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To call any version of USA basketball besides V.1 (maybe v.2) the Dream Team is a joke.

Dream Team:
Johnson
Bird
Jordan
Barkley
Drexler
Mullins
Malone
Stockton
Pippen
Latner
(ok, those are by memory. I forget the other two)

No other team beat teams by 40, 50 and 60 points. The original team, that allowed pros only won by 16 points (I think) once, the rest were blow outs.

Last night the USA team won by a single margin, that is not a Dream Team. Was it the second team that lost? or the third?

Dream Team can only have Magic,Bird and the Air on it.



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.85
    Originally posted by TopTenPro
    To call any version of USA basketball besides V.1 (maybe v.2) the Dream Team is a joke.

    Dream Team:
    Johnson
    Bird
    Jordan
    Barkley
    Drexler
    Mullins
    Malone
    Stockton
    Pippen
    Latner
    (ok, those are by memory. I forget the other two)

    No other team beat teams by 40, 50 and 60 points. The original team, that allowed pros only won by 16 points (I think) once, the rest were blow outs.

    Last night the USA team won by a single margin, that is not a Dream Team. Was it the second team that lost? or the third?

    Dream Team can only have Magic,Bird and the Air on it.


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EDIT: DJ's picture...


looks like a perfect one for one of Kawshen's caption contests.

My caption is: USA team members fight each other for the basketball so they can get their shots.


(edited by BOSsportsfan34 on 11.8.04 1637)

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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.89
    Originally posted by TopTenPro
    Dream Team can only have Magic,Bird and the Air on it.


Not true, maybe it has to have Magic, Bird and Jordan on it for it to be YOUR Dream Team. But personally I don't like all 3 and would rather see Wade, Lebron, 'Melo. Hell, my Dream Team could include BJ Armstrong, Udonis Haslem, Jack Haley, and Del Curry for all you know.



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    Originally posted by Quezzy
    Hell, my Dream Team could include BJ Armstrong, Udonis Haslem, Jack Haley, and Del Curry for all you know.


Without Mark Madsen warming the bench/dancing at the victory party there IS no Dream Team.


(edited by Blanket Jackson on 12.8.04 1042)

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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.04
http://sports.yahoo.com/oly/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpZmFlcXBpBF9TAzk1ODYxOTQ4BHNlYwN0aA--?slug=ap-us-puertoricobko&prov=ap&type=lgns

Maybe this is being discussed in the Olympics thread over in the "Random" folder, but YEESH ... Maybe now (if things continue as they are) perhaps the qualifying committee will take a hint and realize, hey maybe sending an All-Star team for international competition maybe ISN'T a smart move after all.





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I really don't see why some people are so shocked by this. You can't win w/o range shooting and decent defense. I thought that the NBA Finals proved this.

Also, let's not forget that this is a team of 2nd and 3rd choices in the first place. When Allen Iverson is the oldest guy on the team (and arguably the best range shooter) - you've got some issues.

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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.93
I think the Sports Guy nailed how they should build the team.

This is the Sports Guy's team

Starting Five:

Tim Duncan
Lamar Odom
Michael Redd
Rip Hamilton
Dwayne Wade

Bench:

Brad Miller
Allen Iverson
Tayshaun Prince
LeBron James
Amare Stoudemire
Brian Cardinal
Fred Hoiberg

Context can be found here. (sports.espn.go.com)


Basically though, he confined himself to what the current team had to work with. He didn't consider people who didn't want to play for whatever reasons. I believe he's also since taken Amare off the team and added Carmelo Anthony.

(edited by Whitebacon on 16.8.04 1820)


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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.89
I like that team the Sports Guy made too. And I actually wondered how come none of the World Champion Pistons were inclueded. I think just sending them alone would be better than this team. Rip and Tayshaun are both good choices. I wouldn't mind having either Wallace on the team too.



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The main problem with the US team is that they don't have any pass-first point guard to lead them. Iverson and Marbury are shooting guards in point guards bodies. The Sports Guy's team doesn't solve this problem. I'd even take a Chauncy Billups or an Eric Snow at this point. Since Labron James is more of a point-foward, I'd play him more and let him lead.

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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.76
    Originally posted by Quezzy
    I like that team the Sports Guy made too. And I actually wondered how come none of the World Champion Pistons were inclueded. I think just sending them alone would be better than this team. Rip and Tayshaun are both good choices. I wouldn't mind having either Wallace on the team too.


Rip and Big Ben were offered spots, but they turned them down.

(edited by Reverend J Shaft on 19.8.04 0919)
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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.93
    Originally posted by skorpio17
    The main problem with the US team is that they don't have any pass-first point guard to lead them. Iverson and Marbury are shooting guards in point guards bodies. The Sports Guy's team doesn't solve this problem. I'd even take a Chauncy Billups or an Eric Snow at this point. Since Labron James is more of a point-foward, I'd play him more and let him lead.




That just goes back to the problem with the NBA as a whole. There aren't many pass-first points in the league, and Wade's probably as close to one as there is in the league. Kirk Hinrich would also be a guy I wouldn't mind seeing on future Olympic teams, provided he learns to hit some free throws.

And I believe Hamilton only turned down the spot because he was the 47th choice, or something like that.



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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.43
Why would anyone turn down a shot at the Olympics? The actual title of the event aside, Focus on the thought of representing your country! You win, your country wins, your flag is raised and your anthem is played. What greater motivation is there?

I hate the fact that millionaires would rather sit at home, buying cars and doing episodes of "Cribs", rather than spending a few months and playing for their country. International sporting events are the rare time (tragedy being the other) that Americans forget difference, and come together.

While I am ranting, Micheal Jordan is an ass. Wanna know why Christian Leightner was on the first Dream Team, because of Jordan. Thomas was supposed to be there, but because Jordan disliked Detroit's Bad Boys so much he was going to back out if any of them were chosen.



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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.05
    Originally posted by TopTenPro
    Why would anyone turn down a shot at the Olympics? The actual title of the event aside, Focus on the thought of representing your country! You win, your country wins, your flag is raised and your anthem is played. What greater motivation is there?


TYPICAL NBA PLAYER'S CAREER GOALS:
1. NBA Championship
2. NBA Championship
3. NBA Championship
4. NBA Championship
5. NBA Championship
6. Olympic Gold Medal

That's the problem with sending NBA players, they value the title more than the gold medal. Do I agree with that logic? Not particularly. Do I understand it? Pretty much. That's why they shouldn't send Major League players for the baseball, either.


    While I am ranting, Micheal Jordan is an ass. Wanna know why Christian Leightner was on the first Dream Team, because of Jordan. Thomas was supposed to be there, but because Jordan disliked Detroit's Bad Boys so much he was going to back out if any of them were chosen.


'92 DREAM TEAM - MJ + Isiah = NOT REALLY A "DREAM TEAM"



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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.57
The Dream Team concept should have been a one-time thing. There will never be another collection of players like the 92 Olympic team. Now we just have stars and individuals who don't know or care about a team concept. I'm all for either giving the Olympics back to the college hoops players or being smart about it and picking an NBA "team" of players - players that will actually get dirty and down on the court - that will give themselves up for a charge or a loose ball

I hate to sound unpatriotic but I hope this year's team lose every one of their remaining games



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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.66
Apparently it wasn't just Jordan....Magic and Bird also voiced their disagreement with Thomas getting a spot. Maybe the problem is that Isiah is just a jerk.



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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95

I've never heard this story at all before, but I guess it would make sense that Bird wouldnt want Isiah on the team, but I cant imagine Magic agreeing with that too.

On a side note, I'd be curious to see the WHOLE list of guys that turned the Olympics down before they ended up with this team.



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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.02
    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
    On a side note, I'd be curious to see the WHOLE list of guys that turned the Olympics down before they ended up with this team.


Don't know if you saw this list from Marc Stein:

Excuses, Excuses

Accepted but backed out Reason
Ray Allen Marriage
Mike Bibby Security concerns
Kobe Bryant Legal issues
Jason Kidd Knee surgery
Karl Malone Knee surgery, retirement?
Tracy McGrady Security concerns
Jermaine O'Neal Injury, rest

Refused invitations Reason
Elton Brand Injury
Vince Carter Marriage
Kevin Garnett Marriage, security concerns
Richard Hamilton Security, rest
Kenyon Martin Free agency
Shaquille O'Neal Rest
Ben Wallace Security, rest


This team would be SO MUCH BETTER with Mike "Shaq was right about that whole 'Queens' thing" Bibby instead of Starbury. "Security Concerns". Give me a break.

Also, Ray Allen, VC, and KG are WHIPPED.


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I don't see why they don't just take undrafted college players and make an international team out of them. There are many good ball players not in the NBA who had good college careers. Why not take them, form a team, and let them play in international competitions. Kind of a best of the undrafted college players. If they play with each other on a desginated international team, maybe they can better adapt to the international style.



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I feel the US team is a reflection of what is wrong with the NBA today.

I grew up a Laker's fan. Living on the East coast I was a loner in my school, loving the Lakers over Boston. Magic, Kareem, and Green they passed the ball.

Not to say the other teams did not pass the ball, but in the 80s it was about triple doubles, not scores over thirty. The problem today is in high school they dream of skipping college to go the NBA, and make millions. How do you get noticed, not by passing the ball, but shooting it, dunking it, making yourself look good.

The old days (1980s and before) basketball and sports in general were looked at for getting a higher education, looking towards life after sports. Today, they seem more focused on today not tomorrow, and it shows in the game they play.

Immature play has hurt the game, that is why I have not watched a game of basketball since Magic Johnson retired, for the last time.

Today's "Dream Team" is not only a reflection on today's NBA, but on the dreams of parents for their children.



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