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LAST WEEK'S SEEDING IN PARENTHESIS
NFC
1. (1) NY Giants (4-1, NFC East Champions)
2. (7) Tampa Bay (4-2, NFC South Champions). Won three-way divisional tiebreaker with Carolina and Atlanta with a head-to-head win over both teams. Won tiebreaker with Arizona with a better record in conference games (4-1).
3. (3) Arizona (4-2, NFC West Champions). Lost tiebreaker with Tampa Bay with a worse record in conference games (2-1).
4. (11) Green Bay (3-3, NFC North Champions). Won three-way divisional tiebreaker with Chicago and Minnesota with a better record in divisional games (2-0).
5. (5) Washington (4-2). Won divisional tiebreaker with Dallas with a head-to-head win. Won tiebreaker with Carolina with a better record in conference games (4-2).
6. (6) Dallas (4-2). Lost divisional tiebreaker with Washington with a head-to-head loss. Won tiebreaker with Carolina with a better record among common opponents. At season's end the two teams common opponents will be Green Bay, Tampa Bay, Arizona, and the NY Giants. So far Dallas is 1-1 against those teams.
7. (2) Carolina (4-2). Lost divisional tiebreaker with Tampa Bay with a head-to-head loss and won divisional tiebreaker with Atlanta with a head-to-head win. Lost tiebreaker to Washington with a worse record in conference games (2-3) and lost tiebreaker to Dallas with a worse record in common games (Green Bay, Tampa Bay, Arizona, and NY Giants, under which Carolina is currently 0-1).
8. (8) Atlanta (4-2). Lost divisional tiebreakers with Tampa Bay and Carolina with head-to-head losses.
9. (9) New Orleans (3-3). Won three-way tiebreaker over Philadelphia and Chicago with a better record in conference games (2-2).
10. (4) Chicago (3-3). Lost divisional tiebreaker with Green Bay and won divisional tiebreaker with Minnesota based on divisional record (1-0), and won tiebreaker with Philadelphia with a head-to-head win.
11. (12) Minnesota (3-3). Lost divisional tiebreaker with Green Bay and Chicago with a worse record in divisional games(1-1). Won tiebreaker with Philadelphia with a better record in conference games (3-1).
12. (13) Philadelphia (3-3). Lost tiebreaker with New Orleans and Minnesota with a worse record in conference games (2-3) and lost tiebreaker to Chicago with a head-to-head-loss.
13. (10) San Francisco (2-4)
14. (14) Seattle (1-4). Won divisional tiebreaker with St. Louis with a head-to-head win.
15. (15) St. Louis (1-4). Lost divisional tiebreaker to Seattle with a head-to-head loss.
16. (16) Detroit (0-5)

AFC
1. (1) Tennessee (5-0, AFC South Champions)
2. (2) Pittsburgh (4-1, AFC North Champions). Won tiebreaker with Buffalo with a better record in conference games (4-0).
3. (3) Buffalo (4-1, AFC East Champions). Lost tiebreaker with Pittsburgh with a worse record in conference games (2-0).
4. (4) Denver (4-2, AFC West Champions)
5. (6) Indianapolis (3-2). Won tiebreaker with New England with a better record in conference games (2-1).
6. (5) New England (3-2). Won divisional tiebreaker with NY Jets with a head-to-head win, and lost tiebreaker with Indianapolis with a worse record in conference games (2-2).
7. (8) NY Jets (3-2). Lost divisional tiebreaker to New England with a head-to-head loss.
8. (10) San Diego (3-3). Won tiebreaker with Jacksonville with a better record in conference games (3-2).
9. (11) Jacksonvillee (3-3). Lost tiebreaker with San Diego with a worse record in conference games (3-3).
10. (9) Miami (2-3). Won tiebreaker with Baltimore with a better record in conference games (2-2).
11. (7) Baltimore (2-3). Won divisional tiebreaker with Cleveland with a head-to-head win, and lost tiebreaker with Miami with a worse record in conference games (2-3).
12. (12) Cleveland (2-3). Lost divisional tiebreaker with Baltimore with a head-to-head loss.
13. (13) Oakland (1-4). Won divisional tiebreaker with Kansas City with a head-to-head win. Won tiebreaker with Houston with a better record in conference games (1-3).
14. (14) Kansas City (1-4). Lost divisional tiebreaker with Oakland with a head-to-head loss. Won tiebreaker with Houston with a better record in conference games (1-2).
15. (15) Houston (1-4). Lost tiebreakers with Oakland and Kansas City with a worse record in conference games (1-4).
16. (16) Cincinnati (0-6)
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Question on the 4-2 tiebreakers in the NFC: Shouldn't Dallas be dropped as all ties are broken in division first, thus they would lose with Washington and then the remainder of conference tie breakers be used with the other teams, with Dallas already by the wayside?
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Question on the 4-2 tiebreakers in the NFC: Shouldn't Dallas be dropped as all ties are broken in division first, thus they would lose with Washington and then the remainder of conference tie breakers be used with the other teams, with Dallas already by the wayside?


No. You do divisional tiebreakers first, then conference tiebreakers, but once the conference ties are broken you start all over again instead of seeding the teams. Example:

WAS, DAL, CAR, and ATL are all 4-2.

WAS > DAL due to head-to-head.
CAR > ATL due to head-to-head.

WAS > CAR due to conference record - Washington is the #5 seed.

NOW you put Dallas into Washington's spot and break the DAL-CAR tie (since CAR still beats ATL).

Mr. Boffo's projecting of the common games isn't the way *I* was doing it and I don't think it's technically correct, but as he illustrates DAL does have a better record in games that have been played between common teams so far. Since the minimum is four common opponents played, I would have passed this and gone to the next tiebreaker - strength of victory.

CAR > DAL (CAR's SOV is .478 vs. DAL's SOV .347) - Carolina is the #6 seed.

Then if you wanted to keep going you would break the Dallas-Atlanta tie for 7th using conference record.

(edited by JayJayDean on 14.10.08 0744)


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    Originally posted by JayJayDean

    Mr. Boffo's projecting of the common games isn't the way *I* was doing it and I don't think it's technically correct, but as he illustrates DAL does have a better record in games that have been played between common teams so far. Since the minimum is four common opponents played, I would have passed this and gone to the next tiebreaker - strength of victory.

I understand not counting it because it's not yet four common opponents. But my thinking is that it's a gray area because these are only official tiebreakers after week 17. And at that point, there will be 4 common games. (It's similiar to the people on wikipedia doing the Line of succession to the British throne: the British government only official recognizes the first 30 or so people. After that it's increasingly unlikely that it will ever matter.) It's very possible that those two teams will no longer be tied, but I think it's useful to recognize that at this time, one team has an advantage over the other.
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