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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.44
    Originally posted by Brian P. Dermody
    You know who else smokes pot?

    Lots of people. Machida finishing a fight is a much bigger story than this.


But lots of people don't say they want to be a role model for kids, give motivational speeches all over for big bucks, and endorse products for millions. And what kind of judgement does it show to do this in a place where he can be photographed.

I could care less what he does but what an idiot.



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.80
    Originally posted by DrDirt
    I could care less what he does but what an idiot.


I hate when people say this. All I hear/read is, "I'm not going to judge him, but wait for a minute while I judge him."

It's simple: You think smoking weed is bad and you can judge a person for it, or you don't. If you think there's no problem with smoking weed, or if you think he should have the right to do it if he wants to, you should be more upset with a media that blows this out of proportion than you should Phelps. If you think smoking weed is wrong and the media is correct to demonize him for it, then say that. But you can't say both.

Obviously Phelps didn't say this, but why can't you smoke weed AND be a role model? He was doing it before, the difference being that nobody knew about it. What if the example he's setting is that people should do whatever they want, public opinion be damned? This is not a story at all unless you think smoking weed is bad. Now, Phelps has come out with his bullshit apology, which in my opinion is the only thing that really makes him look bad.
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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.85
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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.93
How dare he! These children today should be taught that you can't be successful like Michael Phelps when you smoke weed! Er, wait...
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.77
I think you can think that the guy is an idiot and still not care whether or not he smokes weed. The fact is that while I may not care whether he smokes weed or not, I know other people do and that there will be consequences for that. Therefore I may conclude that Phelps also should know that there will be consequences and thus is an idiot for risking that to smoke weed (or at least smoking weed at a public place where he could easily be photographed and exposed).

He has already lost one endorsement deal. (http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ap-phelps-kellogg&prov=ap&type=lgns) He also has been suspended from the U.S. swimming team. (http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ap-phelpssuspended&prov=ap&type=lgns)





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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.85
Michael Phelps was successful due to his physical capabilities and gifts given to him due to genetics. We're not talking about a self-made millionaire that spent years putting his nose to the grindstone and making savvy decisions with his money, only to have it all flushed down the drain. It's a kid who had two absolutely incredible weeks last summer, two incredible weeks in '04, and prospectively, two incredible weeks in 2012 (that suspension only lasts 3 months).

Realistically, (and notably the reason I've been sarcastic when discussing it) this is nothing more than a blip that will last for '15 minutes', and probably be brought up again in 2012 after Phelps wins even more gold, and is lauded for overcoming this hardship. I'll sit back and smirk snarkily when that happens; the hardship he's going through is media backlash, not getting high.

And I get what you're saying: Why CAN'T you smoke weed and be a role model? Because using marijuana is illegal. I'm not so crass as to say it's the same as making a role model out of a purse snatcher or a tax dodger, but there are still many people in this country who feel that any dealings with marijuana is a bigger taboo than either of those activities.

Lastly, I think it's important to take a look at the Sheriff in whatever county that wants to prosecute him. I can almost guarentee he's not on the beat looking out for every little crime (nor is he making the obvious move of arresting the person who took the picture and didn't report the act/odds on owner of the bong), but it's a big fish to catch, now isn't it?



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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.00
    Originally posted by Zeruel
    Ashton Kutcher, via imdb.com, says that the real on at fault is the picture taker...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.


I agree completely with everything Kutcher said. Obviously, Phelps smoked weed at a party and thus must share some of the blame for putting himself in that position. But taking a picture of something relatively innocent like that and distributing it knowing it's going to screw Phelps over big-time is just an asshole move, plain and simple. Phelps should have seen it coming, but that doesn't mean the dude isn't a douchebag for taking the pic, either.
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by Lexus
    Michael Phelps was successful due to his physical capabilities and gifts given to him due to genetics. We're not talking about a self-made millionaire that spent years putting his nose to the grindstone and making savvy decisions with his money, only to have it all flushed down the drain. It's a kid who had two absolutely incredible weeks last summer, two incredible weeks in '04, and prospectively, two incredible weeks in 2012 (that suspension only lasts 3 months).


According to Yahoo, he may not come back for 2012. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090206/us_nm/us_swimming_phelps_2

I still have to disagree with you hayden. By calling the photog a douche for taking the pic because "it's going to screw Phelps over big time" makes Phelps a BIGGER DOUCHE because he must know doing something illegal will screw himself over big time. And doing it in front of other college aged kids at a campus party? Where there must have been probably at least 1 cellphone camera for every 2 people?

If you don't want to get caught breaking the law, do it in private by yourself. Simple. He, and or others, can blame the photog (assuming that one one released a photo) but no one had a gun to his head and forced him to take a hit. There is no "sharing of blame." Phelps screwed Phelps.





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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.44
    Originally posted by ges7184
    I think you can think that the guy is an idiot and still not care whether or not he smokes weed. The fact is that while I may not care whether he smokes weed or not, I know other people do and that there will be consequences for that. Therefore I may conclude that Phelps also should know that there will be consequences and thus is an idiot for risking that to smoke weed (or at least smoking weed at a public place where he could easily be photographed and exposed).

    He has already lost one endorsement deal. (http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ap-phelps-kellogg&prov=ap&type=lgns) He also has been suspended from the U.S. swimming team. (http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ap-phelpssuspended&prov=ap&type=lgns)




I don't care if he lights up but he is an idiot to think that what happened wouldn't. If I could be set for my life and my children's children by staying out of trouble for a couple of years, I would try really hard.

We know he has discipline based on his achievements. I personally would give him a break but I didn't sign him to a multi-million dollar deal. And he's not a kid, he's 23.



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.32
And now arrests are being made.

Defense lawyers say South Carolina police making arrests in Michael Phelps probe


    COLUMBIA, S.C. -- Authorities in the South Carolina county where Michael Phelps was photographed smoking from a marijuana pipe have been arresting people as they seek to make a case against the superstar swimmer, lawyers for two arrested people said Thursday.


The fact that this is getting dragged out isn't even the most annoying part of this story anymore. It's this quote that really stood out...


    "After they arrested him, they didn't ask him, 'Where did you get the marijuana?' or 'Who sold it to you?' Almost all the questions they asked him were about Michael Phelps," Harpootlian said.


That right there tells me that this whole investigation is bogus. This isn't about looking to enforce the law. If it was, they would be more concerned with where the drugs are coming from. This is about some small-town sheriff looking to make himself famous by targeting a celebrity.

Yeah, celebrities aren't above their law, but they also shouldn't be more culpable because of their status, either.




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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.70
Courtesy jimrome.com and the Jim Rome radio Show,


"The heat Michael Phelps is getting now probably isn’t proportionate to his transgression. Then again, the hype he received after getting out of the pool in Beijing probably exceeded the accomplishment then! That’s how it goes in this day and age. Of course, we build these people up, only to tear them down the first chance we get. To quote every athlete in the world, “it is what it is.” And they need to know that and make good choices. And going to some college party for “bongs rips” is the wrong choice. How do you not know that some stoner is going to snap your pic, sell it to a tabloid and then try to sell the bong on eBay?!"

"Again, I’m not saying that “bong rip” was crime against all humanity. But if you’re that guy, it may as well be, and you’re going to take some. Lucky for Phelps, the fact that a minor league franchise is now clowning him, may be a sign that story is officially at “
“ground zero”. This is where I give the Milwaukee Admirals exactly what they were hoping for…“run”…“pub”.

They’re breaking out with a “don’t be like Mike night”… where anyone named Michael or Phelps or Mary Jane gets a discount to a game next week. C’mon! There aren’t 50 people in the history of the world named Mary Jane. And I guarantee not one of them will be in Milwaukee to see the Admirals skate. And on the off chance that Mary “Jane” Blige is, or someone else named Mary Jane does come…you don’t give her a discount…you let her in for free. Or pay her to come!"

"Wait, there’s more! According to their website, anyone who has won an Olympic Gold Medal gets a discount too. Awesome! Too bad the Lakers are at home that night, or Kobe Bryant and his gold medal definitely would have taken advantage of that. And best of all, you don’t need to be a “Mary Jane” or a gold medal winner to get some. If the admirals score a goal with 4:20 on the clock, one fan will score season tickets. Because as all “burn-outs” know, 4:20 is universally accepted as the time of day, stoners like to blaze! 4:20 is “pot o’clock”! Twice a day! You know, like when stoners try to recruit other stoners as roommates, they list an ad that reads, the apartment is “420” friendly. "

"Give it to Mike! The Phelps brand is recession proof! He thrives in both up and down markets. People cash in on him when he kills it in the pool and they cash in on him when he melts down out of it. "

(edited by CajunMan on 12.2.09 2150)
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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.81
    Originally posted by CajunMan
    Courtesy jimrome.com and the Jim Rome radio Show,


    "The heat Michael Phelps is getting now probably isn’t proportionate to his transgression. Then again, the hype he received after getting out of the pool in Beijing probably exceeded the accomplishment then! That’s how it goes in this day and age. Of course, we build these people up, only to tear them down the first chance we get. To quote every athlete in the world, “it is what it is.” And they need to know that and make good choices. And going to some college party for “bongs rips” is the wrong choice. How do you not know that some stoner is going to snap your pic, sell it to a tabloid and then try to sell the bong on eBay?!"


This is what I'm talking about. This is total hypocritical bullshit. "What he did is not a big deal, but I'm going to act like I'm OK with people acting like it is a big deal." It's either Phelps was wrong, or people are blowing it out of proportion and Phelps is a victim. How can it possibly be both?

I love this coming from a member of the media, on his own show. Of course Jim Rome is going to toe the line and point the finger at Phelps in the same passive aggressive manner everyone else is.

It reminds me of a party I was at about two years ago, where several of my friends were sitting around speculating that another friend, who was not present, must be gay. The conversation included several "not that there's anything wrong with being gay, right Dan? Hehehehe" jokes, where being gay was obviously used as an insult. The punchline was, "I don't have a problem with him being gay, but I think it's pretty pathetic that he feels like he has to hide it."

The people had decided he must be gay, then insinuated people were gay as an insult, then decided they could look down on a person because he would dare to hide what they assumed was his sexuality. They seemed completely oblivious to their own role in why he might not want to reveal it (pretending they even knew for sure he was gay). Why even talk about it if it's not a big deal? And how can that possibly be his fault?

The media is similarly refusing to look at its own role in this bullshit. Where is there a person saying this transgression is a major, major offense? I'm sure they exist, but they are completely drowned out by people saying it's not a big deal. So why is such a big deal being made of it?

I see nobody with any credibility saying, "Michael Phelps was wrong to smoke weed, and that is a major offense." EVERYONE is saying "he shouldn't have smoked weed because he knew there would be people who thought it was a major offense."

"What he did was not a big deal, but he's a total dumbass for doing it" makes absolutely ZERO sense.

EDIT: Here is another issue, raised by Kathleen Parker in The Washington Post:


    Drink and drive and it's grrrrrrrr-eat! Smoke pot and your flakes are frosted, dude. So seems the message from Kellogg's, which has decided not to renew its sponsorship contract with Michael Phelps after the Olympian was photographed smoking marijuana at a party in South Carolina.

    That's showbiz, of course, but the cereal and munchie company had no problem signing Phelps despite an alcohol-related arrest. In 2004, Phelps was fined and sentenced to 18 months probation and community service after pleading guilty to driving while impaired. The silliness of our laws -- and the hypocrisy of our selective attitudes toward mood enhancers -- needs no further elaboration. Even so, things are getting sillier by the minute.

    Sheriff Leon Lott in South Carolina's Richland County has now made eight pot-related arrests based on the snap that shot around the world. Seven were for possession and one for distribution, after deputies used warrants to enter the house where Phelps allegedly was photographed.

    Phelps may be next.

    In an earlier column, I gave Lott the benefit of the doubt, suggesting that his hands were tied given the laws of the land and South Carolina's political climate. I retract the benefit.

    Sheriffs, though elected and therefore political, have great latitude as to what crimes they pursue. In a state that recently ranked among the most dangerous in the nation, one would think South Carolina's law enforcement officials have better things to do.


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