The W
Views: 99379895
Main | FAQ | Search: Y! / G | Calendar | Color chart | Log in for more!
1.10.14 1127
The W - Current Events & Politics - One less mystery substance in the sand to worry about... Cali beaches ban smoking
This thread has 6 referrals leading to it
Register and log in to post!
Thread rated: 6.06
Pages: 1
(1465 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
User
Post (13 total)
Net Hack Slasher
Banger








Since: 6.1.02
From: Outer reaches of your mind

Since last post: 3567 days
Last activity: 1987 days
#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.48
Lighting Up at Beach Is Banned (news.yahoo.com)

Seeking to stamp out cigarette-butt litter and secondhand smoke's ill effects, Santa Monica has become the second city in California and the first in Los Angeles County to outlaw smoking at the beach.

If the Santa Monica City Council again approves the ordinance at its second reading April 13, the ban will take effect May 13, said Deputy City Atty. Adam Radinsky.

"It's one more piece of the puzzle for healthier communities," Mayor Richard Bloom said of the new ordinance, which passed at midnight Tuesday on a 4-2 vote. "It's really important for smokers to start focusing on what they're doing with their cigarette butts."

Santa Monica, which a year ago banned smoking at city parks, once again is in the vanguard of a movement backed by anti-tobacco and environmental groups. Last fall, Solana Beach, in northern San Diego County, led the way in banning smoking on the beach.

Other coastal communities are lining up to ban butts. Last week, San Clemente's council voted to direct the city attorney to draft an ordinance for the city's beach and pier, and on April 6, a Los Angeles City Council committee will review a proposal to prohibit smoking at the city's Venice, Cabrillo, Dockweiler and Will Rogers beaches.

If Los Angeles joins Santa Monica, "We will have a 13-mile stretch of California coastline with no smoking, and that will just send a tremendous message," said L.A. Councilman Jack Weiss, who told the Santa Monica City Council that passage of the ordinances would send "shock waves" through the state.

"What we've learned is that people are discarding their cigarette butts everywhere," Mayor Bloom said. "They litter our streets. When it rains, they go into the storm drains, and the storm drains empty directly into the bay. This is one of many reasons we have pollution in the bay."

Santa Monica already bans smoking at indoor restaurants. The newly passed ordinance would also cover outdoor dining areas on the pier... The ordinance also bans smoking at bus stops and other public waiting areas and sets $250 fines for violators of a new state law banning smoking within 20 feet of any door or window of a government building

*******

One more win for the Truth Commission that we see advertised on Smackdown every week LoL. Cigarette butts are pretty annoying walking the sands, but I'd never imagine them banning smoking in such an open area like a beach. As a non-smoker it's no big deal for me just found it interesting that they are banning it outdoor locations.




smark/net attack wienerville advisory stays at BLUE alert - Guarded (With Benoit & Eddie being World & WWE champions you'd expect the alert to be Green but couldn't do it due to Trish heel turn & brands re-draft)- 3/16

Honors for Smartest thing ever written, 5th Horseman "When Victoria, Trish, Molly, and Lilian were in the ring.. I commented to my friends that all of the 4 ladies in the ring were hotter than the all 4 that are fighting over who is the hottest in the WWE"
Promote this thread!
DrDirt
Banger








Since: 8.10.03
From: flyover country

Since last post: 15 days
Last activity: 5 hours
#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.86
If they wont police their butts, I think the answer would be a designated area with ashtrays. Not a good solution but hey. Plus going to the beach and lighting up seems contradictory to me.



Perception is reality
ScottLadd
Chipolata








Since: 23.1.04
From: Douglas, Isle Of Man

Since last post: 3589 days
Last activity: 3478 days
AIM:  
#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.00
I'm all for it. Ban smoking anywhere but your own home or car is my call. It is terrible around here near the IoM ferry sometime, so in Calif. it must be bad, but I never had a major problem in walking in fag butts on the beach to be honestly.

But then again I'm I a non-smoker as well but passive smoking annoys me great deal.
Whitebacon
Boudin blanc








Since: 12.1.02
From: Fresno, CA

Since last post: 45 days
Last activity: 16 hours
AIM:  
ICQ:  
#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.11
    Originally posted by ScottLadd
    I never had a major problem in walking in fag butts on the beach to be honestly.


...Man...if those handy flags weren't up there...

Anyway...I'm all for it. Smokings banned in most public places to begin with as it is out here. I'm curious to see what smokers will have to say about this. They tend to be vocal about these things, but, I think this is less about smoking and more about actually trying to keep the beaches (and in turn the oceans) a bit cleaner.





In the context of baseball, the use of drugs hurts only the player. In the context of baseball, the use of alcohol hurts only the player. In the context of baseball, womanizing hurts whom? Maybe the wife of the player? In the context of baseball, felonies are crimes against society, not against baseball. In the context of baseball, gambling is the only crime against baseball.

Gambling, in the context of baseball, is a capital offense and Rose has richly earned-- hell, he agreed to-- his death sentence. Let him hang.

Bob Kohm, co-owner of Rotojunkies.com (rotojunkies.com) , and a large market kind of guy.
Madame Manga
Kolbasz








Since: 16.1.02
From: Silicon Valley

Since last post: 13 days
Last activity: 10 hours
#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.89
One additional reason for this law that wasn't mentioned--barefoot kids stepping on hot butts. I'm always paranoid about letting my boys take off their shoes at the beach because of all the junk in the sand; it would be nice to get those places just a little cleaner.

MM
eviljonhunt81
Pepperoni








Since: 6.1.02
From: not Japan

Since last post: 2965 days
Last activity: 2962 days
#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.69
Of the beaches I've been to, it seems that other trash from food is more fo a problem, but I imagine we wont be seeing a ban on food at the beach anytime soon.

And my mom wonders why I don't want to go to California . . .

(edited by eviljonhunt81 on 25.3.04 1317)


Weekly Visitor

Jersey Is Dead - New Stuff! Unemployment is your friend!

Japanese Toys on Ebay
Nag
Landjager








Since: 10.1.03
From: Enter your city here

Since last post: 2155 days
Last activity: 210 days
Y!:
#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.54
"...Man...if those handy flags weren't up there..."

I haven't burst out laughing like that in long time...Thanks!

But this type of shit irritates the hell out of me, just more nanny state regulations disguised as something else. Why don't they just come out and ban smoking outright, better yet, lock us sinners up in some prison. Wonder if Santa Monica bans glass bottles as well? Doubt it. Next is Booze, then red meat, and of course woman's razors, these sissy mary people won't be happy til we are all eating tofu out of a hemp sack. Well I need to light one up, so maybe I won't be here when those laws drift out east.

Whitebacon
Boudin blanc








Since: 12.1.02
From: Fresno, CA

Since last post: 45 days
Last activity: 16 hours
AIM:  
ICQ:  
#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.11
Actually, I think glass bottles are probably banned on most beaches out here...safety issue.





In the context of baseball, the use of drugs hurts only the player. In the context of baseball, the use of alcohol hurts only the player. In the context of baseball, womanizing hurts whom? Maybe the wife of the player? In the context of baseball, felonies are crimes against society, not against baseball. In the context of baseball, gambling is the only crime against baseball.

Gambling, in the context of baseball, is a capital offense and Rose has richly earned-- hell, he agreed to-- his death sentence. Let him hang.

Bob Kohm, co-owner of Rotojunkies.com (rotojunkies.com) , and a large market kind of guy.
RYDER FAKIN
Six Degrees of Me








Since: 21.2.02
From: ORLANDO

Since last post: 20 days
Last activity: 20 days
AIM:  
#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.53
Eh...Ive given up fighting any kind of politico-based ordinance, as it really boils down to nothing more than a feel good issue for people who have nothing better to do with their time than to take away something thats still 100% legal. People in California happy about having smoke free environments should probably take 2 seconds away from their sunbathing and look at how blue their skies are (oops)...and that aint second hand smoke keeping a nice haze over the large metropolitan areas.

Unfortunately, smokers usually go out of their way to cause their own doom. There is no excuse for tossing a finished cigarette anywhere but an ashtray (or - when we go to the beach, in whoevers beer can / bottle is empty first.) But, as far as in a public place like a beach, thats called LITTERING and there are already rules in place for that type of behavior. All this appears to be is another shovel of dirt on an issue thats dead dead dead.

The anti-smoking crowd has already won, as it appears to be more socially acceptable to urinate on public property than it is to smoke there. WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN?!?!?! Theyre off getting abortions while waiting for their Prozac prescriptions to be filled. Well, not all of them, but not all smokers are Satan either. It just feels that way sometimes...

FLEA






Demonstrations are a drag. Besides, we're much too high...

FLEA - 1ryderfakin.com - IWC 100! And The Wrestling Dead Pool!!
redsoxnation
Scrapple








Since: 24.7.02

Since last post: 457 days
Last activity: 457 days
#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.60
    Originally posted by Nag
    "...Man...if those handy flags weren't up there..."

    I haven't burst out laughing like that in long time...Thanks!

    But this type of shit irritates the hell out of me, just more nanny state regulations disguised as something else. Why don't they just come out and ban smoking outright, better yet, lock us sinners up in some prison. Wonder if Santa Monica bans glass bottles as well? Doubt it. Next is Booze, then red meat, and of course woman's razors, these sissy mary people won't be happy til we are all eating tofu out of a hemp sack. Well I need to light one up, so maybe I won't be here when those laws drift out east.









Simple reason why they will never ban smoking outright: Cigarette taxes are one of the key components of most states budgets. The government bitches about smoking all the time, yet they are overly-dependant upon the revenues to survive. So, they'll cry about how it hurts children etc. and that's why they need to raise the cigarette taxes (to protect the impressionable children), all the while the main reason they raise them is because most state legislatures are run by lobotomized baboons who don't know how not to spend the citizens money. And, I'm a non-smoker who is bitching about this, so its not like I have any personal motives.

Edit: I'd like to apologize for my comparison of state legislators to lobotomized baboons. Lobotomized baboons don't deserve to be slandered in such a manner.

(edited by redsoxnation on 25.3.04 1552)


Why is TVLand stealing my ideas from DEAN's Workrate Report's? They had to be stealing, as I thought I had the only demented mind that could put Bea Arthur and Abe Vigoda in a sex scene.
CRZ
Big Brother
Administrator








Since: 9.12.01
From: ミネアポリス

Since last post: 11 hours
Last activity: 19 min.
AIM:  
ICQ:  
Y!:
#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.65
Santa Monica is not equal to the entire state of California.



CRZ
The Thrill
Banger








Since: 16.4.02
From: Green Bay, WI

Since last post: 167 days
Last activity: 13 days
#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.13
Does this mean The Ugly One's lungs won't fill up with sand AND cigarrette (misspelling on purpose) butts any more? (homestarrunner.com)

(edited by The Thrill on 26.3.04 0750)


Star wipe, and...we're out.
Thrillin' ain't easy.



THE THRILL
ACW-NWA Wisconsin
Home Video Technical Director...&
A2NWO 4 Life!
(Click the big G or here to hear the Packers Fight Song in RealAudio...or try .AU, .WAV or .MIDI!)
Whitebacon
Boudin blanc








Since: 12.1.02
From: Fresno, CA

Since last post: 45 days
Last activity: 16 hours
AIM:  
ICQ:  
#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.11
Is that link supposed to link back to the W main page?





In the context of baseball, the use of drugs hurts only the player. In the context of baseball, the use of alcohol hurts only the player. In the context of baseball, womanizing hurts whom? Maybe the wife of the player? In the context of baseball, felonies are crimes against society, not against baseball. In the context of baseball, gambling is the only crime against baseball.

Gambling, in the context of baseball, is a capital offense and Rose has richly earned-- hell, he agreed to-- his death sentence. Let him hang.

Bob Kohm, co-owner of Rotojunkies.com (rotojunkies.com) , and a large market kind of guy.
Thread rated: 6.06
Pages: 1
Thread ahead: Fighter Crashes in Raleigh-Durham
Next thread: Canada finally gets to Colonialism
Previous thread: HAwks and Doves?
(1465 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
No, Shellagh Fraser (I think that's her name) died about six years ago. When I saw Phil Brown at Celebration II in 2002, he looked pretty bad then. I know it sounds horrible, but I was sort of surprised he lasted this long.
- Teapot, "Uncle Owen" passes away (2006)
The W - Current Events & Politics - One less mystery substance in the sand to worry about... Cali beaches ban smokingRegister and log in to post!

The W™ message board

ZimBoard
©2001-2014 Brothers Zim

This old hunk of junk rendered your page in 0.122 seconds.