The WWF likes to swerve ... how about we find out that the HHH-Steph fight was just a swerve? That HHH sent Linda the video himself as part of the plot to get Steph as the special guest ref in his match with Angle, and during that match the nWo comes out ... and as Steph claps they lay out Kurt Angle and HHH covers him as Steph counts to three with pleasure. Then on Raw they talk about how they swerved us, and they're more in love than ever before and planned all this for people to let their guards down.
This would lead to the assumingly desired HHH-Austin match (perhaps the nWo could help Austin beat Jericho, much to his chagrin earlier in the card) with HHH as the heel he prefers being. The one tanget to this is that it would make Angle a face, and he kind of floundered as a face the last time, but maybe this time they could do something with him.
Anyway, just a thought, since they could work with HHH's past with Hall and Nash and would let HHH be the champion figurehead rather than that "other" HHH. I don't think the nWo will be seen as a force unless the get the title, and i think I'd prefer this to any other option within that line of thinking.
I don't think having people jumping from heel to face is the best idea this close to Wrestlemania. I'm pretty sure that we are going to see Jericho V. Triple H at wrestlemania. And if any swerving goes down, it will be that the nWo was just using Vince to get into the WWF and they will dump him right away.
Okay, how about this slight variation: They help both Austin and HHH win, with both professing surprise that they were helped. That leads to an Austin-HHH match at WM with no one knowing just which side the nWo is on. They could do run-ins for each person's matches, maybe even be seen with each of them, leading to confusion as to which wrestler is nWo. And just to get that crowd heat, they can still kick the stuffing out of Rock. lol.
No, you're not crazy. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see that happen.
There are plenty of PPV swerves. Rock at SS 98, Austin last Wrestlemania, HHH when he rejoined DX and then joined the corporation again. They don't have to explain it there. They just end with J.R. going "oh no (whoever) is in league with (whoever). Why, by God, why?' Then they have a half-hour interview on RAW to explain.
You don't need more than a month these days to hype any sufficiently PPV main event with any two people on any side of the face/heel spectrum. Hell, you rarely need more than two weeks.
Farooq is the man so hit your knees and start praying!
Not only do I see this as a likely possibility, I said that yesterday In This Thread. HHH loves to run that whole "I'm a face....oh wait no I'm not" swerve, and I just don't see Chris Jericho, much as I'd love it, in the main at Wrestlemania.
Originally posted by HokienauticOkay, how about this slight variation: They help both Austin and HHH win, with both professing surprise that they were helped. That leads to an Austin-HHH match at WM with no one knowing just which side the nWo is on. They could do run-ins for each person's matches, maybe even be seen with each of them, leading to confusion as to which wrestler is nWo. And just to get that crowd heat, they can still kick the stuffing out of Rock. lol.
Awesome. Warrior/Savage at Summerslam 1992 all over again.
I was born in a manger, like that other guy. You know, he wore a hat?
They could have the nWo help Austin beat Jericho for the title, only that Austin doesn't seem to have been welcoming their help. The nWo invades Raw, holding up an nWo shirt for Austin. Austin comes out to face the nWo, when HHH also appears and asks Austin what the hell he's doing with the nWo. Austin tells him he didn't join the nWo, and he doesn't need anybody's help to whip HHH's ass at WM. HHH says that Austin is lying and that he did join the nWo. HHH points out that Austin turned his back on the WWF before when he joined the Alliance, and is obsessed with the title so much that he would sell his soul and join the nWo to keep from losing it to HHH, even if it meant putting the WWF out of business. Why? Because Austin's always been a coward. Austin gets pissed and a melee ensues, with the nWo trying to calm Austin down, saying to him we'll get HHH another time! HHH is cursing at Austin as officials try to hold him back.
The nWo would continue to cheer Austin on and show up during his matches while also tormenting HHH. At one point, HHH would get attacked by the nWo in the locker room, and accuse Austin as the one who ordered the attack on him.
This leads to the big payoff at WM where...wait a sec, that's Tatanka vs. Lex Luger from Summerslam 1994 all over again.
"Homosaywhat? Homosaywhat? Exactly!" -- Wayne Campbell, Wayne's World (1992)
Sorry, you are crazy. They have been building this Jericho/Steph vs HHH Wrestlemania 18 thing for too long. The only person that it would swerve would be the smarts and I am pretty sure Russo is still not in the WWF.
Well, I certainly wouldn't put it past Triple H to do a swerve, he's certainly been involved in any number of those before.
Swordsman, it's clear to me that you must've been an old WCW fan. The situation you described is just about exactly what the nWo was doing, circa 1996-97. I remember Luger and DDP getting into a feud in '97 because each man thought the other had joined the nWo. I had my money on DDP, actually-- but as it turned out, neither man did.
If they're going to play this right, the nWo needs to plant the seed of doubt into everyone's mind. Interfere in matches for no apparent logical reason. Help certain people one week, certain other people another week. That'd cause everyone to be pointing fingers at everyone else, swearing that that person was joining the nWo.
That's what made the nWo so exciting when it started out, because no one knew who was on who's side. And I don't think Vince brought back the nWo to fuck up the last chance he has of making serious money off the WCW brand name.
Swordsman, it's clear to me that you must've been an old WCW fan. The situation you described is just about exactly what the nWo was doing, circa 1996-97.
Actually, as I referred to in my post, I was thinking about that "did Luger sell out?" angle in '94 when it appeared that he joined Ted DiBiase's Million Dollar Corporation. Tatanka was the chief (no pun intended) accuser, and given that Luger was always a backstabber at least in character, it made it all the more probable. Of course, it turned out later it was Tatanka who sold out. There have been variations of this type of storyline that WCW has done, and strangely enough it was Luger who was the center of most of them.
"Homosaywhat? Homosaywhat? Exactly!" -- Wayne Campbell, Wayne's World (1992)
I don't think it will happen because that story leaves Stephanie with nothing particular to do (and Lord knows we can't have that). However, it's a great idea, and it finally gives something concrete to show how the nWo can destroy a promotion.
I seriously don't think they'll do much of anything. Why? There are no laws that say there has to be a belt involved in the main event. Anyway, my predicated Wrestlemania card: Outsiders def. Spazz, tag titles Awesometaker def. Rocky, again, simmer the feud HHH def. Jericho, wwf Championship Austin def. Hogan, main event. Obviously, not a complete card, but where I personally think the uppercard will be. And to do that, Spazz need to win tonight, as well as HHH and Jericho And they will, unless they do what they did to Angle last year, and make him look weak by having Austin run him over, then somehow move the title shot onto Rocky. In either case, they'll likely either do Hogan/Austin or Rock/Austin (again) as a main event.
I didn't think Coach & Snow were bad, but I didn't think they were good either. But I also realized that if I wasn't actively focusing on the quality of their commentary, I wouldn't have nearly as many complaints.