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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.32
Well, the Nirvana box set looks to finally be released on November 23rd, just in time for Christmas.

Titled "With the Lights Out" the 3 CD set will feature 81 tracks, 68 of which have never previously been issued. The tracks include demos, outtakes, and live recordings.

The set will also come with a DVD that shows never before seen footage of the band at rehearsals, recording studios and live shows. It's selling for $59.98.

Glad to see them finally release the damn thing after years of rumors. I enjoyed the release of the Nirvana album a couple years ago, with 'You Know You're Right' on it, but this is what I've been wanting them to release for forever. Looks like it's finally here.






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Since: 12.10.02
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This is what I thought they were releasing the last time but instead just put out the one new song. I'll be adding this to the Seinfeld Box Set on my Xmas List.



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Since: 2.1.02
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As a long time Nirvana fan, I'd caution anyone interested in this boxed set to wait for a full track listing before pre-ordering or listing it as a wanted gift. I'm afraid "You Know You're Right" is going to be the last gem from the vaults; at the time of Kurt's death it was assumed to be the only finished track of value left.

According to Geffen.com (via the Nirvana Fan Club):

"Material for the CDs spans the band's entire history from their inception and includes demos, outtakes and live recordings. The DVD shows never seen before footage of the band at rehearsals, recording studios and live shows."

Some of the "demos" will likely be from the "boombox" recordings, made before "Nevermind" was recorded, from which the long since leaked "Old Age" clip comes. (Incidentally, the full version of "Old Age" is the only as-yet unreleased Nirvana track I'm interested in.) However, that clip sounds bad. Music recorded on inferior equipment usually does.

There were a large number of other tapes that were found after the suicide, consisting mainly of Kurt recording unfinished songs by himself or with an assorted friend or two. They have been mentioned a few times in the last 10 years and Courtney's ex-boyfriend, Geffen A&R (or something) Jim Barber said a year or so ago that they needed "sweetening" (or something) and I'd imagine that if they managed to squeeze some "finished" material (or something) out of that, it'll be in the box.

I'd imagine a great deal of viable outtakes were used as single B-sides and for compilations ("No Alternative," etc.). In fact, I'm pretty sure "Incesticide" ate up most of the unreleased pre-"Nevermind" songs. I think in this case "outtakes" probably means covers, alternate versions or something you've got on another disc somewhere.

Live recordings - "Muddy Banks" took care of that, in the sense of a "Best-of" live album, so I have no idea what they're going for here.

DVD - rumored to have their first ever live performance, from a house party in Hoquiam(?) which the NFC released audio of last year (or maybe earlier this year). I can't imagine footage of them in the studio being wholly interesting, nor footage of them at sound check or at a rehearsal.

Considering this band existed for a mere six years (88-94) and Kurt was notoriously lazy and constantly strung out on drugs, there's really not much that hasn't been released officially to choose from and most of that has already gotten out on the Outcesticide bootlegs.

Honestly, my dumb ass will probably drop $60 bucks on this, because I'm a completist (except I'm not paying out the ass for the "Love Buzz" or "Pennyroyal Tea" singles and personal journals are for scholars to study in the future, not for widows to scrounge up drug money), but I'm afraid this entire box is going to consist of stuff that most artists would ask to be destroyed or at least never shown to the buying public.



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Maybe one of the easter eggs on the DVD will be surveillance footage of Courtney shooting Kurt in the head.

I'm just glad that this boxed set is finally out so my brother (who actually got his hair cut like Cobain in the mid 90's) can finally stop bitching and moaning about their unfulfilled potential. Frankly, I think Nirvana is the most overrated group save the Sex Pistols and the Doors in music history, but hey, different strokes.



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Since: 25.11.02
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    Originally posted by rockstar
    ...I'm afraid this entire box is going to consist of stuff that most artists would ask to be destroyed or at least never shown to the buying public.


This is what bothers me about these types of postmortem releases; obviously the band didn't release this stuff for a reason. Bands record many songs that never make it onto an album, and there's a reason they don't. I feel that releasing "unreleased tracks" just dilutes a band's legacy.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
But this was something that the surviving band members wanted to put out.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.44
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
    But this was something that the surviving band members wanted to put out.


That makes it a little better, I guess, but I still feel it dilutes their catalog. I doubt any artist would do this unless they needed the money; I'm guessing Chris Novoselic is hard up for cash these days.
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Since: 2.1.02
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Track listing (courtesy NFC, via Q Magazine):

CD 1:

1. Heartbreaker*
2. Anorexorcist
3. White, Lace And Strange*
4. Help Me I'm Hungry
5. Mrs Butterworth
6. If You Must
7. Pen Cap Chew
8. Downer
9. Floyd The Barber
10. Raunchola
11. Moby Dick*
12. Beans
13. Don't Want It All
14. Clean Up Before She Comes
15. Polly (solo)
16. About A Girl
17. Blandest
18. Dive
19. They Hung Him On A Cross
20. Grey Goose
21. Ain't It A Shame*
22. Token Eastern Song
23. Even In His Youth
24. Polly

CD 2:

1. Opinion
2. Lithium
3. Been A Son
4. Sliver
5. Where Did You Sleep Last Night*
6. Pay To Play
7. Here She Comes Now
8. Drain You
9. Aneurysm
10. Smells Like Teen Spirit (demo)
11. Breed
12. Verse Chorus Verse
13. Old Age
14. Endless, Nameless
15. Dumb
16. D-7
17. Oh The Guilt
18. Curmudgeon
19. Return Of The Rat
20. Smells Like Teen Spirit (Butch Vig Mix)

CD 3:

1. Rape Me (solo)
2. Rape Me
3. Scentless Apprentice
4. Heart Shaped Box
5. I Hate Myself And I Want To Die
6. Milk It
7. Moist Vagina
8. Gallons Of Running Alcohol Flows Through The Strip
9. The Other Improv
10. Serve The Servants
11. Very Ape
12. Pennyroyal Tea
13. Marigold
14. Sappy aka Verse Chorus Verse
15. Jesus Doesn't Want Me For A Sunbeam*
16. Do Re Mi
17. You Know You're Right
18. All Apologies

DVD:

1. Love Buzz*
2. Scoff
3. About A Girl
4. Big Long Now
5. Immigrant Song*
6. Spank Thru
7. Hairspray Queen
8. School
9. Mr Moustache
10. Big Cheese
11. In Bloom
12. Sappy
13. School
14. Love Buzz
15. Pennyroyal Tea
16. Smells Like Teen Spirit
17. Territorial Pissings
18. Jesus Doesn't Want Me For A Sunbeam*
19. Talk To Me
20. Seasons In The Sun*

*-cover

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The NFC has a list of possible sources for the material here.

The only three songs I've never heard of are "Mrs. Butterworth", "Don't Want it All", and "They Hung Him on a Cross". I'm guessing at least one of these is a "Beans"-esque throwaway.

I've never heard "Moby Dick" (Led Zep cover, bleh), "Grey Goose", "Ain't It A Shame" (standard blues cover), "Seasons in the Sun" (Terry Jacks' cover) or "Token Eastern Song", which I think is also referred to as "Junkyard" on some bootlegs.

"Pay to Play" is an alternate of "Stay Away", also available on DGC Rarities Vol. 1.

I'm going out on a limb and saying that the first half of the first disc is crap.

I was fortunately wrong in that few of the demos come from the pre-Nevermind "boombox" recordings and I'm hoping that "Old Age" comes from the Smart Studios sessions. I seem to also have been wrong about the possiblitly of a lot of the more recent stuff being from Kurt's homemade recordings; unfortunately the recent stuff is mainly alternates of In Utero songs. I was not wrong, however, in that most of this stuff has long since been available on bootlegs or the Internet.

I do suggest "Talk to Me" and "Old Age" to anyone who hasn't heard them; the rest is...blah. I think I'm taking this off my gift request list.



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