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Since: 2.1.02
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#1 Posted on
So NWO is dead, right? So when Nash went down, the NWO and the "HHH to NWO" angle went down with him? That was quick and strange. Did they have to kill the entire stable? Is HBK back at home? Another WCW reset complete with Eric B. Great. I guess the NWO stuff will be on sale at the Shopzone.



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08

    Originally posted by dskillz
    I guess the NWO stuff will be on sale at the Shopzone.


You'd think so, but yet they still are charging 25 bucks for a WCW shirt.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.52
Makes you wonder, with Bischoff's return and all, that the still-high prices for a WCW shirt are a sign of things to come.

Naaaaah.



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#4 Posted on
I really can't complain. The WWE's version of the nWo sucked. Without Hogan, Nash and Hall being a heel force, (meaning NOT getting cheered for beating up the company's number one face, the Rock) they plain sucked. And to be honest with you, the nWo had hot streaks with no freakin' payoff. Sure, we got allusions to Goldust joining with them, and Triple H joining. But, there was never any payoff. The Triple H one, I can understand, but to be honest, what the hell has this crappy stable done on WWE? This stable should have died with WCW. Period. I think them hiring these three for the whole nWo thing was stupid, and basically,I think they realized the same thing. It doesn't matter anyways, no matter what they did it wouldn't have lived up to fan expectation and now that it's over, I can look back and say, "Yep, didn't live up to any expectation. They plain sucked." Period. Big Show will move on and have 1/2 star matches, Nash will rehabilitate and do who knows, and Michaels will take his ball and go home until WWE finds another way to work him onto these shows to annoy the piss out of me. nWo is over, and I don't feel bad at all, and I hope none of you do either. As for the merchandise, I wish I'd have gotten' the 4 Life shirt now at King of the Ring, dammit! I don't have ANY nWo shirts and really wanted one. Oh, well.



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#5 Posted on
They didn't have much of a choice - Hogan got too popular to play a heel, Hall remained Scott Hall, Nash remained Kevin Nash. All three are gone. Shawn Michaels couldn't wrestle, the Big Show couldn't wrestle well, X-Pac was X-Pac. That wasn't much of a stable that anyone was going to give a fuck about.

Hey, I was sure that HHH was going to join up with the remants and they'd sell it as the 100th installment of D-Generation X, so just be thankful for small favors. (Although I wouldn't mind seeing HBK and HHH together again...)



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#6 Posted on
I will admit that even before Bischoff showed up (and ESPECIALLY after), I was waiting for an 11:05 nWo group run-in, with Bischoff or Michaels reciting the old Belushi line ("NOTHING is over until WE decide it is!") and a new member or two.

Time shall tell.





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#7 Posted on
Considering that the combined ages of Nash, Hall and Hogan is close to 140 years - I don't see how anyone could say they were ALIVE to begin with. :)




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#8 Posted on
What pisses me off is how abruptly they ended the angle. I wanted it to die just like most of you, but damn, do they have to confuse the hell out of the fans in the process? There wasn't even an explanation...

Would it have been so hard to wait ONE DAMNED WEEK to Vengeance and let Booker beat Big Show in a "if the nWo loses, it dies" stipulation match? At least Booker would have been credited with finally killing the thing.

Good lord.



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#9 Posted on

    Originally posted by Parts Unknown
    What pisses me off is how abruptly they ended the angle. I wanted it to die just like most of you, but damn, do they have to confuse the hell out of the fans in the process? There wasn't even an explanation...

    Would it have been so hard to wait ONE DAMNED WEEK to Vengeance and let Booker beat Big Show in a "if the nWo loses, it dies" stipulation match? At least Booker would have been credited with finally killing the thing.

    Good lord.




That is exactly my point. Is it that hard to write an ending for the NWO? It seems lazy to just say, "NWO is dead, bye now".



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#10 Posted on
I like the way they ended it. But hey, I like sticking needles in my anus as well.



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#11 Posted on
Killing off what was supposed to be a major angle with no word of explanation?

yep, Bishoff's back

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Since: 9.7.02
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#12 Posted on
the way they ended it sucks, it's true!
This version of the nWo wasn't as fierce, but I marked out for them when they returned. I was a huge fan of the nWo back in the day, especially Scott Hall. The nWo without Hall just ain't the same in my opinion.
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#13 Posted on
Just think about it for a second. The WWF went into an "exciting new direction" with the roster split, then they were "moving on" past the Austin walkout, and now they're "entering a new era" with the NWO being dropped and the GMs coming in. 3 different directions for the company in just over a 4 month period. Does this sound like WCW in it's dying days to anyone else?

(edited by Fazzle on 16.7.02 1715)


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Since: 9.7.02
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#14 Posted on
it definitely sounds like the last days of WCW... eerie!
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#15 Posted on
Of the guys that were in the nWo, Hall was the best of them. He had the mic skills, he could actually wrestle, and he had "it". The crowd ate from this guy's hand for years in WCW.
I agree with Fazzle. RAW has changed directions so many times since the split, it looks exactly like Nitro before WCW went away. Still, if this is done correctly, I think there is big money coming. Of course, we all thought that with the Invasion...




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#16 Posted on
I don't know if it sounds like WCW, but it sure as hell sounds to casual fans like the company is swinging in the dark right now and has ZERO idea what to do. Roster splits, stars walking out, ruthless agression, angles here one week and gone the next, now Bischoff. Personally, I would be embarassed if I were Vince McMahon. Just pick one thing and GO WITH IT!

The NWO started out good. It brought a lot of casual fans and former WCW fans like myself back into the fold and back to watching WWE. But it all started going downhill after Wrestlemania. (Why turn Hogan face right away? Just because fans cheered him? Hell, they cheered the NWO in the WCW too, but that doesn't mean you turn your hottest heels into faces! Sheesh.) It proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that McMahon's EGO over people and concepts he has already PROVEN he's beaten was just too big to allow the NWO to work, and Shawn Michales was just too little (hello! he can't wrestle!) too late. McMahon is the only person to blame for the fall of the NWO.

Now it remains to be seen whether Bischoff can keep the casual fans watching. So far McMahon's track record is that he too will be a flop, but let's at least watch this train wreck and see.

DMC





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#17 Posted on
Vince proclaiming the NWO dead is a sure sign that they aren't. I'm not a fan of the NWO, but I could get interested if the current remnants of NWO reform with HHH as DX, and then feud with a new NWO when Nash returns in a few months.

If not for anything else than to watch the internet reaction when they start fighting over who gets X Pac. (insert your own joke here).

At the very least, it'd set up HHH vs. Nash, which would mean that they'd be out of the main event picture for a month or two.

I won't be shocked if HBK is the new GM of SmackDown!.

But then again, I'm part of what seems to be the one unified voice raising from the interenet today...........'ANYBODY BUT STEPHANIE!!!!'.

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Since: 9.7.02
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#18 Posted on
I was hoping that the nWo angle would have Triple H refusing to join, setting up a Wrestlemania match against HBK! Ahhh well.... as Aerosmith said- Dream on, dream on...
DMC
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Since: 8.1.02
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#19 Posted on
The REALLY stupid thing about this is that Bischoff's main "thing" WAS the NWO---he was the one who led them, who pushed them, etc. What kind of "evil organization" stable do you give him? Either D-X is on the way back, or Scott Steiner and the remnants of the NWO will reform into something new to feud with HHH. Whatever happens MAY be fun to watch, but PLLLLLLEASE!!! WWE, make it last longer than a few weeks!!! If you can shove Brock Lesnar down our throats week in week out and force us to accept him, then you can do the same with some new evil stable led by Bischoff. Sure its an old gimmick but at least it's SOMETHING.

DMC



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#20 Posted on
Maybe next week Stevie Ray and Bryan Clarke will be back as the NWO B-Team.



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