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#1 Posted on
According to 411 via 1bullshit, Edge will probably be out a few months rehabbing a neck injury, unless of course he needs neck surgery, in which case he's probably out a year.
Funny how when WCW started going bad, the injury bug really started to hit, while the WWF/E generally was able to keep its roster relatively healthy. Now, once again, its seems that the bug traveled up to Titan Towers with the purchase of WCW.



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#2 Posted on
I don't see where you're going here.

Are you implying guys like Edge are being "hurt" because they're fed up the product?
Are you implying that WCW guys are constantly injured? If so, what does that have to do with Edge?
Are you implying that with bad, uninspired wrestling comes injuries?

What's the deal? All I see in the story is "Edge is hurt" which sucks.



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#3 Posted on
Hmm, nicely missed in all the WWE bashing is the fact that THIS FUCKING SUCKS.



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#4 Posted on

    Originally posted by Parts Unknown
    I don't see where you're going here.

    Are you implying guys like Edge are being "hurt" because they're fed up the product?
    Are you implying that WCW guys are constantly injured? If so, what does that have to do with Edge?
    Are you implying that with bad, uninspired wrestling comes injuries?

    What's the deal? All I see in the story is "Edge is hurt" which sucks.







I wasn't going for bashing, I was going for the cyclical mode of wrestling. Whenever a company is in a downturn, by coincidence, timing, bad luck etc. injuries just seem to pile up. When a company is on the rise, somehow either the injuries are not serious, or their are so few at the top of the roster that they can be worked around.



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I think the WWE has been struggling with this serious injury problem for a long time- since before the whole "WCW" buyout...
And, if I am not mistaken, the WCW guys who did not want to work always had some kind of minor, nagging injury keeping them from competing. I can't recall one who was willing to go under the knife just so he did not have to work....



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#6 Posted on

    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    Hmm, nicely missed in all the WWE bashing is the fact that THIS FUCKING SUCKS.


i don't know how much it sucks; i mean, it sucks for edge that he has to sit home for a while, but he has been getting a bit stale ever since his split with christian. maybe this will give the creative team a chance to freshen up his character a bit.
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#7 Posted on
Plus there's always the chance for a post-injury mega-push. I mean, it worked so well for Kanyon.

Oh... wait...
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#8 Posted on
The WWE should really consider banning certain moves that could result in neck injury. Think about it: the last two times this "neck injury, out for a year" thing happened, it was Benoit and Rhyno. So you have three guys with basically the same injury who do the spear, the gore and the flying headbutt.



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Well, Dave Scherer reported today that it looks like the injury will need surgery. All I can say is that it sucks to see another talent on the shelf for a year.



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#10 Posted on
I don't think WCW suffered from more injuries, I just think Vince was able to work around the injuries. When Austin was out for 2000, we had a year of great PPVs and tv shows.

1 wrestling is now saying that Rhyno will likely replace Edge on the Smackdown side instead of going to Raw. This especially sucks for me. I don't get UPN so I'm suck with the HHH Show. Why don't I get some new good wrestlers? Unless Stone Cold really does shake up the show (doubt it) I don't have many reasons to watch. Jericho, Jazz, Victoria, and Booker T are it.



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#11 Posted on

    Originally posted by Simba
    Well, Dave Scherer reported today that it looks like the injury will need surgery. All I can say is that it sucks to see another talent on the shelf for a year.







Well, if he's out for a year, there are four ways to go with it:
1) The best way, have Team Angle absolutely destroy Edge. Angle can then give promos mocking Edge for having neck surgery, since Angle won a gold medal with a broken neck. Plus, it'll help firmly establish Haas/Benjamin.
2) Have Benoit turn on Edge, thus breaking out his old crippler gimmick. If Lesnar is going to get the belt after Mania, Benoit could be slid in as a contender as a heel. Plus, if he turns on Edge in the six man, by extension he has turned on Lesnar, thus he has issues with him. That, and both Eddy and Benoit being faces at the same time just doesn't feel right.
3) Have Rhyno make his return by destroying Edge. Back story from his days with E&C, so it re-introduces Rhyno, while at the same time could have justification provided.
4) Have Albert destroy Edge, much as he did with Rey. I'm not crazy about the idea, but since he's big and Taker likes him, its always a possibility.

Then again, the other method possible is the good old WWF/E tradition of: Edge? Who's he?



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#12 Posted on
He said that Edge needs the less serious surgery so hopefully we're not looking at a whole year.

Looking at this as a positive for Edge, he's kinda lost in the shuffle right now and it's hurting his progress. By the time he comes back, Rock will be gone, Hogan will hopefully be gone, Nash will have come and gone :), Steiner will probably be gone, HBK is on borrowed time as it is, so they'll be looking for someone fresh to attach a rocket to around that time.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.74

    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    2) Have Benoit turn on Edge, thus breaking out his old crippler gimmick. If Lesnar is going to get the belt after Mania, Benoit could be slid in as a contender as a heel. Plus, if he turns on Edge in the six man, by extension he has turned on Lesnar, thus he has issues with him. That, and both Eddy and Benoit being faces at the same time just doesn't feel right.


Why must EVERYONE want Benoit in title contention? He really IS NOT fit for anything higher then upper mid-card? He has NO acting talent what so ever. You CAN NOT get into the higher bracket if you can't give a decent promo, and for as long as he's been in the business and still can't do this; you might as well give it up, cause it ain't gonna happen, no sir, NOT gonna happen.

And before you mention Brock and Goldberg, they were special cases. They were force fed to us into believing they are worthy and they look like they can beat anyone. Seeing Benoit on the street in regular clothes, you'd think he was just some guy but seeing Lesner or Goldberg on the street in regular clothes, they are still HUGE and frightening, which Benoit is neither.

...well, I suppose the Cerebus bashing can begin.

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#14 Posted on

    Originally posted by Cerebus

      Originally posted by redsoxnation
      2) Have Benoit turn on Edge, thus breaking out his old crippler gimmick. If Lesnar is going to get the belt after Mania, Benoit could be slid in as a contender as a heel. Plus, if he turns on Edge in the six man, by extension he has turned on Lesnar, thus he has issues with him. That, and both Eddy and Benoit being faces at the same time just doesn't feel right.


    Why must EVERYONE want Benoit in title contention? He really IS NOT fit for anything higher then upper mid-card? He has NO acting talent what so ever. You CAN NOT get into the higher bracket if you can't give a decent promo, and for as long as he's been in the business and still can't do this; you might as well give it up, cause it ain't gonna happen, no sir, NOT gonna happen.

    And before you mention Brock and Goldberg, they were special cases. They were force fed to us into believing they are worthy and they look like they can beat anyone. Seeing Benoit on the street in regular clothes, you'd think he was just some guy but seeing Lesner or Goldberg on the street in regular clothes, they are still HUGE and frightening, which Benoit is neither.

    ...well, I suppose the Cerebus bashing can begin.

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Good try, however with Benoit already being an established character, throwing a mouth piece in the mix will only make him look LESS of a threat. A good example is Kurt Angle. He's got Heyman with him, so there is NO WAY he's gonna win against Brock when they finally meet one on one. When Kurt was on his own, he seemed like a legit threat but when you need some one with you(NOT as a tag partner) you don't really look so bad any more. Another one is the Undertaker. Since Paul Bearer isn't around, he gotten much more meaner and threatening.

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#16 Posted on

    Originally posted by Cerebus

      Originally posted by redsoxnation
      2) Have Benoit turn on Edge, thus breaking out his old crippler gimmick. If Lesnar is going to get the belt after Mania, Benoit could be slid in as a contender as a heel. Plus, if he turns on Edge in the six man, by extension he has turned on Lesnar, thus he has issues with him. That, and both Eddy and Benoit being faces at the same time just doesn't feel right.


    Why must EVERYONE want Benoit in title contention? He really IS NOT fit for anything higher then upper mid-card? He has NO acting talent what so ever. You CAN NOT get into the higher bracket if you can't give a decent promo, and for as long as he's been in the business and still can't do this; you might as well give it up, cause it ain't gonna happen, no sir, NOT gonna happen.

    And before you mention Brock and Goldberg, they were special cases. They were force fed to us into believing they are worthy and they look like they can beat anyone. Seeing Benoit on the street in regular clothes, you'd think he was just some guy but seeing Lesner or Goldberg on the street in regular clothes, they are still HUGE and frightening, which Benoit is neither.

    ...well, I suppose the Cerebus bashing can begin.

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I would've agreed not too long ago but I dont anymore.
A) It seems to me that the actual wrestling aspect is getting more and more popular to the fans. i don't know if it's just the "in" thing or if it's because only the real wrestling fans are left. But the fans seem much more interested these days in good matches by Angle, Mysterio, Benoit, Edge, Eddie than they do all the "sports entertainment" stuff, although that could have something to do with bad storylines lately. Just take a look at the last ppv, Benoit left to a standing ovation, and I don't think it will be the last time. I think fans realize how good of a wrestler he is and because of that if he wins the title it will be believable to the fans.

B) Bret Hart wasn't all that special on the mic

C) Shawn Michaels looks like just a normal guy, even more so than Benoit

And Hart and HBK were to two top guys in the company at one point.



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#17 Posted on
From Wade Keller:

Edge's neck injury is serious enough that he will need surgery and could miss around a year of in-ring action as a result. He may participate in Sunday's PPV match in a limited capacity before getting surgery from Dr. Lloyd Youngblood.

The surgery is going to be similar to what Lita, Steve Austin, Rhyno, Bob Holly, and Chris Benoit have all undergone, so he should be able to return a full strength, but the recovery time is lengthy.

Edge had been getting the biggest push of his career at this time, which on the surface makes the timing of his injury unfortunate. However, when he is ready to return, he will be returning as a fresh main event star ready to enter the main event picture right away, not someone who was merely on the verge of becoming a main eventer who needs to reestablish himself with fans (i.e. Rhyno).

Paul Heyman is pushing for Rhyno to take Edge's slot on the Smackdown roster. Heyman first pushed Rhyno as a top star in ECW.


So goodbye to Edge for now.

Wouldn't they put Rey Mysterio Jr. in the 6 man?




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#18 Posted on
Much as I love Benoit in the ring, I'm with Cerebrus on this one.

Sure Michaels wasnt huge, and Bret Harts mic work wasnt stellar (though still better than Benoits IMO) but both of these guys had real charisma in their prime. Back in the day, when they were on my screen I was interested regardless of what they were doing.

Benoit just doesn't do it for me in the same way. His 'heart-felt' promos about his family that he's been cutting lately just didnt interest me in the slightest.

I think he could handle a title run of a month or so, but any longer than that and you'd be looking to the guy to take up a large portion of Smackdown on the mic and in backstage segments, and I just don't see Benoit pulling that off.



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#19 Posted on
That sucks.

I guess either (a) Mysterio is inserted into the match.
(b) This'll probably piss people off but postpone the Taker-Big Show match and put Taker in Edge's place. During the match, have Big Show attack Taker to set up a match at Mania, since Show is still having back problems.



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#20 Posted on
Regarding Benoit, what this proves is that some people will never satisfy everyone. However, the fact that LOTS of people on here don't like HHH doesn't seem to sway anyone else's opinion that he should not be a main eventer. Right now Chris Benoit is one of the most credible people they have on the roster, he consistently draws heat in almost all his matches, and he puts on a very good show for the paying customer in the ring. I don't foresee a long Austin-like WWE title run for Benoit as his character really isn't suited for that. However is a very valuable person to have in the title mix as he gives the title credibility through his work and his character, and I would like to see him given a short run with the big belt.



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Me too, although I'm a little concerned that they might pull the whole match because of the blood -- they don't usually like to show a whole lot of that on UPN primetime.
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