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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.81
The excitement for season 4 is palpable. And rightfully so. If you didn't watch, the biggest appeal of the show and/or only reason to watch it, the laid back giddiness/freedom/"fuck it"ness of the announcers and the talent, was gone for the most part as the show reverted to its usual format of boring diva search challenges and matches between guys who aren't over*. Paramount in this failing was the removal of Michael Cole for Todd Grisham -- not sure if Cole will be off the show for good or just selling the RKO this week, but I know that you can't have NXT without Michael Cole.

* although Daniel Bryan must be a great worker because he did a great job of getting the crowd into his tag match (and continued his inability to achieve victory in an NXT environment)

The only other aspect of NXT people were interested in was following Daniel Bryan and Kaval, but the theme for this season is placeholder all the way to the point where, according to the Observer, the good talent has been held back for a hypothetical season 5 that they want to have back on TV. I can't see how Byron Saxton doesn't waltz to an easy victory here. Everyone else was pretty indistinguishable so far except THE MAN WHO LOOKS LIKE A RAT, who was incredibly intriguing. A couple of the other guys were kind of irreverent. It's probably unfair to judge their idiosyncratic appeal based on week one since it's not until they get mic time and word association and stuff that an NXT contestant truly has the opportunity to make an impact like a Barrett, a Watson, an O'Neill, an Aksana, to coin the next "mustache" or "on top."
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Oh! Watch NXT4. I knew there was something I forgot to do Tuesday night. And again last night. And by "forgot", I mean, I didn't want to. Maybe I still will. I feel like I'm standing on the dock missing a boat I don't want to be on. But still, a boat.



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Since nobody had even mentioned it here, I actually talked myself into writing up a recap for the show since none of you had the stones to do it.

But then I only made it just about two minutes into the show when they revealed that Grisham was at the table and turned it off and deleted the literal page of notes I had written up based purely on the opening theme montage and the first two pro introductions, because, come on. I've put my time in here, I'm not working a Todd Grisham b-show.

    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Everyone else was pretty indistinguishable so far except THE MAN WHO LOOKS LIKE A RAT, who was incredibly intriguing.
Holy shit, yes! During the opening montage, I, too, noticed how this guy had such a weirdo ratface and it immediately made me want him to win the season. It didn't hurt that he was also rubbing his hands together like an old-timey cartoon villain. I actually felt bad that he's debuting now and not in the late '80s/early '90s where he could have been given an Evil Ratcatcher gimmick and be set for life.

If there's any justice in the world (wrestling entertainment), the back story on this guy will be that he is the son of the guy who used to help Bad News Brown pick out and capture his Harlem Sewer Rats, and we'll get a Wrestlemania match of The Ratman (w/Harlem Sewer Rats) vs. I don't know, let's say Goldust (w/Hornswoggle) and the rats will kill Hornswoggle off-camera, writing Hornswoggle out forever and freeing him up to go to TNA to join Immortal and feud with Jay Lethal a month after Lethal gets a clean non-title win over Jeff Hardy.

Other things I noticed during the two minutes I watched: Brodus Clay literally looks like someone started a Created Wrestler in a Smackdown vs. Raw game, set the body type to "Fat Guy" build and then got bored and hit the random button.

They should have given the Conor O'Brien name to whicever rookie was going to get Ted DiBiase Jr. as his pro so it could be part of Ted Jr.'s Legally Incapable Of Being Entertaining On TV tour. Because Ted Jr. is the worst.

When they were showing the "Rookie Poses While The Ghostly Image Of His Pro Is Frozen Next To Him" part of the opening credit montage, I literally had to pause the feed for a good 45 seconds trying to figure out that wasn't another rookie next to Byron Saxton and was, in fact, his pro. It then took another 15-20 seconds to realize it was Chris Masters/remember who Chris Masters was, despite reading here just a week ago that Chris Masters was one of the Pros.

All that said, I did make it far enough in to see Masters intro Saxton, and Masters has a decent announcer voice. Chimel better start working out.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.38
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    I can't see how Byron Saxton doesn't waltz to an easy victory here.


His backstage "moisture is the essence of beauty" talk with Masters was OK, but he completely goofed his way through the capture the flag challenge and fell over, and not even in an endearing/hilarious Titus O'Neill way. Though to be fair to him it was a ridiculous rule that you had to walk down the steps rather than just jumping lest you twist an ankle, and he at least treated the contest with the contempt that it deserved.

The announcers made the good point that Brodus Clay is memorable because he has his name on his t-shirt. Plus he's fat.

I also enjoyed Ratface McGee, but feel like Andy Samberg is most likely to win based on the performances so far.

Everything else seemed neither good nor terrible enough to be memorable.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.38
    Originally posted by 2P4E
    I also enjoyed Ratface McGee, but feel like Andy Samberg is most likely to win based on the performances so far.
Didn't one of the commentators call him "Adam Samberg" at one point? I got the impression that that was the name they WANTED to give him, but somebody in legal must have nixed it. (I guess "Andy Sandler" was too much of a tongue twister.)

They need to decide whether or not Maryse is a pro. I mean, they gave her a clipboard, for crying out loud! Also, where the heck was Vickie Guerrero? She's on the NXT site, I expect her on the NXT show.

I guess Truth being on NXT explains his absence on RAW? Will this be a recurring theme? That seems like a step backwards for him.

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This show did not make the rain fall, but it didn't make me want to be beaten with shovels. It was just kinda 'there.' None of this class seems to have the "It" factor of Barrett or the indie cred of Bryan or Kaval or the cute-nerd-appeal of AJ...speaking of...

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    Originally posted by 2P4E
    The announcers made the good point that Brodus Clay is memorable because he has his name on his t-shirt. Plus he's fat.


Also apparently they gave him that name because he used to be a bodyguard for Calvin Broadus (that's Snoop Dogg to you) and was a boxer (like the artist formerly known as Cassius Clay). At least he isn't still being positioned as a Giant Taz(z), like last week...

    Originally posted by CRZ
    Didn't one of the commentators call him "Adam Samberg" at one point? I got the impression that that was the name they WANTED to give him, but somebody in legal must have nixed it. (I guess "Andy Sandler" was too much of a tongue twister.)


I think he is more of a cross between Samberg and Ricky Ortiz, in my opinion...

As for the Rat King...yikes! Maybe Charlie Kelly can be his manager though.



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    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by 2P4E
      I also enjoyed Ratface McGee, but feel like Andy Samberg is most likely to win based on the performances so far.
    Didn't one of the commentators call him "Adam Samberg" at one point? I got the impression that that was the name they WANTED to give him, but somebody in legal must have nixed it. (I guess "Andy Sandler" was too much of a tongue twister.)

Also, an "Andy Sandler"sounds like something you ask for when you too jaded for a Rusty Venture to do anything for you.

He won the challenge by the by. And only blew a couple spots. Or was that terrible springboard, pause, backslide setup, fumble, pause, fumble, two count part of Mr. Monopoly's match?

This season is going to be brutal.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.80
I can understand that Cole's still selling the RKO, but putting Grisham on this show was a death knell. Grisham's way too serious and/or bland for a show that's proven not to give a crap anymore. And his attempts at humor are best left to SmackDown, where Cole and Striker can both mock him mercilessly. (Though God bless Josh for trying and putting Grisham in his place for making the obvious Conan O'Brien joke.)

I take back the gripes over Alberto Del Rio being on this show. At this point, he may be the only entertaining thing this show will have going for it, unless they give Cole his gong back.




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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.81
4:05 - "Dayton, Ohio ... heyyyyyyyyyy"

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Hey! This show isn't a trainwreck. It's just a regular train. That's not as funny, though there was some funny stuff interspersed throughout NXT4, like when the rat man was coming to the ring, Grisham fired off a zinger: "Matt Striker loves rats." On the road, I presume, when he's not home being his usual Craigslist kind of guy.

Grisham no sold winning a Slammy. "It's pretty cool." Pretty cool? Winning a Slammy was the greatest thing that ever happened to Owen Hart. It defined his WWF career, until that last thing that happened to him.

Maryse's facials were excellent during the opening parade of promos. She wasn't impressed by anyone, not even her own Rookie. Can Brodus be sexy? Non. Josh said Maryse isn't a Pro. She was probably just writing down her Christmas list on that clipboard.

Except for Johnny Curtis, this is the strongest crop of Rookies on the microphone ever.

And holy shit! The Elimination Challenge was actually relevant to being a WWE Superstar! They actually should know how to collapse a ladder, set it up, and climb it without hurting themselves. But I won't really be impressed unless they can identify WWE Superstars via their yearbook photos.

Grish got off another nice burn on Striker during the ladder segment: "Matt's not known for climbing the ladder of success in the WWE..."

After the metrosexual muscle man meet up of moisturizing between Masters and Byron, Grisham: "He knows it all, Josh." Josh: "Who's "he"?" Grisham: "Everyone." DON'T USE PRONOUNS!!

I like Brodus. He's my pick. WHO CAN STOP THE PATH OF CLAY?!

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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.20
No rainfall, Cole or babes?? I mean, if any one diva *could* make up for 10 it's Maryse but that's an impossible mission. Let her officially be a pro, did both Bellas have to split a vote? Did anyone care enough on that show to bring it up?

Saxton's really the only one with serious potential, although I do like Ratface bringing that up and trying to play the positive traits of a rat- sets up for the fans to chant things like "Ratface" at him. It's honestly a better name than Connor O'Brian or whatever. Samberg said mantastic so that gets a couple points.

Dolph's rookie didn't do the That Guy from Futurama gimmick I wanted, but he did get a pop from me for talking about his favourite game being Monopoly and wanting to own everyone/everything. That's the attitude of a shark! Still not close enough for NXT 4 to get a season pass. Vickie apparently is so traumatized over Kaitlyn winning season 3 (aka last week) that she's unwilling to appear on the show.

We had a classic NXT failure as one of the guys obviously beat Not That Guy's time but the idiots running the clock didn't hit stop fast enough. I can't remember who that is but he got MAXINE'D hard. Well, that's what happens to sheep.

I like that of course Alberto wouldn't give an introduction to a rookie and made Ricardo do it. He must never let that kid ride in his car.

Grisham should be fired publicly on Raw this Monday for no-selling the Slammy. Why aren't there as many Owens, Mizes and Morrisons out there? M&M carried them around at house shows.



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    Originally posted by Moss
    We had a classic NXT failure as one of the guys obviously beat Not That Guy's time but the idiots running the clock didn't hit stop fast enough. I can't remember who that is but he got MAXINE'D hard. Well, that's what happens to sheep.
I think the clock operator was equally slow on the draw with everybody, though - it's just that nobody paid any attention until the very last competitor. (It DID allow our commentators to confirm that, yes, Kerwin Silfes is still employed in some capacity by WWE.)

Taking me back to a point John snuck by earlier in the thread, I have to say that the revealing of the Vince rule about pronouns has really wrecked me watching WWE television - or at least listening to commentary. That's EXACTLY the sort of knowledge that someone with my special type of OCD shouldn't be aware. I am now painfully aware of every "he," "his" and "him" uttered during the course of the match - as well as the really pained use of names to avoid having to say said pronouns. I keep hoping it will pass, but it sticks around and nags me. THANKS A LOT NXT KAYFABE BREAKERS. There ARE some things I'm just not meant to know!



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Any particular reason (especially now that NXT is exclusive to WWE.com) why they can't simply get rid of NXT, and maybe even restore Heat and/or Velocity?



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    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    Any particular reason (especially now that NXT is exclusive to WWE.com) why they can't simply get rid of NXT, and maybe even restore Heat and/or Velocity?


Probably because NXT works. It allows them to utilize the FCW people, it gives the midcarders who are Pros more TV time (NXT is still on TV outside the US) and some of them became bigger stars because of it, and it actually has created some new stars. The Nexus, Daniel Bryan, Kaval, are all players on the main roster now. Hopefully Kaitlyn and AJ will be too. And they need new stars considering all the big names that were released or left in 2010 (Jericho, Batista, HBK, MVP, Matt Hardy, Mickie James, Maria, etc.) Plus NXT does spike traffic on wwe.com. There's really no reason NOT to continue NXT.

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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.20
Well, other than the fact that it's awful- but that's never stopped the WWE before.



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Superstars basically is a Velocity/Heat hybrid. It misses little things Velocity had like a unique and awesome announce team (though Tazz should soon be available or at least he wishes he would be) and the introduction/test run of new superstars, but most of those guys ended up in TNA and NXT (also, arguably, SmackDown) is one giant test run anyway.



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