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So recently I've been working independent wrestling shows in the Ohio valley as the media component of the show. Whether it be working sound, announcing, or photography I'm heavily involved in helping shows right now.

That being said I've been around Bobby Fulton & he's ready to take on Vince for back royalties from the tape libraries he's purchased to make DVD's also run the WWE Network on.

http://wrestlingnews.co/​wrestling-​legend-​rips-​vince-​mcmahon-​over-​unpaid-​royalties-​asks-​fans-​to-​call-​wwe-​sponsors/​ also other sources...

http://nodq.com/wwe/426361092.shtml


    Originally posted by Bobby Fulton & WrestlingNews.co

    Vince sure is ripped. He's a master of ripping people off, like all the wrestlers like me from the territory days. He stole our likeness, who we are, and our intellectual property of our matches. WWE has admitted they don't have any of our signed releases most don't get a dime for DVD's sold in major stores world wide and online or The WWE Network. Come on Vince really man up pay up. Scott Ammon said you paid a lot for libraries of video from World Class, Mid South, UWF and other regions.
    Please share this and let WWE know its time to pay up!



I guess it's the you & what army approach? Anyone?


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He was paid by all those promotions for his matches. Its not Vince's fault those promotion owners and the wrestlers themselves undervalued the future value of the footage.

Does he have a contract that says he is owed a penny by the promoter/owner of the tape library, which is Vince by way of succession?

Fulton can rant all he wants, but Jerry McDevitt would get a lawsuit over this thrown out without getting out of bed.



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Read it and weep, fella


    Originally posted by Horsemen4ever
    He was paid by all those promotions for his matches. Its not Vince's fault those promotion owners and the wrestlers themselves undervalued the future value of the footage.

    Does he have a contract that says he is owed a penny by the promoter/owner of the tape library, which is Vince by way of succession?

    Fulton can rant all he wants, but Jerry McDevitt would get a lawsuit over this thrown out without getting out of bed.
This was my initial response to this story too, until I remembered that Jesse Ventura sued WWF/E for something very similar a few years ago and WON!

I cant remember what it was about Jesse's case that let him win, though. Whatever he had going for him, this other dude don't got it.



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    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
      Originally posted by Horsemen4ever
      He was paid by all those promotions for his matches. Its not Vince's fault those promotion owners and the wrestlers themselves undervalued the future value of the footage.

      Does he have a contract that says he is owed a penny by the promoter/owner of the tape library, which is Vince by way of succession?

      Fulton can rant all he wants, but Jerry McDevitt would get a lawsuit over this thrown out without getting out of bed.
    This was my initial response to this story too, until I remembered that Jesse Ventura sued WWF/E for something very similar a few years ago and WON!

    I cant remember what it was about Jesse's case that let him win, though. Whatever he had going for him, this other dude don't got it.


Jesse had a better contract.
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This isn't entirely unlike all of the old blues musicians who got paid paltry sums by recording studios who proceeded to make millions of dollars off their work. From what I can see, none of them ever successfully recuperated any of them money. Bobby Fulton does have an advantage of being white, but he's presumably still poor which negates a sizable portion of that advantage.

The one blues legend who did come out on top was Willie Dixon who sued Led Zeppelin for appropriating his music. They settled out of court, so there's no telling if he would have won, but it opens up an interesting possibility. Could wrestlers who innovate spots sue wrestlers who have profited off of stealing them? Sure, stealing moves is how the business works, but the same held true for the blues back in the old days. (I doubt many of the old boys are keen to fuck over the new workers, but it might be an in toward getting to Vince.)

Does WWE still offer the free rehab for all former talent policy? The last I recall hearing about it was when Maven took advantage of it after being arrested in 2012, but I imagine it's the sort of thing that most people keep on the down low. I think the best chance they have is getting a ruling that since the WWE is making money from their likeness, that makes them WWE talent, making them eligible for the program. The number of retired wrestlers who never appeared in WWE who could benefit from rehab is probably large enough to be depressing.
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If they're "independent contractors", and by all definitions they are, then their profit comes from them performing their jobs. A roofer doesn't get a check every time it rains and people enjoy their work. (Probably a shitty analogy, but you get the point)

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Plenty of artists who work as independent contractors, however, still get royalty payments. Granted, it's worked into their contracts, but there have also been cases of rights/royalties granted later because new mediums arose that couldn't be accounted for when original contracts were signed.
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Maybe he just sees it as two completely seperate things. I don't see how the actions of Stone Cold Steve Austin, the professional wrestling character, should reflect on Steve Williams, the person.
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