Anyone else watch? I think it's absolutely one of the best TNA PPVs I've seen.
The worst matches (Sabin/Sharkboy/Dutt vs. Diamond/David Young/Skipper and 3LK vs. Kip James/Monty Brown) were still watchable. Diamond and Skipper, though, are really floundering without their tag partners -- and any stable that includes David Young is immediately suspect.
Some matches were better than expected -- Hoyt vs. Abyss was really entertaining. Hoyt's changed his ring gear and looks a lot less like a Test clone now -- plus his Van Terminator was pretty nice (that's where the guy jumps off the turnbuckle and flies across the ring to kick the chair into the other guy's face, right?). The main event (Jarrett & Rhino vs. Raven & Sabu) also falls into the better-than-expected category for me -- really fun chaotic brawl with a hot finish.
Match of the night was AJ Styles vs. Samoa Joe, unsuprisingly. Styles was brave and heroic and actually broke through Joe's indifferently disdainful demeanor, causing him some frustration, which I haven't seen much from Joe (in TNA). Joe ended up killing Styles pretty dead, though.
Scary bump of the night: Jerry Lynn, from the apron, suplexing Sean Waltman out of the ring and FLAT DOWN onto the floor. I was pretty sure we'd never see Waltman take a bump like that ever again.
Naturals & AMW vs. Team Canada was a little dissapointing, given what they're capable of. Austin Aries vs. Christopher Daniels was a a little bit of a letdown, too, but maybe only because I'd never seen Aries before and was hoping he would blow me away (which he didn't).
I felt like I got my money's worth.
(edited by Karlos the Jackal on 15.8.05 0430) Last 5 movies seen: Sin City - Battleship Potemkin - My Brilliant Career - Kansas City Bomber - Harvey
TNA keeps putting on great shows month after month. Each one I've been able to catch has been well worth it and most times has even been better then the WWE pay per view from the same month. After this show, SUMMERSLAM better not suck because it's got some damn fine matches to beat.
As great as Samoa Joe/AJ Styles was, I was actually more into the Waltman/Jerry Lynn match. Jerry Lynn was one of my favorite ECW guys and Waltman used to be great back in the days when he could wrestle. Helmsley deserves a pat on the back for getting Waltman into rehab and Waltman deserves all the credit in the world for getting himself out of the mess he was in. Waltman seems to have really got himself together again and he should be given the chance to come back to the WWE. I think he deserves the chance to shoe the larger audience that he can still put on great matches like he did back when he was the 123 Kid. He really proved he's back last night and that he can still go with the best of them. Damn, THAT was just a really good back and forth match from two guys who you'd think were past their prime.
Samoa Joe is just awesome. I Loved his line to Douglas about respecting him by not slapping the piss out of him. AJ Styles might have entered the 'Jericho' phase of his TNA career by putting over the new guys... not the Samoa Joe needed it or anything.
The 3LK match was kinda like scrambled eggs. It was messy and sloppy but it still tasted good. Konnan used to be cool when he first popped into WCW back when he wore the pink tassels and tights. I don't like the newer Konnan as much but his Rolling Thunder is a cool move. When are we gonna get some BG James/Kip James matches? They'll have to have a few before the inevitable re-teaming, right.
Originally posted by CerebusAJ Styles might have entered the 'Jericho' phase of his TNA career by putting over the new guys... not the Samoa Joe needed it or anything.
I don't think Styles is going to putting over a lot of guys, I think they just don't have a tv show right now so the only people watching are the people who already like Styles, so a loss is not going to hurt him. When their tv show starts again I would expect him to win a lot more so that new viewers can get a look at him. As for Joe, I do think he needed being put over. I don't think all TNA fans had necessarily seen Joe wrestle before, and while they've put him over well so far, putting him over Styles makes him instantly credible to the TNA fans. I just hope they somehow hold off on the Samoa Joe vs. Christopher Daniels match for Bound for Glory since that is a potential match of the year candidate.
Plus everyone should be losing to Samoa Joe for a long while. They should book him as the Taz who can work and have him steamroll everyone for like a year. He should obliterate Raven for the NWA title and defend it against the Styleses and Danielses in great PPV main events each month. For longterm, depending on who catches on the most, they can either go with A.J. continually chasing him to the big win, or build up to Joe vs. Monty Brown in some kind of showdown. Unfortunately all of that would be contingent on Jeff Jarrett mysteriously vanishing.
This looked like a really good card, and from what I've read it turned out to be as good as expected. In fact, everything I've heard about TNA since they lost TV and ditched Dusty as booker (who is now - Tenay and D'amore?) has been very encouraging. I'm excited to check out their new show when they debut on Spike TV because WWE just has not been doing it for me at all the last two months or so. I still don't really like the idea of Jarrett (and to a lesser extent Raven and Sabu) being in the main event, but I'm definately looking forward to seeing what they're doing with the undercard. A lineup with TNA and The Ultimate Fighter could definately turn into must watch TV.
I have to echo the sentiments of most of the other posts here. It was a great show, though I don't think it was quite as great as Slammiversary and No Surrender were. No Surrender which I thought was TNA's best PPV of the year so far. But its nice that TNA is actually giving us PPV's that are worth the money and better than their weekly shows. And PPV's with the proper more sensical finishes to the matches.
One thing you can say about the show is that NONE of the matches actively sucked. Even the matches that weren't good or great were pretty watchable as Karlos said.
The thing I'm worried about the most right now is that it looks like they are building up to Raven vs. Jarrett at Bound For Glory. I really hope they don't go in that direction.
Waltman really seems to be motivated again and is wrestling some of his best matches in recent memory.
I don't think Styles is in the Jericho phase of his career, he's TNA's top dog, and Joe winning was the proper finish to the match. Ending his hot streak right now would be a big mistake. Now we've got a huge match coming up at Unbreakable between Daniels and Joe for the X Division title.
"Don't compare my arm...to your cheap arm!" -Edward Elric
Jeff Jarrett hasn't been this interesting since about 1994. I actually like him in the role of the super paranoid heel. His promos play off the fact that everyone who followed TNA at all knows that he was on top forever but they're not inside to the point that they don't make sense in the kayfabe world.
I don't mind guys like Raven and Jarrett in the Main Events when they're actually putting a lot of work into the undercard storylines. As opposed to recent WWE and pre-D'Amore TNA, every undercard match felt like it served a purpose. Even the opening six man match had the Simon Diamond/Elix Skipper thing in it.
I hope that the Carters stick with the current booking team and give them at least a few months of the Spike TV run to produce. TNA should get a pretty good boost by sharing a block of TV with Ultimate Fighter too.
"When did they pass a law that says the people who make my sandwich have to be wearing gloves? I'm not comfortable with this. I don't want glove residue all over my food; it's not sanitary. Who knows where these gloves have been?" - George Carlin
Yes. That's what it is. That's what it has always been. That's all it will ever be. Vince's job is to make sure the company doesn't go under. He does this by thinking up "gimmicks" to get the ratings up. Welcome to Professional Wrestling.