Originally posted by Big BadEli Manning, two-time Super Bowl champion. During the postgame, we were all discussing how this now probably makes Eli a HOF lock unless he totally falls off the map for the rest of his career.
Jim Plunkett was a two-time Super Bowl winner (and one-time Super Bowl MVP) who didn't make the HoF. I don't have an opinion on Eli and the Hall (too soon), just wanted to mention Plunkett.
Outside of the two Super Bowl years, Plunkett had exactly ZERO good seasons. He was on a LOADED team when they won those SBs and they didn't win because of his QB play. (see also Trent Dilfer owning a ring)
For the love of GOD I am sick of hearing how it was stupid to go for a TD. A) it means you have ZERO respect or faith in your defense. B) It cuts the field basically in half for the Pats if they have to only get a FG. C) Never before has anybody said "you know, we shouldn't try to score a TD in a close game against one of the best QBs in Super Bowl history, we should try to make it a closer game than that" Plus, criticize it all they want, the Giants will be getting a big shiny ring, and the pats won't, and that's all that matters.
Originally posted by lotjxthey needed to get a TD, because Brady even with 20 seconds would have found a way to get a field goal to win.
I'm skeptical. One completion in bounds pretty much ends the game.
We have routinely seen Brady pull shit out of his ass and the Pats win Super Bowls on last second FG not TDs.
It happened twice. Neither of those occurrences were similar to last night's situation.
SB XXXVI: The Rams kicked off with 1:30 remaining after tying the score at 17. The Patriots started at their own 17 with 1:21 to go. Sufficient time remained that the Patriots were able to spike the ball and stop the clock THREE TIMES on that drive.
SB XXXVIII: The Panthers kicked off with 1:08 remaining after tying the score at 29. The kickoff went out of bounds, giving the Patriots the ball at the 40. They ran six plays (including one nullified by offensive pass interference, which also stopped the clock).
If the Giants kick a FG with :20 they are ahead 18-17 and their biggest worry isn't even Brady and the Pats' offense, it is that their special teams doesn't somehow screw it up and allow a big play.
Holy fuck shit motherfucker shit. Read comics. Fuck shit shit fuck shit I sold out when I did my job. Fuck fuck fuck shit fuck. Sorry had to do it....
Revenge of the Sith = one thumb up from me. Fuck shit. I want to tittie fuck your ass. -- The Guinness. to Cerebus
I never felt good about the game even when the Pats had the lead, it just didn't feel like it was big enough. It must have really sucked to be a Bills fan in the 90's. It's a crappy feeling losing two in five years, I can't imagine four in four.
I thought Belichick had a solid game plan in place guys were either looking the wrong way on defense, dropping balls or just doing uncharacteristically dumb things.
Originally posted by lotjxMy fear of Brady outweighs rational thought. Even still, to me getting the FG is easier than the TD.
Having thought about it a bit more, I still think letting the Giants score was the right thing to do *but* if you force them to go for a FG then Tynes has to step up and make the kick. Granted it was a chip shot but his earlier FGs just snuck inside the left upright, kicking to try and change a losing position to a winning position in the dying seconds is the greatest pressure a kicker can face and Billy Cundiff really wasn't that long ago.
Not the turnover I was referring to, rather the other pain in the ass that comes around this time of year, Favre's "retirement-nonretirement-stay retired-alright I'll play again" crap that Packer fans like me got sick of 4-5 years ago.