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|  #1 Posted on 13.10.03 1047.16 | Instant Rating: 2.94 | From Mike Tenay's "Ask The Professor" on NWATNA.com:
FROM: STIRO (BRISTOL, ENGLAND)
Are the rumors true that NWA/TNA will soon be releasing a video game courtesy of EA Sports?
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Yes and no. We will have an announcement soon about a video game, but I don't believe it will be courtesy of EA Sports. Stay tuned.
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| #2 Posted on 13.10.03 1539.57 | Instant Rating: 3.47 | I didn't know that EA was part of the rumor.
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| #3 Posted on 14.10.03 0049.34 | Instant Rating: 5.21 | I hope this means that some unknown will come out of the works, because I could not stand the Akklaim WWF games. Weirdest. Controls. Ever.
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| #4 Posted on 14.10.03 0436.38 | Instant Rating: 1.22 | Originally posted by gugs
I hope this means that some unknown will come out of the works, because I could not stand the Akklaim WWF games. Weirdest. Controls. Ever.
Lest we forget Meyhem and Backstage Assault? I'll take the Acclaim arcade engine over that weak crap 10 times out of 10. Oh, and EA made those games too.
Acclaim had the problem of being too arcady. AKI, not THQ, is what perfected the wrestling game in Fire Pro. EA got smart and got them. Frankly, so long as it's more wrestling, and less fighting (Backyard Wrestling, which isn't a bad fighter), it'll be appeasing.
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| #5 Posted on 14.10.03 1343.45 | Instant Rating: 9.41 | You know, I can't be the only person who thinks that wrestling games suck.
They just aren't fun. I don't know why everyone wants every new game to be a clone of the last, unfun game.
If you guys like what's already out there - just keep playing it.
Me, I hope someone comes up with a wrestling game that
a) Isn't fucking impossible to control
b) Is fun
c) Has replay value.
For me, none of the games I've played (Giant Gram 2000, Fire Pro D, Smackdown, No Mercy, Raw, and Wrestlemania) have been all of the above for me at the same time.
The last wrestling game I liked was Tag Team wrestling on the 8 bit Nintendo. I liked Pro Wrestling on the Nintendo as well, but it's pretty weak in retrospect.
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| #6 Posted on 14.10.03 1354.03 | Originally posted by Guru Zim
You know, I can't be the only person who thinks that wrestling games suck.
The last wrestling game I liked was Tag Team wrestling on the 8 bit Nintendo. I liked Pro Wrestling on the Nintendo as well, but it's pretty weak in retrospect.
I'm with you on that, I just don't enjoy them either. The last one I played was SYM, which I found repetitive and overall way too easy. I'm not saying wrestling games are bad, just not my cup of tea.
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| #7 Posted on 14.10.03 1431.43 | Instant Rating: 4.05 | Originally posted by Guru Zim
>a) Isn't fucking impossible to control
b) Is fun
c) Has replay value.
For me, none of the games I've played (Giant Gram 2000, Fire Pro D, Smackdown, No Mercy, Raw, and Wrestlemania) have been all of the above for me at the same time.
I agree with you. The last wrestling game I got was the first PS2 smackdown game.
most control? Fire pro games. timing is the key. no button mashing for u,u,d,d,l,l,r,r,b,a,select,start to do like an irish whip. just hit your button when the lock up occurs before the other guy can and you get your move off.
Just for my cursoity, which game was the most fun to you guru?
for me, it was FP:6MS for the japan saturn. I am/was a big six man tag/tornado tag fan, and you could do 6 man battle royals in that game.
most replay? tie between SD2 for the PS1 and FP:6MS. SD2, if my memory serves, had the unlimited career mode, and FP:6MS had many modes like round robin mode, and i had one with 30 6 man tag teams...i love round robin play (so, team 1 is 2 points ahead, i need to get this many pins, but if i get this many dq wins, i could still pull ahead)
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| #8 Posted on 15.10.03 1215.12 | Instant Rating: 4.05 | Originally posted by Guru Zim
You know, I can't be the only person who thinks that wrestling games suck.
They just aren't fun. I don't know why everyone wants every new game to be a clone of the last, unfun game.
If you guys like what's already out there - just keep playing it.
Me, I hope someone comes up with a wrestling game that
a) Isn't fucking impossible to control
b) Is fun
c) Has replay value.
For me, none of the games I've played (Giant Gram 2000, Fire Pro D, Smackdown, No Mercy, Raw, and Wrestlemania) have been all of the above for me at the same time.
The last wrestling game I liked was Tag Team wrestling on the 8 bit Nintendo. I liked Pro Wrestling on the Nintendo as well, but it's pretty weak in retrospect.
Did you try VPW2? I got better matches out of VPW2 than I did No Mercy (had a 25+ minute back & forth tag match, and I was using a super-CAW). And it had great replay value. A bunch of legendary wrestlers, and a bunch of moves & clothing, all unlocked by playing through the game.
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| #9 Posted on 15.10.03 1631.28 | Instant Rating: 9.41 | I don't know. Maybe if it were more like wrestling.
I hate picking a guy like Big Show and then losing to someone like Raven. I mean, I should still win, but get really low scores because I didn't sell correctly, or picked bad move sequences.
I just wish I could book the match and THEN play it.
I get so frustrated I just give up and return the game after a day, pretty much every time. Now, I don't generally suck at video games - so there has to be a % of the population that is like me. I've got to be in the top 50% of ability to pick up and play video games...
I mean I can blow through a game like Soul Calibur II - shouldn't I be able to win an obvious mismatch in a wrestling game?
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| #10 Posted on 15.10.03 2212.32 | Instant Rating: 3.37 | I really liked nWo Revenge/No Mercy Series. Those however get to easy and should have a Fire Pro like scoring system in them. While I like the Fire Pro scoring system I hate the game and the Smackdown series pisses me off because I can fall off a the Cell and go through double stacked tables and get up the same as I would from a simple bodyslam. Legends of Wrestling II was fun, but has no replay factor. I guess I'd settle for an updated No Mercy.
By the way I generally suck ass at video games. Although I was pleased with my performance on the GTA games. I'm usually the type of person who gets to the last level then quits because it's either impossible or just random button mashing while trying to blow up the end boss.
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| #11 Posted on 16.10.03 0042.57 | Instant Rating: 4.45 | Originally posted by Guru Zim
I don't know. Maybe if it were more like wrestling.
I hate picking a guy like Big Show and then losing to someone like Raven. I mean, I should still win, but get really low scores because I didn't sell correctly, or picked bad move sequences.
I just wish I could book the match and THEN play it.
I get so frustrated I just give up and return the game after a day, pretty much every time. Now, I don't generally suck at video games - so there has to be a % of the population that is like me. I've got to be in the top 50% of ability to pick up and play video games...
I mean I can blow through a game like Soul Calibur II - shouldn't I be able to win an obvious mismatch in a wrestling game?
I think the problem with a game like the one you seem to be wanting would be that nobody would ever bother playing as any of the "lower card" characters... if your favorite wrestler is, say, Stevie Richards and yet the game makes it so that there's pretty much no way in hell you could ever win a match against... well, in Stevie's case damn near ANYONE, why play him? In a similar vein, it makes create-a-wrestler rather pointless, and for a lot of people that's the meat of a wrestling game. If you create a guy who's a "main eventer", then there's no challenge in playing against anyone who isn't at that level. A fair portion of the fun is taking a guy you like and winning the belt with him.
It sounds like what you're looking for is more of a sim-based game, where you still play out the match but you have to follow a script... something sort of goal-oriented (hit X number of spots involving X type of move, finish before X time) which would be a heck of an interesting idea... unfortunately, I'm not sure it'd ever get made. /:
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| #12 Posted on 16.10.03 0216.34 | Instant Rating: 4.05 | Sounds like guru wants a wrestling game mated with a PaRappa/Dance Dance/Bust a groove/Frequency type game?
You have to follow the script by hitting the right button move at the right time. If you're off, the flow of the match is off and you can have missed and blown spots (like Gayeda/Stratus from like a year ago) and if you get enough spots on target in a row, you are like "in a zone" type thing (like a freestyle in those games) and you can call spots to try to build to a highspot/finish.
Sounds like fun to me. It's something I'd go for (maybe because I like those timing/dance games)
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| #13 Posted on 19.10.03 1135.28 | Instant Rating: 5.80 | The Japanese Fire Pro Wrestling A 2 had something similar to this. You'd have to wrestle a match in a certain style to advance, keep the crowd into the match, etc. I'm not sure if it was brought over to the US port, much like the sim mode was cut.
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| #14 Posted on 19.10.03 1228.35 | Instant Rating: 6.49 | What's that All Japan game on Dreamcast? Giant Gram 2000 or something? I never played it, but a friend told me it has a mode where you have to recreate certain classic matches. Like, you have to pull off a powerbomb at this right moment and so forth. Sounds interesting, but really not very fun.
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| #15 Posted on 19.10.03 1354.31 | Instant Rating: 5.57 | Maybe they should make a game with all the modes mentioned. A normal season mode like they have now, a mode like rikidozan said (i've never played the games you mentioned but it sounds like that stunt driving game where you have to do certain things at certain times), and a mode were you recreate classic matches. Sort of like how football games have a season, exbition and classics mode.
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| #16 Posted on 19.10.03 1411.02 | Instant Rating: 6.41 | Originally posted by eviljonhunt81
What's that All Japan game on Dreamcast? Giant Gram 2000 or something? I never played it, but a friend told me it has a mode where you have to recreate certain classic matches. Like, you have to pull off a powerbomb at this right moment and so forth. Sounds interesting, but really not very fun.
Giant Gram is my favorite wrestling game of all time, including Fire Pro.
The coolest thing, IMO, about the game is that your created character has to LEARN moves by wrestling opponents. You start as a job boy with no moves and slowly learn them by facing different people and picking and choosing what you want to keep.
Plus, it was the first game to have historical characters, like Fritz Von Erich, Don Leo Johnathan and the Destroyer.
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|  #17 Posted on 20.10.03 1911.20 | Instant Rating: 7.21 | Originally posted by Guru Zim
You know, I can't be the only person who thinks that wrestling games suck.
They just aren't fun. I don't know why everyone wants every new game to be a clone of the last, unfun game.
If you guys like what's already out there - just keep playing it.
Me, I hope someone comes up with a wrestling game that
a) Isn't fucking impossible to control
b) Is fun
c) Has replay value.
For me, none of the games I've played (Giant Gram 2000, Fire Pro D, Smackdown, No Mercy, Raw, and Wrestlemania) have been all of the above for me at the same time.
For me it all comes down to the CAW modes. I used to be happy playing WWF RAW on my SNES doing Razor's Edge's left and right, but now I have to be able to make some REALLY f*cked up characters like a 500 pound gorilla (literally) looking guy who just does shooting star presses or else clones of myself (there's a head in WWE RAW2 that looks like a photo of me, it's scary...)
If I actually have to play as a pre-made wrestler, I get bored of it within a few minutes. Once the thrill of busting threw the side of a Hell in a Cell and climbing to the top is done, getting through matches in most of these games become a chore.
My favorite is still a tie between No Mercy and WCW Revenge for the N64. Fun, pretty cartoonish, but without being stupid.
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