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#1 Posted on
I not shocked when Tupac releases a new album or narrates his own movie- he's clearly alive somewhere in the Caribbean. But how is Biggie Smalls rapping about P.Diddy running the city on Diddy's new song? Six years ago P.Diddy didn't exist. He was either called Sean Puffy Combs or Puff Daddy. And I'm pretty confident he wasn't talking about the NYC marathon back then.

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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95

    Originally posted by count olaf
    But how is Biggie Smalls rapping about P.Diddy running the city on Diddy's new song? Six years ago P.Diddy didn't exist. He was either called Sean Puffy Combs or Puff Daddy. And I'm pretty confident he wasn't talking about the NYC marathon back then.
1: I bet "running the city" probably meant "running things in the city/in charge of stuff", as opposed to literally *runnung* through the city.

2: I'm sure Puffy/P.Diddy/Puff Daddy was refering to himself as Puffy/P.Diddy/Puff Daddy and a plethora of other similar names before he made the official switch.

3: I feel kinda silly answering these questions, was this supposed to be some sort of sarcasm/joke that went right over my head?



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.00
BIG used to call him "diddy" whenever it would fit into his rhyme scheme. An example is him saying "P. Diddy run the city, show no pity." in the song "Victory" off of Diddy's first solo album "No Way Out". There's your explanation.

And Frosty, what's up with having Kanye West as your avatar instead of the usual Laker love?



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95

I am SO very much in love with Kanye's CD. I bought it like 2 (3?) weeks ago and I havent listened to the radio or anything else in my car (ok, it's a van) since.

I am so tired of all this "Bling-Bling/The hoes on my album cover have bigger asses than the hoes on your album cover/17 singles in a row about how shiny my rims are/This is my very first song ever and I'm only 19 and I never even had a real job before I started rapping but lookit how carelessly I throw all these hunderd-dollar bills in the fireplace I had installed in the back of my stretched Escalade, HOLLA!" crap on the radio. Save it. If you're a rapper, and you turn on the radio and hear 160 songs in a row about how much money all these other rappers have (even though they really dont), what would posess you to become the 161st song on the radio to be about all the money you have (even though you really dont)? I dont get it, I cant stand it.


FINALLY someone comes along and raps about stuff that actually HAPPENED to them, issues that actually apply to their real lives, and subject matter that I can relate to: Dropping out of college, being broke, living with moms, working crappy jobs, etc. Rock bands can do it, country singers can do it, it's about damn time rappers do it too.

(Special shout-out to Talib Kweli, Common, & Mos Def while I'm at it.)

Besides, my post colors are still Laker-riffic, so I think I'm covered :)



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.93
The Kanye west album is tight. Now.. Dead Prez.. Their new album, revolutionary but gangsta, is the best hip hop album I have ever heard.

Lately, there has been lots of GREAT hip hop. Cee-lo has a new album coming that is insane. The New Jay Z album, I always liked his flow, but his subjects were the same shit. This album, he changes that completely. Of course the new Outkast album
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.15
    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
    FINALLY someone comes along and raps about stuff that actually HAPPENED to them, issues that actually apply to their real lives, and subject matter that I can relate to: Dropping out of college, being broke, living with moms, working crappy jobs, etc. Rock bands can do it, country singers can do it, it's about damn time rappers do it too.


don't forget about that white kid from detroit. ;)

(edited by Jericholic53 on 3.3.04 0001)


it says so right here in the wcw handbook!

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.50
    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
    I am so tired of all this "Bling-Bling/The hoes on my album cover have bigger asses than the hoes on your album cover/17 singles in a row about how shiny my rims are/This is my very first song ever and I'm only 19 and I never even had a real job before I started rapping but lookit how carelessly I throw all these hunderd-dollar bills in the fireplace I had installed in the back of my stretched Escalade, HOLLA!" crap on the radio. Save it. If you're a rapper, and you turn on the radio and hear 160 songs in a row about how much money all these other rappers have (even though they really dont), what would posess you to become the 161st song on the radio to be about all the money you have (even though you really dont)? I dont get it, I cant stand it.



Amen, brother. Every time I see Chingy pop up on my TV, I want to throw a brick through it. Especially when he's trying to get my little sister Rudy Huxtable in the sack.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95

    Originally posted by Battlezone
    Especially when he's trying to get my little sister Rudy Huxtable in the sack.
I thought the same thing when I saw that video! Please tell me that's not actually her.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
    I am so tired of all this "Bling-Bling/The hoes on my album cover have bigger asses than the hoes on your album cover/17 singles in a row about how shiny my rims are/This is my very first song ever and I'm only 19 and I never even had a real job before I started rapping but lookit how carelessly I throw all these hunderd-dollar bills in the fireplace I had installed in the back of my stretched Escalade, HOLLA!" crap on the radio. Save it. If you're a rapper, and you turn on the radio and hear 160 songs in a row about how much money all these other rappers have (even though they really dont), what would posess you to become the 161st song on the radio to be about all the money you have (even though you really dont)? I dont get it, I cant stand it.


Best. Quote. EVER.




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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.43
    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
    II am so tired of all this "Bling-Bling/The hoes on my album cover have bigger asses than the hoes on your album cover/17 singles in a row about how shiny my rims are/This is my very first song ever and I'm only 19 and I never even had a real job before I started rapping but lookit how carelessly I throw all these hunderd-dollar bills in the fireplace I had installed in the back of my stretched Escalade, HOLLA!" crap on the radio. Save it. If you're a rapper, and you turn on the radio and hear 160 songs in a row about how much money all these other rappers have (even though they really dont), what would posess you to become the 161st song on the radio to be about all the money you have (even though you really dont)? I dont get it, I cant stand it.


C'mon! Who DOESN'T care about Rapper X's 17 inch spinners, rollin' the Denali into the hood, gettin all the hoes to scream "Oh, Papi!" or whatever shit is up this week.

All the self-excess acts have really gotten me to side with non-urban acts. I really want to be a fan of Rap. I love Common, Jurassic 5, The Roots; perhaps Kayne West is the answer for 2004.



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    Originally posted by James F'n X
    I really want to be a fan of Rap. I love Common, Jurassic 5, The Roots; perhaps Kayne West is the answer for 2004.


Good hip-hop is out there, you just gotta look for it. There's a new Tribe Called Quest album due out near the end of the year, and there should be a new Roots album out this summer. And that new Cee-Lo album, I hear, is pretty fantastic. And of course, there's OutKast.

The sooner people start picking up some of those groups, the sooner these hip-pop acts can start going the way of NSync and the Backstreet Boys. And I think we'll ALL be happy for that.

Frosty: Yeah, it's her. I'll never forget-I had JUST finished watching an old episode of The Cosby Show on Nick at Nite, and flipped over to MTV just in time to catch her prancing around in her underwear. I was mildly disturbed, to say the least.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.24
    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
    FINALLY someone comes along and raps about stuff that actually HAPPENED to them, issues that actually apply to their real lives, and subject matter that I can relate to: Dropping out of college, being broke, living with moms, working crappy jobs, etc.


Dude, I agree with most of what you said, but A LOT of rappers rap about that shit, and they've been doing it for years. It's not some new thing...unless of course you're limiting your list to that which is played on MTV. Then I understand, and pretty much completely agree.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95

    Originally posted by Joseph Ryder
    unless of course you're limiting your list to that which is played on MTV. Then I understand, and pretty much completely agree.
What's currently being played on MTV/BET, what's popular today, what's currently being played on the radio, etc.

But yeah.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
"I am so tired of all this "Bling-Bling/The hoes on my album cover have bigger asses than the hoes on your album cover/17 singles in a row about how shiny my rims are/This is my very first song ever and I'm only 19 and I never even had a real job before I started rapping but lookit how carelessly I throw all these hunderd-dollar bills in the fireplace I had installed in the back of my stretched Escalade, HOLLA!" crap on the radio. Save it. If you're a rapper, and you turn on the radio and hear 160 songs in a row about how much money all these other rappers have (even though they really dont), what would posess you to become the 161st song on the radio to be about all the money you have (even though you really dont)? I dont get it, I cant stand it."

Preach it, man. Just preach it!!!
They're all the same....
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Let me throw in an AMEN to Rev Frosty too.


As I get older I was getting worried that Hip Hop wasn't speaking to me anymore, I'm glad I'm not alone. I cant even listen to most of the new stuff. And I shudder to think that Jay-Z wont be making any more CDs. The game truly needs him. But I will check out Kanye West.


As far as the GREATESTRAPPERTHATEVERLIVED the Notorious B.I.G. , "Diddy" was the name he pretty much called Puff all the time. In some 2001 interview that i saw after the name change Puff said that his new name was a tribute to Big. The song Victory, where that line comes from was released in 1997.

And so you all know Tuesday March 9th is the anniversary of B.I.G's death. At my Bar were going to play Most of his catalog all night.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.22
The new Puffy song is a remake of "Victory" off of his Puff Daddy and the Family Album "No Way Out, circa 1997. "Victory" was Puffy's only true duet with Biggie, and the lyrics you here now have been lifted from the original song (and they still work cuz Biggie was SO awesome). The song was released after Biggie was shot and Puff screams at the end of the song: "What am I gonna do now?!?! HUH?!?! It's all fucked up now?!?! What am I gonna do now?!?"



And, Amen Alen (Frosty).

(edited by DrOp on 4.3.04 0512)


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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.88
Add another AMEN to Frosty's collection. Testify!

Of course, I tend to go more mainstream old-school: Public Enemy, LL Cool J, Kris Kross... *ducks*



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.15
i think that's it's kind of ironic that one of the most revered rappers, B.I.G., used to hang out and be best friends with one of the most commercial rappers, diddy, out there today. on another note, while jay-z does rap better than most, i found the black album to be somewhat of a disappointment lyrically. the production wasn't the best either.



it says so right here in the wcw handbook!

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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.22
I respectfully disagree. I have found the Black Album to be Jay-Z's most focused album since Hard Knock Life.





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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.15
    Originally posted by DrOp
    I respectfully disagree. I have found the Black Album to be Jay-Z's most focused album since Hard Knock Life.




maybe it's just because i'm not a huge fan of the neptunes' production, but tracks like "change clothes" really come across as letting the production carry the song rather than the lyrics, and that's something beneath what he's truly capable of.



it says so right here in the wcw handbook!

what does it take to get a higher ranking around here? i already know what it takes to get a lower one! :-P
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