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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.27
Just when you think things might have calmed down, Olbermann responds to Simmons tweets on his website.

    Originally posted by Keith Olbermann
    I'd also like to welcome new reader Bill Simmons, who has been kind enough to tweet about my note here last week already ceding him the dumbest sportswriting award of 2010 for his laugh-out-loud funny argument that the comeback of Tiger Woods (caught having repeated trouble with his putts) will be more difficult than that of Muhammad Ali (persecuted by the federal government for the color of his skin, his stance against the war, and his religious conversion, and effectively banned from his sport for two years).


    Mr. Simmons tweets:


    I'm furious that my Tiger column distracted America from a detailed and only mildly creepy case for Johnny Orsino's Hall of Fame candidacy.
    3:12 PM Mar 5th via UberTwitter



    This is pretty standard stuff for Mr. Simmons. Make a fool of yourself comparing Tiger Woods (loss of advertisers) to Muhammad Ali (loss of income, threatened loss of freedom), so change the topic - to an admittedly trivial column about a trivial moment from a marginal catcher named John Orsino.


    Mr. Simmons resumes:



    KO, please know the feeling is mutual. You're my worst case scenario for my career in 12 yrs: a pious, unlikable blowhard who lives alone.
    3:13 PM Mar 5th via UberTwitter



    This assumes that Mr. Simmons' career now is where mine was twelve years ago (anchoring SportsCenter, then my own MSNBC political show, anchoring NBC Weekend Nightly News, writing a best-selling sports book, etc). In fact, this assumes that this is Mr. Simmons' career, which is remarkable. Also, anybody who could write as many words without saying anything of consequence really should throw around the word "blowhard" as frequently as he would a street sewer cover.


    Also, I don't think "pious" necessarily means what he thinks it does.


    Having made his point 50% of his words ago, Mr. Simmons still continues. As usual:



    I feel bad about saying Olbermann lives alone. I forgot about his cats.
    3:30 PM Mar 5th via UberTwitter



    Mr. Simmons apparently uses, for factual research, old parody sketches from "Saturday Night Live." I'm not surprised. That was Ben Affleck. Thanks for playing.


    I am surprised, however, to be able to shed some light on something that has been a prominent topic of late around the internet: the prospect that Mr. Simmons is leaving ESPN. Admittedly I am something of an authority on this process. Nonetheless, I was stunned to receive several emails from some of Mr. Simmons' bosses there, thanking me for pointing out the absurdity of, and the embarrassment to ESPN provided by, the Woods/Ali comparison.


    About five years ago, I guess, somebody said Tony Kornheiser was the most uncontrollable, unmanageable talent in the history of ESPN. I was, of course, crushed (although I believe I got honorable mention). When ESPN bosses are writing me for helping them about somebody they claim has now lapped Tony and myself, I am left to conclude only that if Mr. Simmons does leave ESPN, it may not be entirely of his own choosing.


    And we now encourage Mr. Simmons to again falme the comments section under various identities, to his heart's content. This is a managed site, and they can take 'em down. But enjoy yourself.



(edited by BOSsportsfan34 on 8.3.10 2120)


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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.56
    Originally posted by BOSsportsfan34
    Just when you think things might have calmed down, Olbermann responds to Simmons tweets on his website.

      Originally posted by Keith Olbermann
      I'd also like to welcome new reader Bill Simmons, who has been kind enough to tweet about my note here last week already ceding him the dumbest sportswriting award of 2010 for his laugh-out-loud funny argument that the comeback of Tiger Woods (caught having repeated trouble with his putts) will be more difficult than that of Muhammad Ali (persecuted by the federal government for the color of his skin, his stance against the war, and his religious conversion, and effectively banned from his sport for two years).


      Mr. Simmons tweets:


      I'm furious that my Tiger column distracted America from a detailed and only mildly creepy case for Johnny Orsino's Hall of Fame candidacy.
      3:12 PM Mar 5th via UberTwitter



      This is pretty standard stuff for Mr. Simmons. Make a fool of yourself comparing Tiger Woods (loss of advertisers) to Muhammad Ali (loss of income, threatened loss of freedom), so change the topic - to an admittedly trivial column about a trivial moment from a marginal catcher named John Orsino.


      Mr. Simmons resumes:



      KO, please know the feeling is mutual. You're my worst case scenario for my career in 12 yrs: a pious, unlikable blowhard who lives alone.
      3:13 PM Mar 5th via UberTwitter



      This assumes that Mr. Simmons' career now is where mine was twelve years ago (anchoring SportsCenter, then my own MSNBC political show, anchoring NBC Weekend Nightly News, writing a best-selling sports book, etc). In fact, this assumes that this is Mr. Simmons' career, which is remarkable. Also, anybody who could write as many words without saying anything of consequence really should throw around the word "blowhard" as frequently as he would a street sewer cover.


      Also, I don't think "pious" necessarily means what he thinks it does.


      Having made his point 50% of his words ago, Mr. Simmons still continues. As usual:



      I feel bad about saying Olbermann lives alone. I forgot about his cats.
      3:30 PM Mar 5th via UberTwitter



      Mr. Simmons apparently uses, for factual research, old parody sketches from "Saturday Night Live." I'm not surprised. That was Ben Affleck. Thanks for playing.


      I am surprised, however, to be able to shed some light on something that has been a prominent topic of late around the internet: the prospect that Mr. Simmons is leaving ESPN. Admittedly I am something of an authority on this process. Nonetheless, I was stunned to receive several emails from some of Mr. Simmons' bosses there, thanking me for pointing out the absurdity of, and the embarrassment to ESPN provided by, the Woods/Ali comparison.


      About five years ago, I guess, somebody said Tony Kornheiser was the most uncontrollable, unmanageable talent in the history of ESPN. I was, of course, crushed (although I believe I got honorable mention). When ESPN bosses are writing me for helping them about somebody they claim has now lapped Tony and myself, I am left to conclude only that if Mr. Simmons does leave ESPN, it may not be entirely of his own choosing.


      And we now encourage Mr. Simmons to again falme the comments section under various identities, to his heart's content. This is a managed site, and they can take 'em down. But enjoy yourself.



    (edited by BOSsportsfan34 on 8.3.10 2120)


People need to compose messages and then delete them. The fact that you can post shit doesn't mean you should and I don't mean Olbermann. he should just learn to ignore idiots.

We all really need to learn that most of what we have to say is just really not all that worth saying, except to oirselves and maybe a few friends. "Journalists" musings meant more when they had to be selective and choose what they could say.



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.12
    Originally posted by DrDirt
    People need to compose messages and then delete them. The fact that you can post shit doesn't mean you should and I don't mean Olbermann. he should just learn to ignore idiots.


Olbermann is the one who started it.



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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.56
    Originally posted by JayJayDean
      Originally posted by DrDirt
      People need to compose messages and then delete them. The fact that you can post shit doesn't mean you should and I don't mean Olbermann. he should just learn to ignore idiots.


    Olbermann is the one who started it.


Right. Sorry, I didn't explain myself better. Editors for much of the "journalistic" community are almost nonexistent. Simmons should do more than try to get a rise. Olbermann was correct the argument was beyond stupid but he should have ignored it.

The great part of the internet is that everyone that wants to has a voice. It also allows many to make a living. The bad part is just what I said. We all want everyone to know what we think but we have no training in expressing ourselves. I wouldn't change anything really but these silly pissing contests are well, just silly.



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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.39
    Originally posted by BOSsportsfan34
    Just when you think things might have calmed down, Olbermann responds to Simmons tweets on his website.

      Originally posted by Keith Olbermann
      I'd also like to welcome new reader Bill Simmons, who has been kind enough to tweet about my note here last week already ceding him the dumbest sportswriting award of 2010 for his laugh-out-loud funny argument that the comeback of Tiger Woods (caught having repeated trouble with his putts) will be more difficult than that of Muhammad Ali (persecuted by the federal government for the color of his skin, his stance against the war, and his religious conversion, and effectively banned from his sport for two years).


      Mr. Simmons tweets:


      I'm furious that my Tiger column distracted America from a detailed and only mildly creepy case for Johnny Orsino's Hall of Fame candidacy.
      3:12 PM Mar 5th via UberTwitter



      This is pretty standard stuff for Mr. Simmons. Make a fool of yourself comparing Tiger Woods (loss of advertisers) to Muhammad Ali (loss of income, threatened loss of freedom), so change the topic - to an admittedly trivial column about a trivial moment from a marginal catcher named John Orsino.


      Mr. Simmons resumes:



      KO, please know the feeling is mutual. You're my worst case scenario for my career in 12 yrs: a pious, unlikable blowhard who lives alone.
      3:13 PM Mar 5th via UberTwitter



      This assumes that Mr. Simmons' career now is where mine was twelve years ago (anchoring SportsCenter, then my own MSNBC political show, anchoring NBC Weekend Nightly News, writing a best-selling sports book, etc). In fact, this assumes that this is Mr. Simmons' career, which is remarkable. Also, anybody who could write as many words without saying anything of consequence really should throw around the word "blowhard" as frequently as he would a street sewer cover.


      Also, I don't think "pious" necessarily means what he thinks it does.


      Having made his point 50% of his words ago, Mr. Simmons still continues. As usual:



      I feel bad about saying Olbermann lives alone. I forgot about his cats.
      3:30 PM Mar 5th via UberTwitter



      Mr. Simmons apparently uses, for factual research, old parody sketches from "Saturday Night Live." I'm not surprised. That was Ben Affleck. Thanks for playing.


      I am surprised, however, to be able to shed some light on something that has been a prominent topic of late around the internet: the prospect that Mr. Simmons is leaving ESPN. Admittedly I am something of an authority on this process. Nonetheless, I was stunned to receive several emails from some of Mr. Simmons' bosses there, thanking me for pointing out the absurdity of, and the embarrassment to ESPN provided by, the Woods/Ali comparison.


      About five years ago, I guess, somebody said Tony Kornheiser was the most uncontrollable, unmanageable talent in the history of ESPN. I was, of course, crushed (although I believe I got honorable mention). When ESPN bosses are writing me for helping them about somebody they claim has now lapped Tony and myself, I am left to conclude only that if Mr. Simmons does leave ESPN, it may not be entirely of his own choosing.


      And we now encourage Mr. Simmons to again falme the comments section under various identities, to his heart's content. This is a managed site, and they can take 'em down. But enjoy yourself.



    (edited by BOSsportsfan34 on 8.3.10 2120)


Dude, I just posted this the post before.



(edited by BigDaddyLoco on 9.3.10 1628)
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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.39
For what it's worth it here was what Simmons said on Twitter ...

    Originally posted by Bill Simmons
    sportsguy33 I've said enough. This was not why I got into writing. RT @rgspiegel: Anxiously awaiting ur response to Olbermann...this should be good.
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.00
It's a sad day when two hyper-liberal middle-aged white men can't get along. I say this as a Bill Simmons fan.




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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.27
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    For what it's worth it here was what Simmons said on Twitter ...

      Originally posted by Bill Simmons
      sportsguy33 I've said enough. This was not why I got into writing. RT @rgspiegel: Anxiously awaiting ur response to Olbermann...this should be good.



It's the best thing for Simmons to do at this point. Olbermann's already done a good job of digging his own hole.

(edited by It's False on 9.3.10 1431)



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.27
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco


    Dude, I just posted this the post before.



    (edited by BigDaddyLoco on 9.3.10 1628)



Beat me by about 5 minutes it seems. I must have missed it while posting and editing mine.





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