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DEAN RASMUSSEN
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Since: 11.12.01
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.85
I went and saw ``Gangs Of New York`` and didn't realize it was 67 hours long. Now I`m going out drinkin` since The Wife and Kids are at the in-laws till Sunday. Gangs Of New York fucking OWNED.

DEAN.





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Since: 27.6.02

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#2 Posted on
DEAN, can you grace us with an Al Wilson adventure at the least?

(edited by Scott Summets on 6.2.03 2210)


You don't get it boy, this isn't a mudhole... it's an operating table. And I'm the surgeon.
Something tells me to stop with the leg. I don't listen to it.
But where in the world is there in the world
A man so extroardinaire?

C'est moi, c'est moi, I'm forced to admit!
The Great Thomas
Sujuk








Since: 17.6.02
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#3 Posted on
I only wish I had The Butcher's moustache...





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Since: 2.1.02
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
I am saddened by this news. However, I am now interested in seeing Gangs of New York. I'll still forget to get around to it, though.



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Since: 2.1.02
From: Calgary ... Alberta Canada

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
THE WORKRATE REPORT FOR THE WORKRATE REPORT:

What worked:

Brevity.

What didn't work:

Content.

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I don't wanna go fighting in the tropical heat.
I hate the civil service rules
And I won't open a letter bomb for you.
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Since: 7.11.02
From: Riderville, SK

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#6 Posted on
Gotta agree on Gangs. Daniel Day-Lewis is my new god.

"That's a wound!"



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DEAN RASMUSSEN
He is DEAN








Since: 11.12.01
From: Richmond, Va, U-S-A!

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.85
Oh jiminy, he stole a very long motion picture. That character was great.

DEAN.



YES, I AM DEAN.
oldschoolhero
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Since: 2.1.02
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#8 Posted on
See my quote for my sheer awe at Daniel Day-Lewis' BOSS performance. He is, in fact, the only man who can make a top hat, Rupert-The-Bear pants and a handlebar moustache threatening. if he doesn't win the Oscar this year, I will personally set fire to Steve Martin's nose. That is all.



"Here's the thing: I don't give a tupenny f*ck about your moral conundrum, you meatheaded shit-sack. That's pretty much the thing." Daniel Day-Lewis as Bill "The Butcher" Cutting, Gangs Of New York. You'd be surprised at how many statements this can be used as a response to.

DEAN RASMUSSEN
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Since: 11.12.01
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.85
The guys at A-1 requested that i write a GANGS OF NEW YORK workrate report, and here it is:

I went to the Regal Cinema at Virginia Center Commons and paid my $7.50 to get quite my money's worth.
WHAT WORKED:
-Daniel Day-Lewis. His performance was OVERWHELMING. He stole the movie and fried every other character in the movie with sheer charisma and depth. Leonardo was really great in this, but he was completely overshadowed whenever both were on the screen at the same time.

- Visual style was like an ode to John Ford- or more precisely an ode to Akira Kurosawa's odes to John Ford- sorta like this apes RAN aping the bigness of STAGECOACH. This movie is BIG.

- The sets are AWESOME. I'm guessing they spent 150,000,000 dollars recreating New York in the middle of the 19th century. The detail was extraordinary especially the filth. It was like a Spaghetti Western in the depiction of the realistic filth of a distant time.

- I like the way he fucked his own ending because the world isn't as cut and dried in 1862 as it was in 1846. The only problem I had with the ending is listed at the bottom.

WHAT DIDN'T WORK:

- Scorsese's big flaw is that in his attempt to pull the trigger like Inmar Bergman and not turn away from the ugly, violent side of man, he usually goes way overboard and he does it here. Some of the violence is pretty gratuitous and glamourized. Other parts, like the part where Cutting's men are stoning the Irish and hit a little girl in the face are harsh but effective.

- The symbolism was really really heavy-handed.

- The hollywood ending where Amsterdam survives was a Hollywood cop-out. The Butcher and Amsterdam should have both died because they both represent two Old Fights that died when the army kills EVERYONE. The Irish vs the Natives ends after the federal army takes over so neither had a reason to exist anymore- allegorically.

- The romance was pretty thrown together. Actually, it started off promising but was really forced by the end. Scoreses isn't very good with strong women's roles and this was another example. His Madonna/Whore complex gets the best of him again.

DEAN.




YES, I AM DEAN.
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Since: 2.1.02
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.41

As I've mentioned elsewhere, I think the whole last third of the movie is Scorsese's homage to Battleship Potemkin.

I think Gangs was the best film of 2002, even better than Adaptation, Confessions and Spirited Away.

DDL definitely should get the little gold man for Bill the Butcher.

Almost as good as tapping the glass eye was when Amsterdam woke up after sleeping with Cameron Diaz to find Bill wrapped in the American flag.



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DEAN RASMUSSEN
He is DEAN








Since: 11.12.01
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.85
Oh man, I see your Potemkin angle. I guess the part at the docks would be his lil Odessa Step Sequence.

DEAN.



YES, I AM DEAN.
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Since: 3.1.02
From: Calgary

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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.96
Agreed, Gangs DID own.

I liked the ending though. I agree that Leo should've died straight up, but the end time-lapse sequence where he mentions that "nobody will even know we were here" and then the cool lapsing of the new city growing and the weeds & grass growing up and around the graves really made up for it, at least to me.

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Since: 2.1.02
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.41

    Originally posted by DEAN RASMUSSEN
    Oh man, I see your Potemkin angle. I guess the part at the docks would be his lil Odessa Step Sequence.

    DEAN.



Yeah. You have the crowd vs. the soldiers, the ships firing into the crowd. Even an homage to the Lion statue roaring.

Marty in an interview did say this film was influenced by montage, but I never would have expected it this "blatantly." Not that I mind, of course. :>



"No one's ever done a movie about flowers before. So there are no guidelines."
"What about "Flowers for Algernon"?"
"Well, that's not about flowers. And it's not a movie."
"Ok, I'm sorry, I never saw it." -- Adaptation
Hogan's My Dad
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Since: 8.6.02
From: Canada

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#14 Posted on
Hey...whattya know, 300 posts.

I dunno...Another heroic leo death? Bah...You can't keep going to that. My only problem is Cameron Diaz is getting older and crustier by the millesecond...jennifer love hewitt would have been so badass in that whore role...but then, I'd cast her as malcolm X if it meant I got to look at her.

(edited by Hogan's My Dad on 9.2.03 0223)


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Sujuk








Since: 27.6.02

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#15 Posted on
Was I the only one who was disapointed that the Natives and Irish never fought in the end? I was pumped for the fight and then the army had to ruin it! They could have brawled a little before the army blasted them deader than Al Wilson.



You don't get it boy, this isn't a mudhole... it's an operating table. And I'm the surgeon.
Something tells me to stop with the leg. I don't listen to it.
But where in the world is there in the world
A man so extroardinaire?

C'est moi, c'est moi, I'm forced to admit!
oldschoolhero
Knackwurst








Since: 2.1.02
From: nWo Country

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#16 Posted on
The eding's metaphors were a little muddled; Scorcese spent the majority of the film concentrating on the personal revenge issues between Amsterdam and Cutting, then seemed to decide at the last minute decided that he wanted to throw that away in favour of an allegory for the overall bloody rebirth of America. But it did work, I think; in particular, it added an extra layer of poignancy to The Butcher's character-his final demise coming not from glorious battle or at the hands of his honorable nemesis, but rather the crooked politically-run country that he no longer has any control of.

Like I say, a fucking awesome piece.



"Here's the thing: I don't give a tupenny f*ck about your moral conundrum, you meatheaded shit-sack. That's pretty much the thing." Daniel Day-Lewis as Bill "The Butcher" Cutting, Gangs Of New York. You'd be surprised at how many statements this can be used as a response to.

Dr Unlikely
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#17 Posted on
I don't think it was so much muddled as finally bringing home the point that their personal rivalries were insignificant and would be forgotten in the larger fight going on around them, tying together the whole film's theme of "turning your back on the future." The birth of America is the context and the example, but I think you could move Five Corners to the Holy City and have the same theme about how fighting over old rivalries only dooms the people fighting to burying themselves and being relegated to the past. I agree, absolutely great movie. And Daniel Day-Lewis should get best actor, hands down, if just for the accent, the nose and the bad-ass 'stache. We should have (or continue) this thread in the Random topic, I guess.

On the topic, I, too missed SmackDown because Dean went to see "Gangs of New York", assuming for this case that Dean is Michael Jackson and "Gangs of New York" was the hilarious ABC special. Also not really on topic, Daniel Day-Lewis with the Bill the Butcher nose should play Bret Hart in the eventual epic movie adaptations of forthcoming The Bret Hart Trilogy.
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Since: 26.8.02
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#18 Posted on
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By Richard Johnson

BILL "The Butcher" Poole, the villain played by Daniel Day-Lewis in "Gangs of New York," will finally get his due Thursday when Brooklyn's Green-Wood Cemetery unveils a new 31/2-foot-tall tombstone, carved with what are purported to be Poole's last words: "Goodbye, boys, I die a true American." The site has previously been unmarked. "As an historic cemetery, Green-Wood has a special responsibility to keep alive the memories of so many people - heroic or corrupt, saintly or villainous," said Richard Moylan, president of the cemetery.





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