This keeps HHH away from The Title for a short time when he comes back to feud with Orton and lets The Title go on out of the HHH shadow.
I've also heard the rumour that HHH will wind up as a face at some point down the road and feud with Orton, but it's way too soon to go down that road. Evolution is a cool concept and it's working for all concerned, so there's no sense in hotshotting the breakup angle. By the time it starts to lose a bit of momentum Batista will be back to add a somewhat new dimension to the group, and by the time that wears thin we might be ready to talk split and HHH/Orton feud. Also by then - I'm guessing shortly after WM - we'll have a good idea of how Orton is going to hold up in a big spot and how far he'll be able to go.
Goldberg is probably winning the Chamber, but I too will be cheering for Jericho. I'd like to see it come down to HHH vs. Goldberg vs. Jericho. Jericho looks like he's down and out and Goldberg beats HHH, leaving him apparently injured. But then, just when it looks like Goldberg has got the match, HHH gets one last cheap shot in that allows Jericho to steal it. Jericho gets great ammunition to play the annoying cocky heel champion, and there's extra heat on an eventual HHH/Goldberg singles match down the road when HHH is healthy.
Originally posted by XPacArmyI don't think Orton is over enough to become a good face. He is better off in Evolution for a while.
I should've specified that Orton would still be the heel. I'm sure he'd get a face pop initially for the pin and beatdown of HHH, but the next night on RAW, he could come out with Flair and say how great he is, how he beat another legend, how's he better than everybody, and basically show the crowd that he's still a heel and go from there. I see it as Orton getting his chance to shine and see if he can run with the ball, much like when Rocky was given control of The Nation. And when HHH comes back, he'll get the "guy just returned from an injury" pop and can be the face for awhile, at least for that one feud.
Can I ask this simple question about Randy Orton: What the hell has he done in the ring to make him even sniff a World Title shot? The RNN updates were funny, yes, but he's still an injury prone wrestler who hasn't faced anyone who is above mid card yet. A World Title push this early for him could make him this generations Tommy Rich (in the World Champ way before he was ready mode, not the other reason; well, Patterson is around so maybe the other reason as well) much easier than the next Ric Flair.
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Originally posted by redsoxnation A World Title push this early for him could make him this generations Tommy Rich (in the World Champ way before he was ready mode, not the other reason; well, Patterson is around so maybe the other reason as well) much easier than the next Ric Flair.
Tommy Rich is gay? Where have I been? Learn something every day.
Originally posted by redsoxnationCan I ask this simple question about Randy Orton: What the hell has he done in the ring to make him even sniff a World Title shot? The RNN updates were funny, yes, but he's still an injury prone wrestler who hasn't faced anyone who is above mid card yet.
A shoulder injury and a broken foot hardly make you injury prone. The guys young, charismatic and one of the most over heels on RAW outside of HHH, Y2J (both already in) and Kane (involved in angles unmasking). Besides his presence there apparently helps to tip the balance in favour of HHH and away from Goldberg.
The thing that particularly pleases me (and excuse me for going all marky here) is that theres a large number of side issues between individuals. HBK has cause to hate all of the heels, HHH has cause to hate all of the faces, Jericho has cause to hate pretty much everyone outside of Orton, and so on.
Originally posted by Notorious F.A.B.As much as I like the idea of Booker getting in there and winning the championship (I fall for that every time) I'd rather he put on a solid IC title bout with... um, someone.
Christian. I hope he has a really big feud with Christian. Can you imagine how cool it would be to see those 2 guys in the ring together? ;)
"A heel Rock is honestly the #1 reason why I became a wrestling fan again." Me too. The Rock was an amazing heel back in 98. If the WWF turned Rock last night, the crowd would have been 100% against him.