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One Fall inside a Barbed Wire Steel Cage for the WWE Championship (Win by pin, submission or escape):
JOHN LAYFIELD [Champion; 6'6", 290; New York, NY] vs. THE BIG SHOW [7', 470; Tampa, FL]
Prediction: JBL retains. Batista is there, but doesn't get involved. They steal the St. Valentine's Day Massacre finish, with Show tossing JBL out instead of Stone Cold.

One Fall for the #1 Contendership to the WWE Championship:
KURT ANGLE [6'2", 220; Pittsburgh, PA] vs. JOHN CENA [WWE United States Champion; 6'1", 240; West Newbury, MA]
Prediction: Cena wins. HBK costs Angle the match.

One Fall for the WWE Tag Team Championship:
THE BASHAM BROTHERS [Champions; 500 combined] vs. REY MYSTERIO Y EDDIE GUERRERO [385 combined]
Prediction: Bashams win via Orlando Jordan interference.

Elimination Match for the WWE Cruiserweight Championship:
FUNAKI [Champion; 5'7", 180; Japan] vs. SHANNON MOORE [5'9", 175; Charlotte, NC] vs. PAUL LONDON [5'10", 205; Austin, TX] vs. CHAVO GUERRERO [5'9", 210; El Paso, TX] vs. AKIO [5'9", 200; Japan] vs. SPIKE DUDLEY [5'8", 150; Dudleyville]
Prediction: Paul London wins as a reward for the Bump Of the Year at the Royal Rumble.

One Fall:
THE UNDERTAKER [6'10", 328; Death Valley] vs. LUTHER REIGNS [6'5", 285; Phoenix, AZ]
Prediction: Undertaker.

One Fall:
BOOKER T [6'3", 250; Houston, TX] vs. HEIDENREICH [6'5", 275; New Orleans, LA]
Prediction: Booker T.
EDIT: Confirmed on Velocity.

Smackdown! Rookie Diva of 2005 Competition (Swimsuit, Evening Gown & Talent portions):
JOY GIOVANNI vs. MICHELLE McCOOL vs. ROCHELLE vs. LAUREN
Prediction: It's either Joy or Michelle. I say Joy. Plus, people with no last names never win.

(edited by Freeway420 on 19.2.05 2133)

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- Probably some screwup angle to set up Eddie vs. Rey for Mania.

- Michaels should get involved, but I hope he doesn't outright cost Angle the match, because Cena shouldn't back into the title match. Michaels can do something like Goldberg last year and shoot an angle before or after the match.

- I wonder how you get to Orton vs. Undertaker. Hopefully if they really are dumping that tag match, it means Heidensnitsky get left off the show entirely, and you can job John out to Booker instead of "rebuilding" him. Kane can wrestle Matt Hardy with Snitsky as his new MF'er.

- London really ought to win, and I think your logic about bump for title is exactly how they're thinking. Too bad Kidman didn't get the belt at Survivors to set up his matches with Chavo and London (which never even happened).

- Somehow you forgot about the two other girls who weren't even from the Diva Search. The ones who went gaga over Cena's belt. Rochelle and ... someone.

(edited by JustinShapiro on 17.2.05 1652)
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JBL defeats Big Show, since Cena already had his match against Show last year at Wrestlemania.

Cena defeats Angle

I really can't see Eddie and Rey winning, so Basham Bros.

Hmm...the Cruiserweight is a tough one. But I really can't see Funaki retaining it. And there's no way Akio is winning it. And since the other two Dudleys are gone, Spike would have nothing to do with the belt if he won it. I have a feeling that someone new will win the Cruiserweight belt, so that eliminates Chavo. So that leaves me with Shannon and London, and out of those two, I'd guess London.

Yeah, Undertaker would REALLY job to Luther. Pfft, Taker wins this one.

Ugh, as much as I hate it, Heidenreich.

And I don't know what the Divas contest thing is, but if Torrie H/Torrieberg/Torrietaker is in it, she will win.

EDIT: Now that I know who is participating, I say that Joy will win.

(edited by DarkRenegade on 18.2.05 0102)


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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.66
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    - Probably some screwup angle to set up Eddie vs. Rey for Mania.

    - Michaels should get involved, but I hope he doesn't outright cost Angle the match, because Cena shouldn't back into the title match. Michaels can do something like Goldberg last year and shoot an angle before or after the match.

    - I wonder how you get to Orton vs. Undertaker. Hopefully if they really are dumping that tag match, it means Heidensnitsky get left off the show entirely, and you can job John out to Booker instead of "rebuilding" him. Kane can wrestle Matt Hardy with Snitsky as his new MF'er.

    - London really ought to win, and I think your logic about bump for title is exactly how they're thinking. Too bad Kidman didn't get the belt at Survivors to set up his matches with Chavo and London (which never even happened).

    - Somehow you forgot about the two other girls who weren't even from the Diva Search. The ones who went gaga over Cena's belt. Rochelle and ... someone.

    (edited by JustinShapiro on 17.2.05 1652)


Since the beginning of the Snitsky/Kane angle, I thought it'd be GOLD to have Matt return and reveal that he sent Snitsky after Kane, but didn't mean for Lita (or the baby) to get hurt. That sets up Kane vs. Matt at Mania for Lita's heart (and soul).



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.82
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    - Kane can wrestle Matt Hardy with Snitsky as his new MF'er




That's comedy gold right there. Imagine Snitsky following Matt around in a V-1 shirt. Snitsky would be much better in a bodyguard/hired muscle role where he has someone like Matt Hardy to do the talking for him and just sick him on people.





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#6 Posted on
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    - Too bad Kidman didn't get the belt at Survivors to set up his matches with Chavo and London (which never even happened


Not having access to any WWE over here, can some one please tell me what the hell happened to Kidman? He goes from killing Chavo and London to disappearing into thin air? What did I miss?



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- JBL beats Big Show, possibly with interference from the Cabinet (maintaining JBL's "escaping out of every situation" storyline).

- Cena beats Angle clean, fending off Angle's stable in the process. I do see a possible finish where Cena uses his chain while the ref is distracted getting rid of Reigns and Jindrak though.

- Bashams beat Guerrero & Mysterio in a similar story to the Los Guerreros break-up (i.e. perhaps Rey accidentally knocking Guerrero out during a headscissor, then Rey gets pinned).

- London winning the six-way. I don't necessarily think his victory will lead to an improvement to the cruiserweight division, unless WWE really get behind him and keep featuring him in title defences on SD! on a weekly basis.

- Undertaker beats Reigns. I could see a similar type of match here as Taker had with Heidenreich the first time around, where Taker leaves surprised at how well Reigns tested him. Maybe that could lead to the Orton scenerio, where Orton questions Taker's ability to beat usually-easy opponents? Probably a long shot idea there.

- Heidenreich beats Booker T. I'd hate to see that but WWE still seems intent on pushing the big lug, and Booker doesn't have much going for him right now. That's unless they've decided to cut their losses and job Heidenreich out...

- SD Diva thing. Oh lord, erm... I'm guessing Joy wins whatever it is, because she's the new face diva and she's been on TV every week.
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JBL v.s Big Show: The champ retains.

Kurt Angle v.s John Cena: Looks like Angle/HBK and Cena/JBL at WMXXI, so Cena wins.

Bashams v.s Rey & Eddy: I'm so tempted to go challengers here, but "The Best Tag Team Ever"(TM JBL) will retain.

Cruiserweight Six-Man: Well, Funaki's semi-annual push will end, as Chavo gets the title.

Undertaker v.s Luther Reigns: 'Taker. 'Nuff said.

WWE.com doesn't have this match, but- Booker T. v.s Heidenreich: The Book. Please.

Diva crap: I'm rooting for Michelle (come on, Michelle McCool? That's SO a pro wrestling name), but Joy will win.

(edited by geemoney on 17.2.05 2317)


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CLARIFICATION ON THE BARBED WIRE STEEL CAGE MATCH RULES:
According to the WWE previews for the match: Pinfall or submission within the cage gets the victory. There's no escape, hence the apt "No Way Out" PPV title.

JBL will no doubt retain, but HOW he retains will probably set up a match for the Big Show at WrestleMania with somebody. The only question is...WHO??

EDIT: I suppose that a win COULD be garnered by escape...but the door MAY (or may be not) be chained shut...and an over-the-top exit seems less than likely.

(edited by Freeway420 on 18.2.05 1953)


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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.30
    Originally posted by Freeway420
    CLARIFICATION ON THE BARBED WIRE STEEL CAGE MATCH RULES:
    According to the WWE previews for the match: Pinfall or submission within the cage gets the victory. There's no escape, hence the apt "No Way Out" PPV title.

    JBL will no doubt retain, but HOW he retains will probably set up a match for the Big Show at WrestleMania with somebody. The only question is...WHO??


That's rather obvious Freeway420. Now that apparently its going to be Legend Killer vs. Legend...the guy that will face the Big Show will be...HEID-EN-REICH!




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One Fall inside a Barbed Wire Steel Cage for the WWE Championship:
JOHN LAYFIELD [Champion; 6'6", 290; New York, NY] vs. THE BIG SHOW [7', 470; Tampa, FL]
Prediction: No reason for Big Show to win here. Bradshaw retains, and under the circumstances it'll probably be the strongest that he's put over since he's won the title: clean, and over the HOSS OF BAH GAWD HOSSES.

One Fall for the #1 Contendership to the WWE Championship:
KURT ANGLE [6'2", 220; Pittsburgh, PA] vs. JOHN CENA [WWE United States Champion; 6'1", 240; West Newbury, MA]
Prediction: Kind of a hard situation, because going with a direct HBK interference finish hurts Cena... Michaels will get involved, but it won't be the finish. Angle will still be pissed about it, though. So Cena's my pick.

One Fall for the WWE Tag Team Championship:
THE BASHAM BROTHERS [Champions; 500 combined] vs. REY MYSTERIO Y EDDIE GUERRERO [385 combined]
Prediction: Although the Bashams aren't great, Eddie and Rey are just a thrown together team for the purpose of leading to a likely Eddie/Rey match at Wrestlemania. So they screw up somehow, and the Bashams win.

Elimination Match for the WWE Cruiserweight Championship:
FUNAKI [Champion; 5'7", 180; Japan] vs. SHANNON MOORE [5'9", 175; Charlotte, NC] vs. PAUL LONDON [5'10", 205; Austin, TX] vs. CHAVO GUERRERO [5'9", 210; El Paso, TX] vs. AKIO [5'9", 200; Japan] vs. SPIKE DUDLEY [5'8", 150; Dudleyville]
Prediction: Let's see... Moore has done nothing in... well, ever. Chavo has had no character development since he came back, Spike is dead in the water without the Dudleyz, and although Akio is very underrated I don't see him winning. So that leaves the champ and London, and since it would be pretty idiotic to put the champ over the entire damn division in one night, it looks like London will be getting his first singles title in WWE.

One Fall:
THE UNDERTAKER [6'10", 328; Death Valley] vs. LUTHER REIGNS [6'5", 285; Phoenix, AZ]
Prediction: Pleasegodpleasegod don't have Heidenreich interfere AGAIN to prolong that feud any longer... I'm gonna go with the upset here and pick Reigns, as I think he's one of the best generic mid card HOSSES in WWE (him and Tomko), and the way he's been booked I wouldn't be shocked if they have enough faith in him to put him over Taker, albiet at a poorly hyped PPV.

One Fall:
BOOKER T [6'3", 250; Houston, TX] vs. HEIDENREICH [6'5", 275; New Orleans, LA]
Prediction: Heidenreich's usefulness is running out, unless they still think he can be a upper card player. I hope that they don't, so Booker T wins and... well, they figure out something for him.

Smackdown! Rookie Diva of 2005 Competition (Swimsuit, Evening Gown & Talent portions):
JOY GIOVANNI vs. MICHELLE McCOOL vs. ROCHELLE vs. LAUREN
Prediction: Joy's the only one getting consistent TV time as of late, so she'll likely win. I honestly haven't seen the last two before... but on the bright side, I've read somewhere that they're training Michelle to actually be a wrestler, which is nice.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.66
    Originally posted by The Vile1
      Originally posted by Freeway420
      CLARIFICATION ON THE BARBED WIRE STEEL CAGE MATCH RULES:
      According to the WWE previews for the match: Pinfall or submission within the cage gets the victory. There's no escape, hence the apt "No Way Out" PPV title.

      JBL will no doubt retain, but HOW he retains will probably set up a match for the Big Show at WrestleMania with somebody. The only question is...WHO??


    That's rather obvious Freeway420. Now that apparently its going to be Legend Killer vs. Legend...the guy that will face the Big Show will be...HEID-EN-REICH!


Please tell me you're kidding. PLEASE. We may have a candidate for the Jackie Gayda Worst Match of the Year Award...



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.05
Michelle McCool? She needs to be Carlito's valet. Now.

Anyway, predictions:

JBL/Show: Is it just me, or is this the least suspenseful main event since Lesnar/Holly last year? JBL.

Angle/Cena: Cena. I don't think they'll go so far as to have Michaels get involved, though; it doesn't seem to me that the feud has advanced that far yet.

Bashams/Rey and Eddie: I'd rather the Bashams win here. Let's keep the tag belts on an actual team for a while...

Cruiserweight elimination: It'll be too fast, for one (despite the oodles of free time on the card), much like last year's cruiserweight gauntlet match at WM. The only outcomes that make sense to me are either having Funaki retain or having London win, and I'm hoping for the latter.

Taker/Reigns: Undertaker, as he continues on his Path of Midcard Hoss Rage.

Booker/Heidenreich: Sadly, since they seem determined to keep pushing Heidenreich, I'm going to have to bet on him.

Diva miscellany: What the heck. Joy.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.48
Cage: JBL over Show

Taker over Reigns

Cena over Angle...HBK interferes

LONDON over everyone else for the belt

Bashams retain the belts

Joy, cause she has the biggest gams.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.40
The barbed wire cage match is no escape? I think that you might be wrong because I could have sworn that they said on SD last night that it was pinfall, submission, or escape. Where did you read that Freeway420?

Anyway,

JBL Vs Big Show: WWE Title - There is no way that JBL drops the strap. They haven't really built Big Show up to be a threat at all, which is fine by me because even if they did it would be stupid for him to win it. JBL retains with outside interference. I hope they have some clever way for the Cabinet to come into play if indeed thats the way they go. This match should be pretty good. Both guys will work hard, and the stipulation is novel.

John Cena vs Kurt Angle: No Way Out Tournament Final - Cena wins. Again, there isn't much doubt about this one. It will be Angle-HBK and Cena-JBL at Mania, so Cena has to win here. The only question is will HBK get involved. I say that he can and perhaps should, but not at Cena's expense. Cena needs to win clean here, not because of HBK's help. This should be a good match, but both of them are probably worse than they were when they met at No Mercy '03. It will be interesting.

Basham Brothers vs Eddie Guerrero/Rey Mysterio: Tag Team Titles - This should be a pretty good match, and the Bashams will probably win. Someone already mentioned it (in fact a lot of people have), but Eddie and Rey will probably lose because of miscommunication to set up a match at Mania.

Booker T vs Heidenreich: Who knows. I'll say Heidenreich, not because I want him to win or think he should, but that's just the type of thing WWE would do.

Cruiserweight Title Match: I can (almost) guarantee that Akio, Moore, Spike, and Chavo will not win this match. That leaves Funaki and Paul London. I'll say London just because he has been tearing it up on Velocity lately against Akio. Not that that means ANYTHING. I guess I'll just go with the guy that I like the best.

Undetaker vs Luther Reigns: It's been nice, Luther, thanks for playing. Really, if Luther beat Taker clean here, that would be huge for him. The chances of that happening are approximately 0. But he has cut two great promos the last two weeks.

Divas: I can't give you a winner, but I can give you a loser -- Everyone watching at home (rimshot, please). Seriously, they are all very hot, but I can't believe that anyone cares or that WWE thinks that anyone wants to pay for this. If fans really wanted to pay to see hot women, they might just order something on another channel. But in any event, Michelle is really, really hot. If you don't know which one she is, she is the hottest one. I've written too much about this Diva thing. Goodbye!

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JBL/Show: Actually mildly interested by this, just because JBL's a lock to win, but I don't really know how they'd have him win under these conditions

Angle/Cena: Cena. Cena never ever loses

Bashams/Rey and Eddie: Rey and Eddie.....if for no other reason than the Bashams bore me to tears.....

Cruiserweight elimination: Spike wins. It's the most random outcome they could go with, barring maybe Moore winning and hell freezing over

Taker/Reigns: Taker, of course

Booker/Heidenreich: Heidenreich, just to salvage whatever he's got left after Taker killed him

Diva miscellany: Joy's the only one I could pick out of a lineup
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
    Originally posted by BigSteve
    John Cena vs Kurt Angle: No Way Out Tournament Final - Cena wins. Again, there isn't much doubt about this one. It will be Angle-HBK and Cena-JBL at Mania, so Cena has to win here. The only question is will HBK get involved. I say that he can and perhaps should, but not at Cena's expense. Cena needs to win clean here, not because of HBK's help. This should be a good match, but both of them are probably worse than they were when they met at No Mercy '03. It will be interesting.


You know, I'm not so sure Cena *does* need to win clean here. A dirty loss allows for JBL to talk all the way to Wrestlemania about how Cena doesn't deserve to be in the match, and how at Wrestlemania "I'm gonna show the world how little you deserve it." It could add to what Cena "overcomes" in winning the title.

Not only that, but it then gives him a ready-made opponent to establish himself in Kurt Angle. "You never beat me without someone's help, and you CAN'T beat me." Easy post-WM feud.
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I'll make one prediction, and that is the outcome of the WWE Title Match between JBL & Big Show.

I think Big Show will squash JBL throughout the match, but Batista will come down to get a piece of JBL, RIP the door/side of cage off to get to JBL. Big Show fumes at this and confronts Batista, while JBL sneaks out of the gapping hole made by Batista, to retain.

Of course its all later revealed that HHH set up the whole JBL Limo thing because he doesn't think he can beat Batista.

Just to stop the Big Show was screwed angle, and keep him face, they can give him another shot at JBL on a Smackdown! where he is defeated




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I'm only doing this to try and improve my PPV prediction percentage by participating more. Honestly, I only catch Smackdown sporadically.

JBL/Big Show - Gotta be JBL. I'd say clean, too. JBL can really solidify his status with a big, bloody win here so it creates some drama when he faces Cena at WM21. Might even be a good match, too, given that they're both best in a rough brawling scenario. I have no idea what to do in regards to Batista. Best case scenario is that, in some sort of backstage skit, he comes upon Triple H paying off JBL for trying to lure Batista away from RAW.

Cena/Angle - Obviously, from my last prediction, Cena. Should be a good match, even if Angle isn't nearly where he was even a year ago. I really hope Kurt's thinking about retiring this year. He can still put on a great match, but he's got enough of a legacy now that he can just become a trainer or a manager.

Taker/Reigns - Taker. I don't even feel bad for it, as I can't stand Luther Reigns.

Rey-Eddie/Bashams - I'll pick the Bashams, just because I think they'll be holding the titles until they can drop them at WM21 to give the Dudleys their nine millionth title reign. Plus, it helps to build up to Eddie - Rey there, as well. I hope they don't try to turn Eddie heel, though. They should realize that's impossible by now, even against a face as strong and over as Rey.

Cruiserweight Open - I'm going to pick Chavo here. He can play a strong heel, and I think Paul London will get the Wrestlemania pay-off with a title match there. Chavo deserves more than a month long reign, but if anybody can build up decent heat in that short of time, it's Chavo.

Booker/Heidenreich - I don't like either guy much, so I could really care less. Heidenreich, I guess, just because he should probably beat somebody after jobbing to the Undertaker for three months running.

Diva Thingy - Logic says Joy, since she's gotten the most TV time and push for the Big Show stuff. I like Michelle better myself, though.





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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by Shapiro
    Too bad Kidman didn't get the belt at Survivors to set up his matches with Chavo and London (which never even happened).

Somebody doesn't watch Velocity. Kidman has had a couple matches w/ each of those guys on Velocity after their respective injuries (I think he split victories w/ each guy, but I could be wrong), which is pretty sad since they could have had a couple good midcard angles on SD revolving around these 3.

(edited by Spaceman Spiff on 19.2.05 1452)


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Good post, Emma. You encapsulated almost exactly my position on the subject. And I still believe that at it's best, a Women's Championship match can main event a RAW (Remember when Lita won the title from Steph McMahon?)
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