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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2343073


    NFL Players' Association executive director Gene Upshaw told a seminar of agents on Friday to prepare for a 2006 season without an extension to the collective bargaining agreement, setting up an uncapped year in 2007.

    "March 3 will be the beginning of a new league year and we are just not there yet," Upshaw said. "I'm taking the position now that it won't get done."


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Yeah, without an extension 2007 will be without a salary cap. Here's a good article talking about all the implications if an extension isn't done.

If they don't get a deal done, both the players and the owners should be ashamed of themselves. There's too much money to be lost if they don't.



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So basically, if they don't bring the Dallas Cowboys, Washington Redskins, New England Patriots, Houston Texans and Philadelphia Eagles owners to the table, no deal gets done and we get a strike/lockout in 2008?

Fuck 'em. That's five out of thirty-two owners who want to kill the goose that laid the golden egg. I'd tell 'em, "You have until 11:59 on March 2nd to press your case and get the best deal you can. If you cannot get on board with the other owners by March 3rd we will simply contract the league by five teams and let you twist in the wind." And then I'd tell the same thing to the press so the fans and the cities know that the decision to play ball rests with those owners.

Assuming that there's nothing illegal about forcing a contraction like that, anyway.



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Word from ESPN is that the latest round of negotiations has broken down, and that there is realistically no chance of getting anything done before free agency starts on Friday.

This arcicle though (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2348970), paints an ugly picture of what might happen on Thursday. This, from the article:


    In past years, you'd see a lot of guys released who maybe still had some name value, but who were really in decline in terms of production," said one AFC team executive who was working late Tuesday, trying to figure out how to pare down a prohibitively bloated cap figure. "This year? People are going to be stunned -- not just by the quantity of players who are cut by Thursday, but by the quality, too. It's going to be ugly. There's going to be blood in the streets and, compared to past years, it's going to be from some bluebloods, guys who can still play."


At this point, these are all rumors, but it paints some pretty disturbing pictures of this free agency period shaping up to be a disaster (Atlanta having to cut Warrick Dunn if they can't restructure a deal)

There's another quote in that ESPN article, from a NFC exec: "We're going to behead the golden goose". The union line is apparently that if 2007 is uncapped, that's it, the cap isn't coming back. If we're talking NFL armageddon in 2008, it's not going to be 12 hockey fans shocked that the NHL couldn't get it's shit together, it'll be something a whole lot worse.




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The important question is: How does this affect Madden Franchise mode?!?



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Can anyone else say...Clusterfuck?

Reading all of the possibilities, not only does it seem ridiculous to not get this done, but sounds like it does nothing but hurt everyone involved.

3/4 teams that are resistant are in the NFC East, and another is the Texans...contract the NFC East (including the Giants) and take care of 3 of the teams.

Which is even more ridiculous is that the Texans have a problem with it. Anyone else a bit miffed by a expansion franchise throwing a fit about a thing that could have very well been taken away from them??

With the Patriots, maybe the simple solution would be to guarantee an increased budget for Robert Kraft to spend on the same suit that he always wears, with the navy pants and sportcoat, with the light blue shirt w/ white collar, and red tie.

Anyways..it sure looks like Green Bay picked a helluva time to finally get some cap space. Hallelujah.



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My thought is that hey we'll have a bunch of teams that have a chance to pick up some quality guys that will get cut from the group that are currently over the cap.

but then I heard today that Simms signed a one year deal with Tampa and I'm like, "one year????" and it hit me. All of these guys that will become free agents aren't about to sign for more than one year because they know they can get REALLY paid in '07 if there isn't a cap. And that year none of the owners are gonna sign anyone to more than one year because they may or may not have a cap to deal with in '08.

So basically this year we'll get a group of teams that are under the cap with a chance to rent some quality players for one season and make a run. And then in '07 we get a year where the big money teams can do the same thing, probably buying up all those same one year contract players who helped other teams succeed in '06.

But there won't be any team continuity or long term planning when they sign these guys. Should be....interesting.
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IF it ever gets to the uncapped year, you'll need 6 years of service to become an unrestricted free agent, not the 4 years as it currently stands.
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    Originally posted by Sec19Row53
    IF it ever gets to the uncapped year, you'll need 6 years of service to become an unrestricted free agent, not the 4 years as it currently stands.


True, but I was more speaking to those that will become free agents because they are cut in the next 24 hours, rather than the players who reach a certain level of service.
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Sounds like the NFL will be meeting Thursday to try and bump up the cap number for the coming season, hopefully adding 10 million or so to the projected number (about 95 million, as it stands now). The league has already said that whatever the cap number winds up being, teams will have until 10 pm Thursday to get there, as opposed to 4 pm, which is the usual close of the NFL's business day.

ESPN has a list of everyone's cap status at this point, assuming a 92 million cap. Minnesota's in the best shape, 24 million under the cap, and in total, 19 teams are under the cap at this point. 13 teams are over the cap, with Oakland in the worst shape, at 26 million over.

Carolina has also started purging to get under the mark, cutting Rod Smart, Stephen Davis and Brentson Buckner. Miami has dumped 3/4ths of their secondary, and Buffalo cut Lawyer Milloy, and may still have to dump Eric Moulds, who has already said he's not resructuring his deal.



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    Originally posted by Guru Zim
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