I have said that before and I agree with flair running the mic and batista backing it up it would fun to watch plus with orton on his own could make for some great match's there is alot of talent with those 3 HHH being the 3rd could be some great matchs and throw cena in there
I'd say Storm, but his columns are far more entertaining than his matches. Yeah, he got good heel heat with the Team Canada and Unamericans gimmicks, but the anti-USA routine has a very limited shelf life, and almost ANYONE can get heat by coming out and bashing America.
Joining the Matt Hardy chorus, I'd say he's probably the most disproportionate, in terms of potential versus push.
And John Cena should be main-eventing pay-per-views by the summer, if not sooner. Anything less than that, and they're gonna waste his momentum.
I still think Rob Van Dam could draw money if they got behind him. His fan base has shrunk, but has never gone away. All he needs is a big win or a big program. Put him and Eddie in a face/face ladder match for the belt at a PPV and it could work. Or turn him heel and align him with Heyman.
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Storm's never going to get any higher than the midcard, simply because his in-ring charisma is negligable. I'm not talking about mic work or gimmicks or whatever, I just don't think he's very adept at playing an effective in-ring face or heel. There's no variation between the styles. I mean, he could get pops/heat for crazy dances/bashing America, but as soon as he steps through those ropes and wrestles like a neutral player the heat evaporates.
I'll add my name to the Matt Hardy wishlist. If they're smart, they'll have him reveal his attack on Edge last year tonight on raw, then when Edge come sout for revenge Rhyno attacks him from behind and beats him down. Rhyno can play the Mattitude Bodyguard, and the two can have a nice match at Backlash which Edge can win handily. It underlines Edge as an ME player, but it also gets Matt valuable screentime and a program with an upper-carder, which could be used as a stepping stone to a greater midcard role.
Originally posted by oldschoolheroStorm's never going to get any higher than the midcard, simply because his in-ring charisma is negligable. I'm not talking about mic work or gimmicks or whatever, I just don't think he's very adept at playing an effective in-ring face or heel. There's no variation between the styles. I mean, he could get pops/heat for crazy dances/bashing America, but as soon as he steps through those ropes and wrestles like a neutral player the heat evaporates.
The problem's really simple...the best guys, and this is either by virtue of pre-fab entrace or natural charisma, but the best guys just have a mystique about them. Hogan had it with the arm-waving and the crazy-eye 1000 yard stare on the way to the ring...Flair had it with the music and the "I'm better than you" slow strut...Austin had it with the glass and the "I'm-a comin to whoop you" walk, etc and so forth. There's 100 examples I could put there.
I like Lance Storm, but like you said, when he comes out and no matter what they give him to do (be serious for a moment, bash America, dance, etc) he just has the presence of being just another guy. Even with Benoit it took 4 years' (longer if you count the ECW and WCW years) worth of "I'm better than you...I'm better than EVERYBODY" and then having to go out and PROVE IT every time out for him to be considered to be a top guy.
Even if they give Lance Storm the best hook in the world, I doubt he's going to be seen as anything else but just another guy. But some guys just aren't main eventers and being a go-to guy in the midcard and being known as a solid hand isn't the worst thing in the world. It still allows for him to put food on the table for his family and most likely there'll always be a place for him as long as he wants to have it.
Originally posted by oldschoolheroIf they're smart, they'll have him reveal his attack on Edge last year tonight on raw, then when Edge come sout for revenge Rhyno attacks him from behind and beats him down. Rhyno can play the Mattitude Bodyguard, and the two can have a nice match at Backlash which Edge can win handily.
I usually HATEHATEHATE fantasy booking, but this seems like a pretty neat idea to me.
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This is a good thread because it made me realize something: I went and looked at both rosters and could find NO ONE I thought was underpushed! I guess this really is a great year for wrestling. For the first time in a long time, I really like the way things are.
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Originally posted by Spaceman SpiffHow is Batista "overpushed"? Yeah, he's a member of Evolution, but whenever an Evolution member takes a pin, it's invariably Batista. He's a 2-time tag title winner, but that was only because: 1st time) they wanted Evo to have all the belts, and 2nd time) RVD & Booker were being sent to SD. And, for what it's worth, Batista is at least the equal of Orton on the mic (personally, I'd say he's a bit better than Orton).
Maybe "overpushed" is a bad choice of words on my part. Maybe "already getting pushed, thus is disqualified for being underpushed." I really just don't care for Batista. He's got the look, yeah, but I think he's a boring wrestler, charisma-less in the ring, and I've never heard him talk so I can't comment on that one. The only great match I've seen him in was the one at Wrestlemania XX, but that was all Flair and Rock.
Hey, I got my wish, sort of. Lance Storm was on RAW tonight, and....
It's official! Lance is now the most under-pushed talent on the roster. Remember how on the sitcom The Facts of Life all the girls eventually got fatter than the girl who was cast as the fat girl? That same cruel irony played itself out tonight when one of the most boring workers in WWE went over the guy who's gimmick is to be boring. I can see them wanting to get Rhyno over as a monster now that he's on RAW, but did they have to feed Lance to him? Poor Lance. Poor poor Lance. He comes out, gets started on a character-changing promo, and is completely squashed. And for a squash, Lance's workrate was about six times better than the guy who squashed him. Oh, poor Lance!
I try to weigh the pros and cons though:
1) PRO: Lance gets to be on RAW for a change. 2) PRO: Looks like Lance is turning heel. 3) CON: Lance gets fed to Rhyno in a squash.
Somehow, I don't think the two pros out-weigh the one con. Oh, poor, poor, poor Lance! Lance, I weep for you.
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Where the heck is Tommy Dreamer. I liked that guy. I was thinking they should bring back the Hardcore title and give it to him. I know what your thinking not another belt but it's just a gimmmick belt and at least for me I could look forward to a good old fashioned hardcore match each week instead of a Mark Henry match.
And, let's not forget, before his injury, Mark Henry was on a tear of really solid big man work.
I'd agree with the Matt Hardy being underpushed idea, but there's been some smoke in terms of rumors and bluster about him being more dedicated to his girlfriend than to the wrestling life. Who knows where he'll be in a year is a question WWE probably asks themselves, and you can't invest a major push in someone you can't be sure of, barring injury, being there to bring a return on their investment. I like Matt as much as the next guy, but there's probably more than meets the eye with his current situation.
As for who I think is being underpushed? Up until recently I would have said the horribly mismanaged cruiserweight division, but the Chavo/Rey feud seems to be getting legs. Right now, I can't think of anyone I'd like to see a lot more of in WWE than I do now.
Because Erik Watts and David Flair are legendarily bad wrestlers, and Brian Lawler never got much higher than comedy relief? Being a bad wrestler is more likely to draw "Fuck off and die" heat (aka X-Pac Heat) rather than genuine heel heat.