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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.63
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5219486

A cold weather Super Bowl is a great idea. Maybe a Giants/Jets Super Bowl would be possible.
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I've always felt like the Super Bowl *should* be played in cities with potential for crummy weather. I don't like warm-weather venues and *hate* the domes.

Maybe this will open the door for other non-tropical cities like Chicago and Green Bay to host. Though I supposed seating capacities is a large factor...
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I love it only because I'm still hoping and dreaming for a DC area Superbowl.





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I think the day Green Bay hosts a Super Bowl* is the day the NFL consists of only the Green Bay Packers and the relocated Toronto Browns.

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*It absolutely KILLS me that there are so many people in the United States who STILL haven't figured out that Super Bowl is two words, with both words capitalized. Seriously people. It's not even an understandable mistake. /rantmodeoff
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.35
    Originally posted by StingArmy

    *It absolutely KILLS me that there are so many people in the United States who STILL haven't figured out that Super Bowl is two words, with both words capitalized. Seriously people. It's not even an understandable mistake. /rantmodeoff


I had it lowercase with one word and Firefox's spell check spit out "Superbowl" as the correct spelling. Guess I need to edit the spell check.



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This will go wrong. The NFL is asking for trouble and they(NFL) thought Houston had a traffic problem!

(edited by CajunMan on 25.5.10 2029)
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.88
    Originally posted by djp
    I've always felt like the Super Bowl *should* be played in cities with potential for crummy weather. I don't like warm-weather venues and *hate* the domes.

    Maybe this will open the door for other non-tropical cities like Chicago and Green Bay to host. Though I supposed seating capacities is a large factor...



You must like $hitty football games?
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.79
    Originally posted by CajunMan
      Originally posted by djp
      I've always felt like the Super Bowl *should* be played in cities with potential for crummy weather. I don't like warm-weather venues and *hate* the domes.

      Maybe this will open the door for other non-tropical cities like Chicago and Green Bay to host. Though I supposed seating capacities is a large factor...



    You must like $hitty football games?



Yeah....the weather didn't really make Super Bowl 41 more enjoyable to watch.



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    Originally posted by Kevintripod
      Originally posted by CajunMan
        Originally posted by djp
        I've always felt like the Super Bowl *should* be played in cities with potential for crummy weather. I don't like warm-weather venues and *hate* the domes.

        Maybe this will open the door for other non-tropical cities like Chicago and Green Bay to host. Though I supposed seating capacities is a large factor...



      You must like $hitty football games?



    Yeah....the weather didn't really make Super Bowl 41 more enjoyable to watch.


NY rain is not exactly Miami rain in Jan/Feb. Here is another way to look at it,

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/news/story?id=5217833

(edited by CajunMan on 25.5.10 2055)
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.58
    Originally posted by CajunMan
      Originally posted by djp
      I've always felt like the Super Bowl *should* be played in cities with potential for crummy weather. I don't like warm-weather venues and *hate* the domes.

      Maybe this will open the door for other non-tropical cities like Chicago and Green Bay to host. Though I supposed seating capacities is a large factor...



    You must like $hitty football games?


If by $hitty you mean cold, dirty and nasty, then yes, I like $hitty football games. There is nothing football about climate control.
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I don't remember anyone thinking the Ice Bowl was a bad game. It's perfectly possible to have a good game in the elements, so a bad weather SB isn't the worst idea. People will go to it regardless.

Green Bay will never ever get a Super Bowl again. Ever. They don't even have enough hotels for regular season games.

(edited by Psycho Penguin on 25.5.10 2303)


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    Originally posted by Psycho Penguin
    I don't remember anyone thinking the Ice Bowl was a bad game.


The Ice Bowl? That's as topical as you could get, huh?

They also played an NFC championship game in Green Bay three years ago - one we *actually* do remember - and other than Tom Coughlin's cheeks that seemed like it was a pretty well-played game considering the temperature. The "Tuck Rule" game was played in a blizzard and both teams moved the ball in that game, too.


    Green Bay will never ever get a Super Bowl again. Ever.


They've never *had* one. Ever.



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The NFL runs from September to early February with games played at stadiums which are predominantly outdoors. Adverse conditions (and the overcoming thereof) are a significant part of many games. Personal preferences for style of football aside the idea that we shouldn't, once in a blue moon, have a Super Bowl played in bad weather is just silly.
Did you even *read* that article or did you just get as far as the headline and get all giddy about once again posting a link in favour of constructing an intelligent argument yourself?

I'm guessing the former, because if you HAD read it you would realise the point of the article was that large sporting events in general rarely generate the revenue they are projected to for local economies. I guess your "other way to look at it" is, what, scrap the Super Bowl altogether because it might not make as much money as some people suggest?

At least read your own source material, firfucksake.
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    Originally posted by JayJayDean
      Originally posted by Psycho Penguin
      I don't remember anyone thinking the Ice Bowl was a bad game.


    The Ice Bowl? That's as topical as you could get, huh?

    They also played an NFC championship game in Green Bay three years ago - one we *actually* do remember - and other than Tom Coughlin's cheeks that seemed like it was a pretty well-played game considering the temperature. The "Tuck Rule" game was played in a blizzard and both teams moved the ball in that game, too.


      Green Bay will never ever get a Super Bowl again. Ever.


    They've never *had* one. Ever.


I don't know who pissed in your corn flakes, but sorry I don't have a comprehensive list of 'good games played in the elements'. Probably because there's quite a few now that it's not really a big deal. The Ice Bowl is one of the more famous ones.. hence it having the name.



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    Originally posted by dMr
    The NFL runs from September to early February with games played at stadiums which are predominantly outdoors. Adverse conditions (and the overcoming thereof) are a significant part of many games. Personal preferences for style of football aside the idea that we shouldn't, once in a blue moon, have a Super Bowl played in bad weather is just silly.
    Did you even *read* that article or did you just get as far as the headline and get all giddy about once again posting a link in favour of constructing an intelligent argument yourself?

    I'm guessing the former, because if you HAD read it you would realise the point of the article was that large sporting events in general rarely generate the revenue they are projected to for local economies. I guess your "other way to look at it" is, what, scrap the Super Bowl altogether because it might not make as much money as some people suggest?

    At least read your own source material, firfucksake.


Yep that is what I was talking about, glad you noticed! Now where did I or the article say scrap the SB??? Glad you read!

(edited by CajunMan on 26.5.10 1035)
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What argument, exactly, are you refuting with the Ice Bowl reference? I've never heard anyone argue against a Super Bowl in a cold, outdoor environment on the grounds that there have never been any exciting games in such conditions. The argument is, the game has changed so much in the 40-plus years since the Ice Bowl that it's a pretty ridiculous comparison. Here, off the top of my head, are a few differences between football today and football in 1967:

- Greater overall speed
- Much more specialized skill players on offense
- Greater emphasis on precision and creativity in the passing game
- Power running being relegated to a secondary tool for many teams

Given this, a snowy, windy day is certainly not conducive to great games. It's certainly much more of a detriment than it was in the 1960s. Hell, the tuck rule game was less than a decade ago and already the style of play has changed dramatically from then to now.

Also, how many people who praise the Ice Bowl have actually seen the game? I'm going to go out on a limb and guess "not many." Why does the fact that it went to overtime mean it was automatically a great game? The game has gotten this mythical place in the sport's history exclusively based on the weather, and while displaying the toughness and focus necessary to battle those elements is certainly impressive, it's hardly the only way to put on a good game. Playing good football in any weather is another way to put on a good game.

All this said, I don't particularly care one way or the other about this decision, because in any outdoor stadium weather, be it snow or rain or wind or whatever, is a potential factor, so unless they go domes-only for the Super Bowl, it just doesn't seem to matter much. But the Ice Bowl is certainly an irrelevant comparison.



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    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    Why does the fact that it went to overtime mean it was automatically a great game?

Well, obviously you've never watched the game, since it DIDN'T go into overtime. The sneak by Starr was in lieu of a field goal that would have sent it into OT.

I don't disagree with the rest of your premise. I'm not sure that a bad weather site guarantees a bad game, but it IS more likely to be "bad" due to the possibility of adverse weather.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
It's seemed like the media is 100% against this, with the stated reason being the weather affecting the game.

I think the reality is they all see the Super Bowl as a one or two week vacation and much rather go some place warm to get out of the cold.



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.51
    Originally posted by Sec19Row53
      Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      Why does the fact that it went to overtime mean it was automatically a great game?

    Well, obviously you've never watched the game, since it DIDN'T go into overtime. The sneak by Starr was in lieu of a field goal that would have sent it into OT.


D'oh, I knew that. I was thinking of the 1958 title game between the Giants and Colts when I said it went to overtime overtime. But I also never claimed to have seen the game.

Like a lot of people, I assume, the only part I've ever seen is Starr's sneak, and perhaps an odd clip here and there from some NFL Films special. My overall point, that the game is remembered as "great" more for the weather than the execution of the players, remains.

(edited by TheBucsFan on 26.5.10 1156)


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