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Okay Football fans, when do you get more excited Saturdays or Sundays? What game do you like more? The pros of the NFL or do you like seeing the college players.



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Clearly the NFL. I like seeing people being paid to play who I know are being paid to play.



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I'm in college, so I'm cheating.

Really, I look forward to Saturday more than I do Sunday, as there are more teams that I want to see crash and burn on Saturday (and more teams I want to see do well ...I wish we weren't playing Marshall, I like them). That being said, the quality of football is better on Sundays.

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I'd give more props to college football if it had a legit playoff system instead of this BCS horsecrap.



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College. Better atmosphere: Bands. Real cheerleaders. Traditions. Real rivalries (not phony ones like the NFL).
Generally better fans (though a few NFL teams have great fans as well) And in this era of free agency in the pros, better continuity for teams year to year.



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For me its definately college football. All the rivalries are bigger than any in the NFL. To me Michigan vesus Ohio State is the biggest college sports rivalry there is. You have nothing like this in the NFL(Jets/Dolphins are about the only one).But I think it is the presteige of winning the national championship and beating your rivals that sets college football ahead of pro for me.
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I won't support College football until the have some kind of playoff system that leads to the championship. Sure the trick plays are fun, and there's some great rivalries, but the BCS is madness. MADNESS!

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Of course, now that Carolina has decided to make me HATE them, I'm not too jazzed about the college basketball season either. It's too hard to catch Minnesota/Arizona/Wyoming games out here in NC.

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Nothin' against Barry Alvarez and the awesome Wisconsin Badgers, but...

    Originally posted by Melon' Head
    All the rivalries are bigger than any in the NFL. To me Michigan vesus Ohio State is the biggest college sports rivalry there is. You have nothing like this in the NFL(Jets/Dolphins are about the only one).


Packers/Bears, anyone? They've played over 150 freakin' games! And Green Bay and Chicago STILL hate each other...and that's just the fans. Or Packers/Vikings? We hate them purple pansies, they hate us. Simple and effective.


    Originally posted by ges7184
    College. Better atmosphere: Bands. Real cheerleaders. Traditions. Real rivalries (not phony ones like the NFL). Generally better fans (though a few NFL teams have great fans as well) And in this era of free agency in the pros, better continuity for teams year to year.


At Lambeau, the cheerleading duties are split between UW-Green Bay (go Fighting Phoenix!) and St. Norbert College. And the Packer Band, though kicked out of the stadium several years ago (damn you Ron Wolf), still plays...they split into 2 groups and roam the parking lot/surrounding area. (Click the Packer logo in my sig to hear 'em!)

Rivalries...see above. And tradition begins and ends in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

(EDIT: A li'l Badger love)

(edited by The Thrill on 5.9.03 0806)


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I grew up in an Ivy League town, went to a small Div III school with a good football tradition and moved to Denver when I got out of college - my first game at Mile High blew me away........College has tradition - the NFL has the Game

that said, I would watch a middling college matchup over a middling pro matchup everytime



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Packers/Bears, anyone? They've played over 150 freakin' games! And Green Bay and Chicago STILL hate each other...and that's just the fans. Or Packers/Vikings? We hate them purple pansies, they hate us. Simple and effective.


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(edited by Melon' Head on 5.9.03 0858)
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And for God's sake, don't forget Browns/Steelers. I'd include the Browns/Ravens, but that's pretty one-sided in the hatred.

NFL vs. college: Tough, tough call. I'll have to say NFL because parity = exciting games across the board. Also, I will *make* time to watch the Browns.



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NFL is clearly the better game. They are more polished, the game is faster, and even if the teams aren't that great, most games mean something since a few game winning streak can put you in the playoffs. There is more talent to be found, and the best teams don't get to schedule Louisiana Tech to pad their record (granted good team still play bad teams, but NFL teams can tschedule cupcakes for themselves, plus even bad NFL teams have a better chance of the upset then a small DI school)

College wise, I got my teams, but I am bored watching anyone else play (unless its a big bowl game). You also dont have that true national champion, as every year it seems there is some sort of controversy, which leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

(edited by Doc_whiskey on 5.9.03 1233)

(edited by Doc_whiskey on 5.9.03 1233)

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College, period. I'm terribly biased, because I grew up in Columbus, and the NFL wasn't even on my radar until I moved to Minneapolis when I was 16.

Sorry NFL fans, but any team that has seven losses should not be able to be the World Champion of ANYTHING.

Say what you want about the BCS (and the poll system before that), but to have a shot a being a champion, you can't have more than one or two losses. And that's how it should be.

Hell, if Nebraska loses more than two games in a season, the whole state slides into a recession.

The atmosphere doesn't even compare. Go to a football game in the South: The guys wear slack and ties; the women are dressed to the nines. Go to Ohio Stadium the morning of the OSU/Michigan game, and you'll find people that have been tailgating for DAYS.

The rivalries are second to none. OSU/Michigan. Auburn/Alabama. Oklahoma/Texas. Notre Dame/Anybody. Hell, Army/Navy is about a heated rivalry as you'll find anywhere, and it attracts a national audience every year. And the teams aren't even that good! Somehow, I don't think anybody (outside of Ohio) finds the Bengals/Browns rivalry all that compelling.

Upsets. Detroit beat the Rams? Big whoop. Boston College upsets Miami? You're still talking about it. Twenty years later. And heaven forbid a bad team have a good season. Gary Barnett has probably gotten more coaches fired in the history of the game just because he got Northwestern to the Rose Bowl.

I'll finish with this, 'cause I really need to get back to work. This will be my first football season on the West Coast. And I'm more concerned about getting up by 7 to catch College GameDay and the early ESPN games than I am about getting up to catch James Brown and the gang over at Fox. Jillian Barberie notwithstanding.



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    Originally posted by Battlezone
    Sorry NFL fans, but any team that has seven losses should not be able to be the World Champion of ANYTHING.




      Has anyone with 7 losses even made it to the super bowl? Yeah teams get more losses, but they play more competitive teams. Most national champions get one maybe 2 tests all year, and then play teams with far inferior talent. Plus, there are powerhouses because those teams have a mjor advantage. While both the Bengals and the Browns are in the same state even same conference, they each have an equal shot of getting a good player, provided they have cap room. You can't tell me Miami of Ohio has just as good a chance of landing a great player as Ohio St. does.

      Look at the quality of the game. One of the most effective plays in college is the option. Granted it is a cool thing to watch if a team can run it well, but how often have you seen that work in the NFL. Rarely. Defenses are better and smarter, and that equivilates into a more competitive game.
      If you need any more evidence, look at ratings for championship games. The college championship comes nowhere near the super bowl.



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Also - which games and in what part of the South do we get all dressed up for the games? I realize that Carolina and Duke rarely field decent teams, but we fill our stadiums (at least Carolina does). And I don't see women dressed to the nines or guys in ties at the NC State games either.

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    Has anyone with 7 losses even made it to the super bowl? Yeah teams get more losses, but they play more competitive teams. Most national champions get one maybe 2 tests all year, and then play teams with far inferior talent.


Please. The Big 12, Big 10, and SEC are stacked top to bottom every year. Unlike, say the NFC North, where the only good team is Green Bay, and even *they're* mediocre (apologies to The Thrill). Ohio State, to use the example everyone else does, won SEVEN games by a touchdown or less. Only one of those (Cincinnati) was a team that was a major underdog. Sounds pretty competitive to me.

I don't know if a NFL team has made it to the Super Bowl with seven losses, but I know a few wild card teams have made it to the Super Bowl recently, and they tend to have 5 or 6 losses. Maybe someone with better Google skills than myself can verify?


    Plus, there are powerhouses because those teams have a mjor advantage. While both the Bengals and the Browns are in the same state even same conference, they each have an equal shot of getting a good player, provided they have cap room. You can't tell me Miami of Ohio has just as good a chance of landing a great player as Ohio St. does.


If you're going to use the same conference analogy for the NFL, you have to do the same for college. Considering that, having followed recruiting in the past, I've seen top prep stars choose a Minnesota or Indiana over an Ohio State before. It happens. I've seen Ohio State turn down quality players only to have them bite them in the ass in a bowl game (hello, South Carolina!). Does Miami recruit from the same base as Ohio State? No, but neither does Oakland and Cincinnati when it comes to free agents.


    Look at the quality of the game. One of the most effective plays in college is the option. Granted it is a cool thing to watch if a team can run it well, but how often have you seen that work in the NFL. Rarely.


Both Dallas and Atlanta have implemented the option into their offenses this year. Whether it will work or not is another question, namely because Quincy Carter is questionable at the NFL level, and Vick's hurt.

Besides, if you've noticed, fewer and fewer college teams run the option exclusively anymore. Even Nebraska is taking a step back from it. Why? Because defenses are getting stronger, smarter, and quicker. You can thank Bobby Bowden for that.

EDIT: Jag, I sat in the student section for the Georgia/Tennesee game last year, and I distinctly remember asking students when and why they did that.

Their answer? Every week and tradition. I've also been told the same thing happens at South Carolina and Auburn. Maybe it's an SEC thing.

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Oooooh. *That* South.

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The NFL is definitely more competitive and often has some excellent games to watch. However, there's nothing like the atmosphere at college football games. Of course, I'm kinda biased - I'm at all the Canes games, including tomorrow's HUUUUUUGE UM-UF game, for free! (the perks of being a student) ;-P



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Uh, Battle?

Once again, what are you talking about? We don't dress up here - we just make you go blind during a day game. Must be those crazy Georgia fans. (Come to the return game here and see what I mean.) Now, yeah, there are some people that dress, but I'll put $10 down that 95% of them are in some frat or sorority (and at least 75% of those are newbies); for everyone else, it's all about comfort and home colors. Now, I'm not going to deny that it sounds stupid enough to be a SEC tradition (we've got some boneheaded ones here), it's just not one that I (or about 85% of the population - minimum - in Neyland on gameday) take part in.

(Edited for clarification purposes and heresuch.)

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