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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.19
    Originally posted by madiq
    Let's also remember that WWE saw fit to base two or three weeks of Confidential to character assassination, which gives him (a) fan "interest," whether good or bad(edited by madiq on 8.11.03 1332)



Uh, how many people actually watch Confidential? Let's not place "people who appeared in Confidential Segments" in the "will generate fan buzz" category. Otherwise Tully Blanchard and Ivory's Mom will have to be employed.

And put me in the school of thought that believes anything TNA does as irrelevant until they get weekly national television.



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.15
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
      Originally posted by madiq
      Let's also remember that WWE saw fit to base two or three weeks of Confidential to character assassination, which gives him (a) fan "interest," whether good or bad(edited by madiq on 8.11.03 1332)



    Uh, how many people actually watch Confidential? Let's not place "people who appeared in Confidential Segments" in the "will generate fan buzz" category. Otherwise Tully Blanchard and Ivory's Mom will have to be employed.

    And put me in the school of thought that believes anything TNA does as irrelevant until they get weekly national television.


True but remember they hyped those episodes on RAW and Smackdown and even showed a couple of the pieces on Smackdown. Luger's name was all over those where they HIGHLIGHTED the initial theories about his involvement by law enforcement, his drug bust, and his abuse charges.

Luger will not sell for AJ Styles or make him look good because he's never done it in his career. He's just there so they could drag Sting out of exile again.
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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.07
    Originally posted by Davros
    Well, I believe Lex Luger won Wrestler of the Year in PWI in 1997 after he beat Hollywood HH. Say what you want about Apter mags, but I think in that year, there were plenty of people that agreed.

    1991, his comeuppance as the unstoppable WCW World's Heavyweight Champion, and in 1996, he co-held the World Television Title and WCW Tag Team title.

    Oh, he also was the talk of the industry when he appeared on the first Monday Nitro, nine days after he left the WWF nin 1995.

    1991, match of the year recipient when he and Sting took on the Steiner Bros.

    1987, one of the pioneers of War Games: The Match Beyond.

    AND he was rookie of the year in 1986.




And at one point, Bam Bam Bigelo headlined a Wrestlemania.
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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.82
    Originally posted by StaggerLee
      Originally posted by Davros
      Well, I believe Lex Luger won Wrestler of the Year in PWI in 1997 after he beat Hollywood HH. Say what you want about Apter mags, but I think in that year, there were plenty of people that agreed.

      1991, his comeuppance as the unstoppable WCW World's Heavyweight Champion, and in 1996, he co-held the World Television Title and WCW Tag Team title.

      Oh, he also was the talk of the industry when he appeared on the first Monday Nitro, nine days after he left the WWF nin 1995.

      1991, match of the year recipient when he and Sting took on the Steiner Bros.

      1987, one of the pioneers of War Games: The Match Beyond.

      AND he was rookie of the year in 1986.




    And at one point, Bam Bam Bigelo headlined a Wrestlemania.


With Lawrence Taylor.



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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.50

    And at one point, Bam Bam Bigelo headlined a Wrestlemania.


At about that same time Bam Bam Bigalow was the best big man in wrestling. It's not his fault that Vince thought he'd be best used against L.T.



(edited by BigDaddyLoco on 9.11.03 0230)
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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.00
Alright then all you supersmark jackNashes, where the hell did all of you get your wrestling info from in the 80's? WWF Magazine? The local news? ESPN? The bah gawd internet? How many of you are even old enough to remember what an Apter Mag was, read one, and for that matter bought into the kayfabe? Because if you didn't, you are all a bunch of to smark for your own good buffoons.

Further more, I love how everyone's on this Luger bashing tip. At least the guy has the guts to get back in the ring and try to prove himself. That's the problem with all you sarcastic cool guys. You fail to see what a product is TRYING to do, and last time I checked, WWE pretty much has the market cornered as far as talent goes due to their big money, so TNA has to get what they can get with what they've got.
Even if it's a former World Heavyweight/U.S./Television and Tag Team Champion, Match of the year winner, wrestler of the year, rookie of the year, and yes, a fucking legend in his own right. Lex made people mark out. And whether you cool guys like it or not, and no matter how much you insult him, his career or his fans, NWA:TNA will give him one more chance to do what ALL workers want to do.
Entertain.

That's right. The Total Package, Lex Luger. Reply if need be, but the point has been made. Consider this thread-
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.65
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
      Originally posted by madiq
      Let's also remember that WWE saw fit to base two or three weeks of Confidential to character assassination, which gives him (a) fan "interest," whether good or bad



    Uh, how many people actually watch Confidential? Let's not place "people who appeared in Confidential Segments" in the "will generate fan buzz" category. Otherwise Tully Blanchard and Ivory's Mom will have to be employed.
They ran at least one of those segments on "Smackdown" as well.
    Originally posted by Davros

See...when you deliberately TRY to get banned, I usually wait a few messages. But don't get me wrong; we can't WAIT to see what you'll attempt next!



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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.15
Oh shit, I'm sorry, I forgot that Lex Luger was in it for the love of the game. You're right, he must be coming to NWATNA to prove his worth. They couldn't be doing a favor for Sting so that Luger can get a rare payday. Naaaah, he must want to prove that Lex Luger is still a super duper wrestler.

You're still pumping him up with FAKE accolades selected by a couple of writers on the basis of which promotion let them use their pictures.

Yeah, Lex Luger had some great matches over a decade ago with some of the greatest pro wrestlers on the planet carrying his chiseled abs. It's 2003, almost 2004, and if you think Lex Luger has ANYTHING to bring to the table, I hope you enjoy what walks down the ramp this Wednesday night in Nashville.
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#29 Posted on
Luger had a sort of a reputation of going thru the motions during matches, but one that really sticks out in my mind was his match against (I believe it was Palumbo) a few years ago on Nitro. He no-sold nearly all of Palumbo's offense, and basically looked lost throughout the entire duration of the match. If WCW was smart (and we all know they weren't) they should have fined or suspended Luger for that type of phoning-it-in, "I don't give a fuck" type of performance. And I agree with fuelinjected, a bunch of fake accolades written by the biggest mark mag in the business, doesn't qualify him as being a quote-unquote "legend"
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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.34
Far from a Luger apologist, it seems like I've been thrust into the role. So let me make a few points:

1. Lex Luger, from a business perspective, is a draw, or at least according to TNA standards, ESPECIALLY on the national stage. To most casual fans, the name Lex Luger brings instant recognition, maybe even more than Sting. Luger is very clearly a bigger draw than Dusty Rhodes, who though admittedly far better on the mic at putting guys over verbally, was in a WORLD TITLE MATCH. Using Lex Luger in that capacity is far more effective at building credibility.

Now listen, I'm not saying the guy has a rabid fanbase, but what I am saying is this: Those among us who consider themselves sorta into wrestling (non-smarks) often ask about former WCW stars, and Lex Luger's name often comes up. Jeff Jarrett, notsomuch...

2. Lex has always been in tremendous condition, so he won't look out of shape and over the hill like some older WCW "big names." This is important for Luger's persona; he's never been the technical marvel, so he just has to pull off his 1990s offense. And as Hogan has proven, sometimes if the fans are into you, the 1990s offense is enough.

3. Luger is motivated. He has no leverage for earning a WWE contract. He can probably draw in Japan, but domestically, this is Luger's best chance to return to the good side of wrestling fans. And for all guys who are anticipating a guy who no-sells, phones it in, and acts like a primadonna, remember: the situation in TNA is much different from that in WCW. There is no guaranteed contract, no WWF to jump ship to, and no culture of abuse of power. The guy has every reason to keep his nose clean, and I think it's far more likely that he will rather than won't.

4. Luger can have good matches. I'll say it again. He CAN. So if he plays ball, he can do a whole lot of good for TNA. If he doesn't play ball, he goes bye-bye. But they've got to take the chance...
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.86
    Originally posted by Whitebacon
      Originally posted by StaggerLee
        Originally posted by Davros
        Well, I believe Lex Luger won Wrestler of the Year in PWI in 1997 after he beat Hollywood HH. Say what you want about Apter mags, but I think in that year, there were plenty of people that agreed.

        1991, his comeuppance as the unstoppable WCW World's Heavyweight Champion, and in 1996, he co-held the World Television Title and WCW Tag Team title.

        Oh, he also was the talk of the industry when he appeared on the first Monday Nitro, nine days after he left the WWF nin 1995.

        1991, match of the year recipient when he and Sting took on the Steiner Bros.

        1987, one of the pioneers of War Games: The Match Beyond.

        AND he was rookie of the year in 1986.




      And at one point, Bam Bam Bigelo headlined a Wrestlemania.


    With Lawrence Taylor.


And he lost. Ahem....continue.
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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.33
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    Uh, how many people actually watch Confidential? Let's not place "people who appeared in Confidential Segments" in the "will generate fan buzz" category. Otherwise Tully Blanchard and Ivory's Mom will have to be employed.

    And put me in the school of thought that believes anything TNA does as irrelevant until they get weekly national television.
I try to watch Confidential on a semi-regular basis. I find it to be a really enjoyable program. Velocity and Confidential make for two hours of solid entertainment.

But in regards of Luger, I wish him the best of luck in TNA. The expression Dixie gave certainly holds water, as Luger does have history in the years, being involved with the Horsemen, Luger, etc. etc. For them to call him up for a few shots, I think it's classy, whether the fans think so or not. However, he is old...who knows if he can actually move or sell moves? I believe that any opportunity to recall the past and celebrate where we came from (as wrestling fans, or the wrestling sport as a whole) should be appreciated.



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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.00
Well, I knew I wasn't crazy for defending Luger. Even Tammy Sytch, some who was ACTUALLY ON THE INSIDE OF THE BIZ seems to agree (ala Hyatte's news report on 411). Without me even having to do so, my point was proven.

And as far as deliberately trying to get banned? Well opinions and perceptions belong to you and you alone. Sorry you misinterpreted, but I can't do anything about that dear. Back to my regularly scheduled whatever.
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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.22
"Well, I knew I wasn't crazy for defending Luger. Even Tammy Sytch, some who was ACTUALLY ON THE INSIDE OF THE BIZ seems to agree (ala Hyatte's news report on 411). Without me even having to do so, my point was proven.

And as far as deliberately trying to get banned? Well opinions and perceptions belong to you and you alone. Sorry you misinterpreted, but I can't do anything about that dear. Back to my regularly scheduled whatever."

I thought you'd crawled under a rock, never to return to this thread. And using Tammy "Crack Whore Who's Been Fired From EVERY Major Promotion In The Past Five Years As Well As Opening Up A Porno Site With Missy Freaking Hyatt" Sytch as a back-up for your insane ramblings doesn't do you any favours, pardner. If Luger fails, how does a no-hoper like her have a shot in hell of ever working again?

Man, I really hope TNA brings in Jake Roberts next-I'd love to hear your OJ-like defence for THAT one.



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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.00
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#36 Posted on
    Originally posted by Davros
    Well, I knew I wasn't crazy for defending Luger. Even Tammy Sytch, some who was ACTUALLY ON THE INSIDE OF THE BIZ seems to agree

I've read a lot of things by a lot of very talented writers over the years, but that just may be the funniest statement I've ever seen about professional wrestling.



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