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redsoxnation: Must have been an error with the new laptop....What was originally typed must have been is: The double chokeslam is the last anyone sees or hears of Marcus Alexander Bagwell as a path of destruction occurs on the flotsam and jetsam of the roster...next up, Nasty Boys and Public Enemy. (Spoiler: This is WCW..don't bank on it!)
 
I won’t pretend I’m Buff Bagwell’s biggest fan or anything; but we couldn’t possibly imagine in 1996 what a roided up diva he’d eventually become, and I’m trying to play it fair to a certain degree. Bagwell by this time was just dying in tag-team hell with Scotty Riggs. They were nowhere near a point of being possible tag-team title contenders, and the best thing that could have happened to them would have been to split and allow Bagwell to get a feel for the midcard ranks. To lump him in with the Nastys or TPE isn’t fair to where Bagwell was at that point. The former were putting on regularly atrocious matches, with nothing they could bring to the table that better teams weren’t. The latter was an untested commodity, and pretty popular with the ladies.
 
BigDaddyLoco: One thing I miss about the Big Show is he doesn't chokeslam anymore. I don't know what I miss more the actual slam or his pose and yell after the fact.
 
You’re preaching to the guy who voted the Chokeslam as the Best Move for about 6 or 7 consecutive RSPW votes.
 
The shift has started. Hogan’s been nowhere to be seen for weeks, and the Booty Man has been kept to a bare minimum. Aside from The Giant, the Dungeon of Doom isn’t quite exuding the air of domination that permeated much of the last year. Better things are on the horizon.
 
But first we must survive the horrors of the Lethal frickin’ Lottery.
 
We are LIVE from Daytona Beach, Florida – and it’s all about Lex Luger’s title shot. Big “WEASEL” chant breaks out for BOBBY HEENAN, who is joined by ERIC BISCHOFF, MONGO MCMICHAEL, and PEPE. Also, Jushin Liger is here for a rare appearance! The soul sucking Dungeon of Doom music has fired up, which means it’s time to get down.
 
HUGH MORRUS vs. RANDY SAVAGE
 
Bischoff pimps out Savage as a “true American”. What the hell is Hugh Morrus, Jamaican?!? Morrus attacks on the floor during Savage’s entrance, breaking up Savage’s attempts to keep his cool for a record 11 seconds. Savage is thrown into the ringpost, and Morrus breaks the count even though the bell has never started this match. Morrus seeks plunder but comes up empty, so they get in the ring and we’re underway. Immediately, Morrus puts on Savage’s discarded ring gear in an attempt to fire the man up, and shows more personality in the process than 80% of the active roster.
 
 
Unfortunately for him, his plan works, and Savage attacks, clawing at the eyes of Morrus – a human bowling ball! The ring gear is used to choke Morrus, and Savage hangs him over the edge of the ring in what might be our first ever wrestling related homicide captured on camera!
 
 
The referee takes decisive action; he orders the bell be rung 800 times in a row to stop the assault at 1:33. Savage released the hold, and drops his big elbow off the top. The referee shoves Savage to the side HARD, so Savage cold cocks the referee!! And despite the protests of one Pee Wee Anderson who has rushed on to the scene, AND the bell man who is still ringing with all his might, Savage drops an elbow on Mark Curtis. DOUG DILLENGER, POLICE OFFICERS, as well as Nick Patrick who we will often find in the middle of controversial moments are on the scene. Savage poses on the buckle for the fans, and then heads down to ringside to high five everyone in attendance. Doug Dillenger, using his years of experience at defusing high stress situations, points to the back repeatedly. We take a commercial break. **** for the entire segment.
 
Bischoff reads over a short memoriam for “Crippler” Ray Stevens, and encourages donations be made to the Cauliflower Alley Club.
 
DEAN MALENKO vs. JUSHIN “THUNDER” LIGER (with Sonny Onoo)
 
Bischoff announces that Shinjiro Ohtani has won the WCW Cruiserweight Title in Japan, and if you want to check out WorldWide on May 18th, you’ll see its first ever defense against one Dean Malenko. In preparation for this, he faces Liger who’s fresh off the plane. Liger takes early control on the mat, while Bischoff can’t talk enough of all this high flying action we’re seeing. Enzuigiri (aka “Back Leg Round Kick” courtesy of one Eric Bischoff) sends Deano to the floor, just as RIC FLAIR, ELIZABETH, and WOMAN strut down because god forbid we show interest in THIS match. Liger FLATTENS Malenko with a brainbuster, and we take a commercial break because up yours.
 
Upon return, Flair, Liz, and Woman have created a VIP section, and drink champagne by candle light on Macho’s dollar. Mongo shows complete disdain for the match we’re not watching. Malenko’s working a grapevine by the time we remember something’s going on in the ring, and Liger’s begging for an out. He reaches the ropes, so Malenko releases and immediately drops a knee on Liger’s leg. Liger rolls around in pain, and finds himself locked back in a grapevine in the centre of the ring again. Liger escapes, and promptly no sells the leg by hitting a handspring elbow, and follows with a handspring heel kick. They head up, where Malenko fights Liger off, so Liger hits a dropkick instead that sends Dean to the floor. Liger now beautifully flies off the top and they smack the floor with serious intensity! Back in, another handspring back elbow is attempted, but Dean blocks and sits right down with a pin attempt for 2. The pair fight to the top, and Deano wins THAT war with a SUPER gutbuster!! Dean tries a powerbomb, but Liger counters midair and moves right through into a pinfall for 2! Malenko pops up and finishes with the Tigerbomb at 6:51. ***1/2
 
“MEAN” GENE OKERLUND wants a word with the now-drunk Ric Flair, Woman, and Liz. Flair says Robin Leach couldn’t get invited to the kind of party he throws. He takes us through tonight, where they flew in on a Lear Jet, checked into the nicest hotel in the area, and casually decided to check out what was going on with WCW. Gene asks to get in on this, and starts drinking too. They talk Slamboree, and Flair isn’t worried about working with Savage because Arn is on the other side, so they’ll just beat him down yet again. Moving on, Flair starts hitting on DEBRA MCMICHAEL and offers her a glass of champagne. Debra pours it out in front of Ric. “I understand that she’s from the state of Texas. Mean Gene, before it’s all over you’re gonna know why they call me an all around cowboy.” Mongo’s incensed, but stays put in his booth yet again.
 
OUR WORLD IS ABOUT TO CHANGE
BLOOD RUNS COLD
COMING TO WCW
 
What on earth could THAT mean? Maybe one of your astute readers can crack that mysterious code. redsoxnation, I’m looking at you.
 
“LORD” STEVEN REGAL (with Jeeves) vs. STING
 
Regal’s sporting a pretty big bandaid over his eye from last week’s parking lot brawl. This is an interesting pairing, and one I have a great deal in confidence in; don’t let me down guys. Regal is having none of the fans tonight, and threatens to beat each and every one of them up. Sting comes to their defense, and tries to immediately apply the Deathlock. Regal makes the ropes, rolls to the floor, and screams like a newborn. This is an opportune time to take a commercial break. Heenan: “I’m going to get a glass of bubbly!”
 
Upon return, Regal’s on the receiving end of a shoulderblock, and he’s near tears from all the pain he’s in. Still, he doesn’t stop to threaten to beat up the fans for continuing to chant for both the USA and Sting. Sting tries a wristlock, but Regal smartly makes the ropes, and shows off his guns. Sting mocks Regal’s pansy movements, which is downright rude. Regal takes Sting down with a wristlock, and stomps the ear a little when the referee is looking elsewhere. Sting fights up and chokes Regal out using Regal’s own arms. Regal reverses and does the same back to Sting. Eat some of THAT! Sting powers loose, and Regal begs off. Of course, his actual motivation is to jab Sting in the eye, and hits a European uppercut with such force you can almost call him Dave Taylor. I mean, not quite, NOBODY is Dave Taylor, but he’s trying. Sting dropkicks Regal, and starts the running clotheslines. He isn’t buying the begging this time, and sets up the Stinger Splash – but Regal moves and taunts Sting because he’s the man! Tigerbomb goes to finish, but Sting backdrops out and holds for a Northern Lights and the pin at 6:15. ***
 
It’s main event time, but Luger is once again nowhere to be seen. Instead, we’re greeted to …
 
“HACKSAW” JIM DUGGAN vs. THE GIANT (with Jimmy Hart) (for the WCW World Heavyweight title)
 
Duggan gets a massive heel reaction while the announcers try and make sense of whatever’s going on here. DAVE PENZER announces that Lex Luger hasn’t arrived, and that Jim Duggan has volunteered to take Luger’s place. Thanks for being such a selfless sport Jim, except. Oh, wait, free World Title shot, duh. Duggan throws his punches while Giant is straddled on the way in. The referee forces him to knock the cheating off, so Duggan goes to his only other move: chanting USA. Giant chokes Duggan in the corner using his boot, and follows that with some gentle dry humping. Duggan remembers he’s straight as an arrow and runs away from that. He goes for a slam, but come on, ain’t nobody allowed to do that not named Hogan. Giant headbutts Duggan to the ring apron, where he rolls to the outside to die. Giant yanks him back in, but misses an avalanche. Duggan goes for the tape, but it’s no use. Chokeslam finishes this atrocity at 3:15. Just for fun, Duggan takes another one. *
 
COBRA runs in to try and save Duggan, but he’s Cobra and not a real star, so he’s chokeslammed. FIDEL “BARRIO” SIERRA tries as well, and it’s much of the same. Rock on, it’s the Prime roster! Who’s next? Pat Tanaka? Buck Quartermaine? The Gambler?!?!?! Instead we’re given ALEX WRIGHT, who’s chokeslammed, drawing RIC FLAIR and a chair! He smacks Giant, and now STING is on site with chop blocks to take Giant down! Sting unloads with a series of right hands, pokes the eyes, and perches himself on the top for a super double sledge. Scorpion Deathlock is tried, and with serious work, Sting is able to turn it! Now Hart flies in with his megaphone to clock Sting, and here comes LEX LUGER with a Haliburton in hand! Both Giant and Sting’s heads are turned, and Luger’s standing in the middle of both. Sting turns around, and Luger swears he was about to hit Giant.
 
“MEAN” GENE OKERLUND hits the ring through this chaos, while Giant skulks to the back. Gene demands to know where Luger’s been, but Sting takes over and wants to know. Luger plays innocent, but Sting isn’t buying this – stating it’s 2 straight weeks he’s missed his title shot. We’re dramatically out of time, there’s NBA games to be played, so we gots to go. This will all need to be resolved on bigger ground.
 
Perhaps on Prime later today.




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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.83
    Originally posted by cfgb
    Tigerbomb goes to finish, but Sting backdrops out and holds for a Northern Lights and the pin at 6:15. ***



Wow, how many times has Sting ever won without the Scorpion drop or lock?



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.40
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
      Originally posted by cfgb
      Tigerbomb goes to finish, but Sting backdrops out and holds for a Northern Lights and the pin at 6:15. ***



    Wow, how many times has Sting ever won without the Scorpion drop or lock?


I got a question about Sting. I didn't watch much in the mid-90's, how would you compare Sting then to John Cena now?
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.22
    Originally posted by texasranger9
      Originally posted by Matt Tracker
        Originally posted by cfgb
        Tigerbomb goes to finish, but Sting backdrops out and holds for a Northern Lights and the pin at 6:15. ***



      Wow, how many times has Sting ever won without the Scorpion drop or lock?


    I got a question about Sting. I didn't watch much in the mid-90's, how would you compare Sting then to John Cena now?
Sting took a step back to Hogan and Savage from 94-96 so he was the number three babyface at this stage.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.23
    Originally posted by graves9
      Originally posted by texasranger9
        Originally posted by Matt Tracker
          Originally posted by cfgb
          Tigerbomb goes to finish, but Sting backdrops out and holds for a Northern Lights and the pin at 6:15. ***



        Wow, how many times has Sting ever won without the Scorpion drop or lock?


      I got a question about Sting. I didn't watch much in the mid-90's, how would you compare Sting then to John Cena now?
    Sting took a step back to Hogan and Savage from 94-96 so he was the number three babyface at this stage.


It was a weird dynamic though, because Sting was "Their Guy", so he really was right there in the eyes of many fans even if the push wasn't the same. On the flip side I'd argue that Sting was never the main guy or at least shouldn't have been although he had a little Undertaker in him meaning he didn't have to have the top billing or the title shot to draw interest. He had a little Bret Hart where even when he was on top it always felt a little iffy, but WCW fans really loved the guy. He was the ultimate WCW guy, he would have never made it as far in the WWF/E, because it was just a different world. Sting was pretty much Sting for many years because he had Flair and The Horsemen.

However, if he were to switch eras and companies with John Cena he would be getting the same mixed reactions Cena gets today and Cena would have been beloved by most then. So, in a way they are similar.

On a side note. Is the only reason Hogan is missing is because of Thunder in Paradise?



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Combining Blood Runs Cold with my deciphering of the dirt sheets, means that this is how they are introducing Big Daddy Cool Diesel. This is the type of brilliant creation that has caused WCW to be considered a visionary organization to this day.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.22
Believe Hogan was filming Santa with muscles and a couple other projects at the time. I disagree on Sting I think he would have been a star if he would have been in he WWE as he was a much better wrestler than the Ulimate Warrior and more charismatic, While Hogan did get pushed ahead of Sting as the top babyface I would say that Sting and even Savage were more over babyfaces during this time and Hogan got a lot of backlash in 95-96 and was booed at many shows and finally got the hint turned heel and reinvented himself and changed wrestling.
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Would Hogan have been more successful or less successful with a full head of hair? I say less because the balding mullet created the visual that he was always an older guy getting his ass kicked by big fat guys, which absolutely worked in his favor in terms of sympathy. The balding mullet also worked for his heel turn as he automatically became a mid-life crisis guy holding on to past glory, even though that past glory didn't exist since he was always bald.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.23
Hogan is not bald. He just really likes wearing bandanas.

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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.40
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    Hogan is not bald. He just really likes wearing bandanas.

    (edited by BigDaddyLoco on 7.5.13 1239)


Solar panel for a sex machine?

So there wasn't groups of fans everywhere wCw went that boo'd Sting because the kids and women cheered for him? Thats why I asked.


I watched the Best of Nitro on Netflix recently because of these reviews. Sting looks so much bigger in that DDP vs Sting match then he does in 1996.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.84
    Originally posted by texasranger9

    So there wasn't groups of fans everywhere wCw went that boo'd Sting because the kids and women cheered for him? Thats why I asked.

From what I know/remember, they didn't necessarily boo Sting as much as they cheered louder for Flair from time to time. I don't remember Sting ever getting booed like Hogan did 1994-1996.
Sting wasn't nearly as insufferable as Cena. He was also the most gullible superstar from 1987-2001, so it was hard to really hate him when he looked like a frittata week in and week out.
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.38
Sting was the ultimate good guy but not in the annoying, pandering sort of way that Cena is. I don't recall him ever being booed, or at least not by anything approaching a noticeable level. A big part of that, as already mentioned, was the fact he was constantly vulnerable and always seemed to be fighting from behind which lended itself to fans sympathising with him.

Having said that it definitely helped that the change in business from 96-99 coincided with his re-invention. Without the dark look, rooftop entrances and baseball bat I'm not sure how surfer Sting would have coped in the nWo era WCW. He certainly didn't have anything close to the coolness factor of Hall & Nash til he Crowed himself up.



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Yeah Sting never really got the type of backlash the Hogan got in the mid 90's or Cena has gotten over the last five years or even the Rock back in '02-03 when he was leaving and coming back. The fans even refused to boo Sting when WCW and TNA tried to turn him heel.
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As a matter of fact, Sting would get cheered in WCW when he was doing heelish things! I distinctly remember, during the period where heel Sting and Luger were feuding with face Hulk Hogan in late '99, a segment in which Sting beat Hogan with a baseball bat while he was signing autographs.

"Hulkster, can I have an autograph tooooooo?" One of my all-time favorite Sting moments!



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.82
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    As a matter of fact, Sting would get cheered in WCW when he was doing heelish things! I distinctly remember, during the period where heel Sting and Luger were feuding with face Hulk Hogan in late '99, a segment in which Sting beat Hogan with a baseball bat while he was signing autographs.

    "Hulkster, can I have an autograph tooooooo?" One of my all-time favorite Sting moments!


Now to be fair; turning Sting on HOGAN of all people was the most ill-conceived, idiotic, short-sighted, mentally challenged decision they could have made if they wanted a heel run.

Hogan had spent the previous THREE years utterly terrorizing Sting with the nWo. Just because he changed his underwear we were suddenly supposed to forget the 18 month chase from arena rafters to arena rafters? Or his subsequent turning to nWo Wolfpac because he needed backup against Hogan, and it was his only hope?

The timing was awful. The idea was ridiculous. Could Sting have been an effective heel? Yes ... but not with Hogan as the bloody nucleus, without any justification for the turn.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.36
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    It was a weird dynamic though, because Sting was "Their Guy"

This was pretty much it in a nutshell. Sting always got a pass from the WCW fanbase, because he was a loyal company guy all the way to the company's demise. Hogan, Savage, the other WWF castoffs like Duggan and Beefcake, and the later guys like Hall and Nash were always considered to be "invaders", which is part of the reason that the nWo angle was so successful. In the eyes of WCW fans, guys like Sting and Flair could do no wrong.



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What was really annoying was how, right after they turned Sting heel, they did a promo package suggesting the possibility that Sting had always been Evil All Along, and using the flimsiest possible rationale for it.

(Also, we're apparently supposed to root against Sting when he beat the crap out of JJ Dillon, who's another guy it's very hard to root for. And at least he isn't a WWF castoff!)

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