Originally posted by hhhgamewmx7It will be out Mar. 16
Also, did i hear boring chants during the Guerrero/Lesnar match?
I thought I did to at a couple points, but I think they were chanting Goldberg. Though the two words can be used interchangeably. Maybe CRZ can clarify.
This show was a one trick pony, but damn, that was a hell of a main. From the entrances, to the false shifts of momentum, right on down to the finish; now that wrestling the way I remember it that's wrestling the way it should be. Maybe not 5 stars, but pretty damned close. As Omega said, it made me remember why I am a wrestling fan.
I would chastise the undercard, but I won't, given the circumstances and what we got coming next month it wasn't too bad. As alot of it of course was building to mania, but with the rooster split they can't do in such grand fashion as in previous years.
Now, you talk about Eddies reaction. Let me ask you what would your reaction be if I told a year ago that Eddie and Benoit would both be headlining Wrestlemania 20? Eddie defending his newly won World Championship?
I can't really add anything that hasn't already been said ... but after all Eddie's been through, it's good to see him at the top of the mountain ... hats off to he and Lesnar for putting on what is, in my eyes, the Match of the Year so far for 2004.
Well, I learned something tonight For years I have been trying to deny the obvious... No matter how many times people tried to tell me, I denied it But tonight, tonight I saw incontrovertible proof... Eddie Guerrero... is well and truly... the most... SELFISH BASTARD on the planet
I mean seriously, here on the GREATEST NIGHT of Chavo's life (and that was a sweet match) His Uncle Eddy HAS to steal his thunder Chavo doesn't get even one night to be the most successful Guerrero in the family.
Our favorite dictator attended the show (we're looking at YOU, CRZ...), so I'm anxiously awaiting his reaction to the card. I wanted to catch it on PPV, but my brother was in town, so I wasn't able to catch it.
Sounds like while the undercard was a bit flat, the main event made up for it.
How are they going to set up a Lesnar/Goldberg match at WMXX, though?
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I'm really happy for Eddy and happy with the PPV as a whole, but this really sets up WM with SD as the B show. As much as I want to get behind Eddy as champion (and he deserves this run, don't get me wrong) he just screams 'transitional' the same way Slaughter did 13 years ago. Angle's poised to get his WM main event win back, I think. And I'm not even sure their match will be later than Lesnar/Goldberg. It'll probably be the best match on the card and the crowd's really, REALLY getting behind Eddy - but it just feels overshadowed. And that's a shame.
Originally posted by Hogan's My DadYes, Vince sure has made some bone-headed moves over the years, but you've got to grant him tonight. He proved that he perfectly understood the drama. The need for Goldberg to be involved in the finish but not to be completely responsible for the finish. The need to book Eddy as an underdog fighting against incredible odds but never quitting. The need to have Eddy not attempt to cheat until Lesnar already brought the belt into the ring and tried to cheat first. The need to have Eddy win with his finish. The need to have the commentators not think he could do it, which had shades of Ali/Foreman. These were all integral aspects of booking that main event right, and if we're going to shake a fist at Vince for craptacular booking he ought to have a hat tipped to him tonight. He hasn't booked anything this well in years. Perfect, fitting, and just a thrill as a wrestling fan to be a part of.
Well said, HMD. I expected nothing short of MOTYC from Brock and Eddie and they delivered in spades. This was easily the best match I've seen in months and the visual of Eddie jumping into the crowd is something that needs to go into a "Desire" video ASAP! THIS is what wrestling's all about!
Edge: So Triple H wants me to come to Raw and fight him for the big gold belt. I've TOTALLY passed you on the card. Jericho: Yeah, but while Triple H is burying you, I get to make out with Trish in front of millions. You tell ME who the winner is here, junior!
I gotta agree with the crowd here. Titles may or may not mean what they once did but Eddie's name is on the list now. And this is not the NWA/WCW/Big Gold Belt/WCW/WORLD title either. This is the same title(though a different belt)that Bruno, Pedro, Superstar Graham, Backlund, Hogan, Savage...have held. And if he drops the belt at Mania to Angle or whomever...well, he dropped the belt at the biggest show at the freakin' garden to maybe the best all around performer of the last decade. No shame in that, right?
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That was absolutely amazing to see. My roommates think I am utterly insane for jumping off my couch when Eddie got the frog splash and pin on Lesnar and for having a tear come to me when he hit the crowd. But you know what, fuck them, and fuck anyone who did not feel that moment tonight. Yes I know it was a plotline and Vince is exploiting Eddie's illnesses and problems, but you tell me that was not the look of a man who has made it through the long darkness and come out the other side.
Toil not to gain wealth, cease to be concerned about it. Proverbs 23:4
Originally posted by ChumpstainIt's not that often that I get emotional while watching the show, but the ending of tonight's main event did it for me. I counted Eddy's pinfall along with the ref (I'd tried the same earlier after the spear, but Brock kicked out), and teared up a bit when Eddy celebrated.
Good for you, Eddy!
Well, I'm glad I wasn't the only one. When I saw that it was official, when I saw that it was true. Eddie Guerrero, WWE champion, I got a little choked up. I shed a tear.
The last time I shed a tear, before tonight, was back on Jan. 25 of this year when I witnessed Chris Benoit winning the 2004 Royal Rumble match. Not only making it official that he would headline Wrestlemania, but, that he'll headline WM 20 in Madison Square Garden.
These men work hard and sacrafice plenty for their business. And, so many of them don't make it and are left behind in one form or another. So many men spend their entire carers never achieving the gold ring. So, go ahead and push your Randy Ortons and your A-Trains, and, on occassion your Shane McMahons....because, on Feb. 15, 2004 at about 10:35 eastern time, I laid my eyes on Eddie Guerrero, WWE champion. So, with a grin on my face, a tear in my eye and what can only be described as 'joy' in my heart, I saluted a real 'real man's man'. Eddie Guerrero, WWE champion, and if even for a moment, I was happy.
CHRIS BENOIT....YOU'RE NEXT!!!!!
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(edited by headlock on 16.2.04 0047) "If you put the letter 'S' in front of Hitman, you get my basic oppinion of Bret Hart!"-Steve Austin to Brian Pillman September 96 in regards to Bret Hart...and, no I'm not calling you stupid!
Originally posted by headlockSo, go ahead and push your Randy Ortons and your A-Trains, and, on occassion your Shane McMahons....because, on Jan. 15, 2004 at about 10:35 eastern time, I laid my eyes on Eddie Guerrerro, WWE champion.
Hell yeah. This is what it's all about. Hell, just Thursday I was telling someone that Eddie's speech was exactly why I stick with wrestling in spite of all the stupidity and lameness... because now and then, it's something more.
And Eddie's not just champion, he's a milestone champion. Number seventy-five.
I love being a wrestling fan.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
I'm not sure why you're ragging on how terrible the show was last week. It's not like WWE tried to make it an awesome show and failed miserably...it was supposed to be a hype piece for 'Mania, and that's what it was.