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The excitement that is WCW is headed into overdrive. Did you know there’s a pay-per-view event tomorrow? Despite the buy-rate problems WCW was encountering around this time (the impending Superbrawl drew a 0.63), the one area I’ll give them credit for is they knew how to use their TV shows to drive the one people would buy. The problem was in the execution; specifically, Hulk Hogan being so ridiculously stale at this stage, that even a fresh faced opponent like The Giant wasn’t sparking anyone’s interest because they’d already been at each other’s throats for 6 months to this point, including the infamous Monster Truck match that will probably require an entire entry on its own to explore.
 
But that’s tomorrow. And then Nitro. And Prime. Holy crap that’s a busy 3-days! Though I admit, if I had copies of Worldwide and Pro, I’d probably be recapping those, because like Bruce Brannigan, I have a fever. And the only prescription ... is more WCW.
 
I always ignore the recap segments but I hope it’s the only Hulk Hogan we wind up seeing. Though, I’m not holding my breath the day before a PPV.
 
TONY SCHIAVONE and DUSTY RHODES wonder if Hogan’s going to be able to wrestle inside a cage, what with all the horrific injuries he’s suffered over the last 2 weeks. I keep telling my wife that nothing good can come from women’s shoes.
 
After a quick recap of the usual shenanigans from Luger on Nitro, we find that “MEAN” GENE OKERLUND has located our tag-team champs, STING and LEX LUGER. Sting has taken the time to go an entire week, AND still take the time to paint his face before confronting Luger about his behavior. Luger says it’s all instinct, apologizes for his behavior, re-iterates their friendship and promises it won’t happen again. Sting tells him to stop the cheating, or he’s going to hand the belts back AND end their friendship. Not the friendship – dear GOD not the friendship! Sting knows how to cut right to the heart. Luger promises he’s a friend for life, and Gene now stirs it up by interjecting “I’ve heard this all before, with all due respect Mr. Luger”. Sting leaves completely pissed. I love Gene with all of my being for being such a creep.
 
THE BARRIO BROTHERS vs. STING and LEX LUGER (in a non-title match)
 
The champs do NOT enter together, because Sting is moody. I am pretty sure his hair has changed to a deeper tint of brown since Monday. Watching Sting degenerate into a moodier and grouchier Sting is fantastic, and you almost start to think WCW knew what the end-goal here was going to be. Right down to Nick Patrick and Bret Hart. The bell never rings to start this one; so maybe this is less a non-title match than it is a non-match? Champs clear the ring of Barrios with duelling clotheslines. Luger hits a double axehandle to the arm of Fidel while Sting holds him hostage. Despite the fact they’re supposed to be Cuban patriots, I wish WCW had forced Fidel Sierra to go by the name Mario for the sheer comedy of having a Mario Barrio Brother. He may have even earned the occasional win on WCW Pro with a name like that. Sting finishes Fidel with the Scorpion Deathlock at 3:51, though again, no bell. *1/2
 
In more exciting news, “MEAN” GENE OKERLUND has found newcomer, DAVID “FIT” FINLAY. Finlay says that he’s been chasing Regal all over the World for years, so he’s here to kill him, and then take over the company. He ugly.
 
FIT FINLAY (with mullet) vs. MIKE MARCELLO
 
Finlay pounds on Marcello with some pretty violent punches, and slams the young man with a little oomph. A knee to the back of Marcello’s head drives him face first to the mat. Finlay applies a cross armbreaker, but Marcello won’t tap, which probably isn’t a very good idea. Finlay decides to powerbomb him, spear him, kick him in the face, knock him into next week with a Shining Wizard, and finish with a JUMPING Tombstone at 3:33. Very entertaining – Finlay was not gentle in his early WCW days. And speaking of entertaining, Dusty Rhodes calls him the “Belfast Brotha”. **1/2
 
THE GIANT (with Jimmy Hart) vs. PEPE PRADO and LARRY SANTO
 
Santo has a very Howdy Doody Backlund thing going on. Giant throws Prado at  Santo like he’s Donkey Kong throwing a barrel. A chokeslam is delivered to each to end this at 1:05. Which side had the handicap? DUD
 
“MEAN” GENE OKERLUND is quick to grab a word with Giant and Hart. They play up Giant’s strengths; specifically, the fact he’s stronger, faster, and meaner. Giant recites “Jack and the Beanstalk” which doesn’t seem wise because the Giant jobbed to Jack in that story. You think he’d find source material a little more on his side, like Saturday Night’s Main Event prior to Wrestlemania IV.
 
JOHNNY B BADD (with Kimberly, Badd blaster, and Frisbees) vs. BULL PAYNE (in a non-title match)
 
I remember this guy from the Spring Breakout Nitro in 1999 – and he definitely dropped a lot of weight between here and then. He’s got more chunk in his trunk than your average bear. The fans are rabid for Johnny – but Kimberly’s bounciness may be playing a pretty big factor in their reaction. I wish I was more enthused for this, but I’m pretty sure he wrestles on every jobber show I’ve recapped over the last month, and wrestled the same match every time. Badd Mood finishes at 2:10. 1/2*
 
Of course, we now take a little time with “MEAN” GENE OKERLUND to hype tomorrow’s PPV match between Badd and DDP. Gene springs the surprise on Johnny that only $6.6 million is on the line tomorrow night as opposed to $13 million – and Johnny’s irate by this news because apparently he doesn’t watch WCW programming. Kimberly admits she’s not looking forward to this match, even though she’s totally got Johnny’s back. This would seem to be a pretty easy finish to book, but ...
 
VK WALLSTREET vs. SGT. CRAIG PITTMAN (with Teddy Long)
 
Now; as sick as I am with Johnny B Badd, we have the case of VK Wallstreet, who is not only on TV just as frequently, but does so with absolutely no direction. He squashes jobbers week after week, and what’s the end game? No pay-per-view matches, no obvious feuds, but seems to be continually pushed as a favor to Hogan. However – there is a god. After a boring match that feels like an hour, Pittman actually reverses the abdominal stretch into an Oklahoma roll, and gets the shocking upset at 4:31! Immediately, BIG “BUBBER” BUBBA ROGERS hits the ring and chokes Pittman out with electrical tape. Hilariously, JOEY MAGGS thinks he can save the day, and gets beaten like Daniel Puder in a Royal Rumble. Match was a DUD.
 
THE ROAD WARRIORS have been paired up with “MEAN” GENE OKERLUND, where they discuss the fact they are getting a tag-team title rematch at Superbrawl, against the winners of the Sting/Luger vs. Harlem Heat match. Hawk cracks me up by eyeballing Gene and yelling “THAT BOWTIE’S CUTER THAN THE DICKENS.” Gene: “Nice Spikes, too.” Hawk: “THANKS!” Between the awkward flirting, they sell the PPV. I don’t think there’s a single match on the card I’d pay money to see, even in 1996.
 
After a lengthy recap of Woman’s turn on Monday, WOMAN and RIC FLAIR are now with Gene. Flair gets down on his knees in front of Woman to welcome her back to WCW. Flair is gloating at his glorious return to the top of the wrestling world, reminding us he’s pinned Hogan twice in the last couple of weeks. He promises that Savage will bleed, sweat, and pay the price en route to him regaining the World Title. There are few things in wrestling quite as enjoyable as Ric Flair in all his cocky glory.
 
We get the WCW Race-Car update; and a rare appearance from Dr. Harvey Schiller. I wish I had more to add, but I don’t care, and neither do you.
 
THE NASTY BOYS vs. RED TYLER and MANNY FERNANDEZ
 
We start with your usual hard hitting, messy type of match you’d expect from the Nastys, before Tyler and Saggs pair off. Tyler is walked right into Pity City. Fernandez comes in, and fares no better, eating an avalanche from Knobbs. Knobbs displays some actual wrestling ability by hitting a drop toe hold, which has Dusty excited. “See – I told ya he could do it!” Powerbomb is followed by a Knobbs splash off the top for the win at 2:16. Knobbs screams about Public Enemy. Righto. ½*
 
“MEAN” GENE OKERLUND gets a word with our World Champion RANDY SAVAGE and ELIZABETH who will be having a return match with Chris Benoit later tonight. Savage addresses Hogan’s health (he’s fine sez Savage), and tomorrow night’s cage match (rambling incoherency). And thus we move on.
 
ARN ANDERSON and BRIAN PILLMAN vs. JOEY MAGGS and COBRA (with Teddy Long)
 
Cobra is wearing long green tights with a completely apropos cobra. They are not unlike Sting’s tights, not that that observation is relevant in any way. In fact, also on this tangent, he’s kind of built like Sting, though with a little more deer antler spray. Will Teddy Long’s stable of losers go 2-for-2 in the upsets tonight? Maggs, the world’s tallest midget, tries his damnedest, but an Anderson DDT finishes him at 2:25. Tony bemoans “the Horsemen again”, as though he expected some other result. *
 
The usual post-match interview happens with “MEAN” GENE OKERLUND. Pillman flashes the fingers, and a grin. Gene explains the rules of an “I Respect” match; that it’s built the same way as a strap match, but instead of touching the four corners, you beat your opponent until they say they respect you. This would be Pillman’s last appearance on WCW television.
 
CHRIS BENOIT vs. RANDY SAVAGE (for the WCW World Heavyweight Title)
 
Savage accosts Benoit from behind during his entrance, and throws him into the ring. A top rope axehandle sends Benoit sprawling to the floor, and Savage doesn’t let up. Back in, Benoit drops Savage with a clothesline, and we take a break.
 
Upon return, Benoit is just laying in the chops as hard as you can imagine. A headbutt drops the champ, and Savage can’t keep pace in a punch trade-off. Benoit dumps Savage to the outside, but Savage pulls him with him. Benoit sends Savage face first to the guardrail, and rolls him back in. Savage gives a burst of energy, but winds up whipped in the corner. Benoit snaps off a sweet spinebuster, and then puts on the sickest version of the Liontamer I’ve ever seen! A snap suplex gives Benoit enough momentum that he feels comfortable flashing the 4; and drops a leg on the champ. A backbreaker gets 2. Tony suddenly feels the urge to announce the producers have almost confirmed that they have almost obtained contact with Hulk Hogan; as though he’s an alien aboard a far away starship (hmmmm) ... Meanwhile, Benoit misses the flying headbutt, which gives Savage enough time to rally. A small package gets 2. Benoit gets up first, but Savage rakes the eyes. Savage slams Benoit, and heads up to finish. ARN ANDERSON runs in, so Savage dives at him instead. RIC FLAIR isn’t far behind, and we have a DQ at 10:46. All 3 Horsemen beat on Flair, while the announcers wonder where on earth Pillman is. **1/2
 
Meanwhile, as the beating goes on, HULK HOGAN has been found in Venice Beach. His eye is covered; but it hasn’t stopped him. Hogan completely ignores the beating Savage is taking despite Tony referencing it, and instead can’t wait but talk about the big stinky wart infested Giant. Then he promises he’s always got Savage’s back. Except tonight, of course.
 
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.91
    Originally posted by cfgb
    The excitement that is WCW is headed into overdrive. Did you know there’s a pay-per-view event tomorrow? Despite the buy-rate problems WCW was encountering around this time (the impending Superbrawl drew a 0.63)


Can we have a Superbrawl prediction thread? I feel we need to try to predict the results of such a historic card.




    In more exciting news, “MEAN” GENE OKERLUND has found newcomer, DAVID “FIT” FINLAY. Finlay says that he’s been chasing Regal all over the World for years, so he’s here to kill him, and then take over the company.


I'm not sure if WCW should be going with this Fit Finlay invasion angle. Promotions never book invaders to look strong, so he'll cut some good promos and then job to the roster. Plus, he's not even on a motorcycle or wearing a mask. Invasion angles need both of them.



    VK WALLSTREET vs. SGT. CRAIG PITTMAN (with Teddy Long)
     
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    Immediately, BIG “BUBBER” BUBBA ROGERS hits the ring and chokes Pittman out with electrical tape. Hilariously, JOEY MAGGS thinks he can save the day, and gets beaten like Daniel Puder in a Royal Rumble. Match was a DUD.


Teddy was looking so frustrated. During the Wallstreet-Rogers/Pittman-Maggs brawl he seemed to be praying that the senior officials would restart the bout as a tag team match.



I'm not sure if I'm aware of the entire card, but here's my guess as to how the matches will go down. Let me know if I missed any bouts, or mentioned an incorrect combination of competitors.


WCW World Heavyweight Title Match: Cage Match:
Ric Flair v. Randy Savage (c)
If Flair can't beat Savage outside the cage, I can't imagine Flair winning inside of one.
Winner: Randy Savage

The Giant v. Hulk Hogan
No other result is possible. Hulk Hogan hulks up, and overcomes the odds once again.
Winner: Hulk Hogan

$13 Million Dollars$6.6 Million Dollars versus the WCW Television Title:
Diamond Dallas Page v. Johnny B. Badd (c)
I can't imagine DDP losing his millions. Badd loses the title, but keeps the girl, much to Page's chagrin.

WCW Tag Team Titles:
The Road Warriors (Hawk and Animal) v. Lex Luger and Sting (c)
Luger and Sting are on a fun roll. I want to see this keep going. There will probably be a moment where its unclear if Luger cheated or not to keep the drama going.
Winners: Lex Luger and Sting

Respect Match:
Kevin Sullivan v. Brian Pillman
Pillman isn't going to lose to Sullivan. Pillman is on a whole other level. Sullivan will do better than expected (probably Pillman was missing at the end of Saturday Night this week due to being secretly beatdown by the dungeon), but Pillman will fight through that to get the win. Possibly due to a run in by Hogan and Savage that clears out the Dungeon of Doom.
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Watch out, Regal, Finlay's gonna KILL YA

Benoit now had two reasonably good chances of winning the World Heavyweight Title from Randy Savage, both of which ended because the Horsemen came in and caused a disqualification. If I were Benoit, I'd be pretty pissed right now. "Do you WANT me to win the title, or not?!"

Which, of course, they don't, because no Horseman other than Flair is allowed to be the world champion.



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Am I correct with thinking that nobody expected Pillman to leave after this PPV? I could be way off, but his contract ended, WCW was a little sick of him but in the end him signing with the WWE was a surprise. I'm going to miss him in these recaps. He will always be my biggest "what if" in wrestling.

The biggest problem with Finlay at the start was his look was terrible. I would appreciate it more today, but I just couldn't take the guy seriously at the time. Was there a mustache to go with the brown mullet or did I make that up?



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The whole Pillman thing was a worked shoot that only he, Sullivan and Bischoff were in on. The whole I respect you booker man stuff and Pillman's appearances in ECW were all part of it. Pillman's last appearance in WCW was actually at Uncensored where he attacked Sulivan. Pillman came up with an idea to make the whole thing to be even more realistic is if Bischoff gave Pillman his release and Pillman would eventually come back, but Pillman went to Vince and he got himself more money and a guaranteed deal which wasn't the norm back then not long after Pillman got in a car accident and the rest is history.

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The bigger picture is Brian Pillman desperately wanted to be a main event guy, and he figured out that going somewhere else (ECW) and being treated like a main eventer would be his best chance at finally being treated like one in WCW.

I think history has proven him generally correct - a few months later, a couple of midcard guys who were about on Pillman's level will come back to WCW and be treated like top guys because another company had done so. They didn't even need to be successful top guys - they weren't in that other promotion - but just that they were designated as such. But I don't want to spoil things...

Meltzer, who was obviously close to Pillman, has always said that Pillman really wanted to make it in WCW. There were a lot of management people who came thru there who didn't think he was really that good and tried to run him off, and I'm sure he would've taken a lot of pride in proving them wrong.

My hunch is Pillman's goals changed a lot after the car accident - he had to know it would be a long time, if ever, for him to be physically okay enough to be a top guy, so everything else had to be put aside and he had to just take the better deal. The money was good but the guarantee was probably better. 1996 WWF wasn't in great shape and 1997 WWF told Bret to go talk to WCW; there's no way they don't cut or drastically reduce Pillman's pay as soon as the buzz wears off and the reality of his situation sinks in.

There's no telling how things would've changed had Pillman not gotten into the accident (and he would've not had as much a need to self-medicate, which seems iffy since that played a role in the accident), but if everything else had stayed relatively the same, he definitely would've been better going to the WWF. We have the foresight to know what's about to happen, and there's no place for Pillman in all that. If Pillman made it, in shape and in mind, to WWF '98, there was indubitably a place for him in the Austin title run. I don't want to a fantasy book, but there's surely a main event title match in there somewhere.



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I just looked up Pillman's WWE run and it is way way shorter than I remember it being. As a matter of fact we are only two months away from the car wreck and about a year and eight months away from him dying.




    1996 WWF wasn't in great shape and 1997 WWF told Bret to go talk to WCW; there's no way they don't cut or drastically reduce Pillman's pay as soon as the buzz wears off and the reality of his situation sinks in.


That's the interesting thing, Pillman's buzz was actually dying out right before his death. Pillman pushing Austin's buttons in the Bret Hart feud before getting 'Pillmanized' was probably his finest WWE moment. He could have been the modern day Roddy Piper. He clearly couldn't go in the ring, at least not to the standard he could in the past, but he could still do everything to get a feud going, and in the end it probably wouldn't have mattered how much he could go, ala Piper, as long as he got what he had coming. Of course just like Piper he got stuck in a weird Goldust feud, back when getting into a feud with Goldust was like getting into a feud with Kane of today. There was just too much hokey shit. I remember waiting for the Goldust feud to end figuring he'd get matched up with someone better, but you never know looking back on it now maybe he would have just been shuffled on down the card.



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The interesting question with Pillman if it had played out in WCW was how the Horsemen association would have continued. Eccentricity was not something the Horsemen embraced, and how this would have impacted Pillman and potentially Benoit long term would have been fascinating.
Was that Raging Bull Manny Fernandez or some random guy named Manny Fernandez? Don't remember Fernandez being in Crockett/WCW after he left for the AWA in mid '88.
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation

    Was that Raging Bull Manny Fernandez or some random guy named Manny Fernandez? Don't remember Fernandez being in Crockett/WCW after he left for the AWA in mid '88.


The one and only! He kicked around the jobber shows pretty much through the end of wcw.

EDIT: My bad, I assumed that a site literally called Wrestling Data, with their extensive library of matches logged, would have separated the two.

Apparently there was a second Manny Fernandez who was our jobber, and NOT the same man you watched in the 1980's. As always; I am a chowderhead.

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    Originally posted by cfgb
      Originally posted by redsoxnation

      Was that Raging Bull Manny Fernandez or some random guy named Manny Fernandez? Don't remember Fernandez being in Crockett/WCW after he left for the AWA in mid '88.


    The one and only! He kicked around the jobber shows pretty much through the end of wcw.


There was another guy calling himself Manny Fernandez; I remember him doing a few jobs in WCW. Kinda looked like a fatter Colt Cabana. I assume the real Manny either a) approved of the guy or b) didn't get the chance to beat the shit out of him for stealing his name.



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On a different subject (but related to this particular Saturday Night show), as much as Luger is proving he's not trustworthy by all his cheating, it makes me wonder what the heck kind of moral leg he feels he has the right to stand on when Sting allegedly joins the nWo around this year's Fall Brawl.

Especially considering that the "fake Sting" thing has already been done before!



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