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The W - Ladies Only - Oops I Did it A-Kane - Raw 6/23
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Lap cheong

Since: 15.1.02
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Okay, you know the deal already. I already gave mine on the main board Raw Thread, but once again, Randy was soo yummy last night. Not only that, he was smooth reading that passage from Tietam Brown. Him and Flair making fun of Foley feeling a boob was really funny. HHH was rather minimal for my taste, but I'll let that go. Great props to Foley by everybody, even Vinnie Mac. I knew that lovin' from Vince wouldn't last long though, hehe. But if it means more Foley soon, then YAY! Still no women's matches on Raw. I know that they want to beef up HEAT, but no Victoria on Raw is inexcusable! I've seen better Raws coming out of MSG (like the night after King of the Ring 2001 when Edge bitched out Billy Gunn), but this is no slouch however. Take it away, ladies....

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Cherries > Peaches

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Y'know, sometimes it's like I'm not even watching the same show. I went back & rewatched big hunks of it to see if it was just me. I didn't hate the HHH/Kane match & subsequent unmasking payoff one little bit. Lots of the rest of the show was screwed up & weird, but that match was probably the least so of all! That was the one match that didn't have something strange or stupid or overtly clumsily kayfabe-breaking in it. There were several times that I thought to myself "We're watching a walk-through rather than the show." I pretty much decided that there was so much tizzy about being in MSG that it just screwed everybody up. Or something. Maybe "the boys" were pissed about this being the Kane & Mick Foley show. Maybe they were all hung over. Whatever it was, don't do it again, m'kay?

We know that Stacey is an idiot, but why was she still standing on the ring apron after Test had already manhandled her once? Just for the oportunity to hop off the apron in 4" heels & sprain her ankle? After his spinning back kick, Booker has to kill himself to keep from falling onto Test for a pin, 'cause he's remembered that Scotty hasn't had a chance in the ring yet. So in the middle of his "second wind" he suddenly feigns exhaustion & tags in Scott. Nowinski & Maven could have been fun -- but 30 seconds?? And the ref considering that his own falling to the mat counted as the first of the 3 count was too weird & confused everybody. I thought Bubba seemed a little Twilight Zone -- I was actually wondering if he'd been ill or something. Both times when Bubba was tagging out were weird -- he Flair Flopped once (that should have been a fall-forward into the tag in the corner), & 2-foot leaped for the second one. Kevin Dunn & the camera guys were doing their best to cover the pathetic punches by Bubba & Y2J -- very unusual for Bubba, & unusual recently for Chris. Arbitrarily sticking Hurricane with Sgt Slaughter? Hurricane successfully cross-bodies one of La Res, & Hurricane's the one that's out for the rest of the match? And the point of a 2 minute Sgt Slaughter squash was what? HBK & Flair were doing a walk-through for them for most of the match, up til the ref's audible "one minute" call -- astonishingly, things picked up drastically after that point. (I'll give them that HBK & especially Flair doing a walkthrough are better than some guys, but I've got expectations of them.) I don't especially hate Kev, but he was pretty awful in the little he did. Randy the Baby was the only one who really seemed to be putting in any energy, & he messed up a runin cue & tripped over Flair on a tag-out. Another set of entrances & Teddy Long hollerin', for the 26 second squash of Rodney Mack. What?

"One. Two. One minute. Three. ..."

OK, I've vented. I'm calmer now. There was some good stuff too!

The Foley presentation was very nice, & I liked how they handled Vince in it. I'm not wild about using sad-sounding music for Mick's video, but it was well put together. Mick/Flair/Orton/Vince backstage was great. ("I need some help over here. A janitor.") And having Ric 'n Randy mock the book was a nice put-down put-over.

Lance reading his prepared statement was priceless. "If you want bells & whistles, I suggest you attend the circus." (What did Jericho call Austin that got bleeped? A sanctimonious what?)

I liked the Kane flashbacks segments, with the staring into the mirror contemplatively. Good background, good build throughout the show. I hadn't seen any of that Kane/Undertaker segment in ages! Kane does excellent expressivity for a guy in a mask.

I was good with the HHH/Kane match. (Was it Angle/Benoit? No. Did we expect it to be? No.) I liked the way Kane sold the psychology, I liked the way they paced it, I liked the near finishes & the way HHH sold those. Kane was selling distraught, desperate, worn out & scared, & then the monster maybe-possibly having a chance. (I didn't like the commercial, but at least they hadn't gotten too far into it.)I'm sure it was completely coincidental that they happened to end up over the wall in the crowd in the laps of several young ladies. (How exactly do I apply for that job?? If Al Snow can campaign for stunt double for Val Venis' company ...) Kane also did the conflicted psychology of the unmasking well. And the payoff (aside from the one continuity problem) was just about right. I can't wait to see where we go now.

Oh, lest we forget, the beefcake moment of the night: HHH in the too-tight white polo shirt. That's drool-deserving.
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Well, I can't say that I'm really into manga, since all I've read is the stuff in Shonen Jump, but I'd like to read more. I was really getting into Naruto and One Piece, and to a lesser extent, Shaman King before my subscription got cut off. :\
- DarkRenegade, Manga fans? (2004)
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