well everything new is old again, or something like that! The Wrestling Observer is reporting Jim Ross is back full time starting tonight. Guess Joey is the voice of ECW so he should be involved in the start up but it is quite a demotion from Voice of RAW to Voice of ECW. I am happy to hear J.R. is coming abck though because he can carry a show or PPV through a bad spot or dull moment much better than Joey ever could.
I would have liked to have seen how a Styles/Lawler team could have done over a period of time without The Coach. I think it would have worked out better (as it is, you have to fight for airtime with both Coach and Lawler in there, and Styles just doesn't seem like he's willing to do that). J.R. does a better job with the Coach, but I'm not a fan of three man booths nor am I a fan of Coachman. They need to get him out of there, regardless of what they do with the other two positions.
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Have they explained why or how Ross got his job back (in storyline terms, of course)?
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Originally posted by BattlezoneHave they explained why or how Ross got his job back (in storyline terms, of course)?
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No. He was just there when the PPV started and, save for a few tongue-in-cheek comments from JR about maybe losing his job again, they acted as if he'd never been gone.
Maybe with him commentating on Mania they thought people would just take it as JR doing all the PPV's from then on, so they may address it whenever he takes over on Raw again. I wouldn't count on it though.
Either way I'm not complaining. I don't like JR's work at all thesedays, but I still prefer him to Styles.
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I'm a little surprised they didn't work this into an angle somehow, just went out and did it. With all the talk about RVD and how he can transition to ECW, there must have been some way they could have transitioned Styles to ECW instead of this. Have him get into it with Coach or even Lawler about ECW on the air, leave in a huff, or even lose a match that stipulates he leaves the broadcast booth. Especially if they pitch ECW as slightly "renegade" it would have helped to have Styles there as a thumbing of the nose at others.
Maybe I'm, like, stupid or something, but I don't get what was so bad about Styles. He sounded like he was working WWE style to me. He was developing storylines and not calling every move. He was marking adequately for Cena. I thought he was easily the best announcer working, far better than the highly overrated Michael Cole.
I haven't heard any of the JR comebacks, but by the time he got kicked off Raw, he was bad, really bad. His announcing had turned into an odd mix of incompetence and condescension. This is bad news -- and by the way, actually does make me less likely to watch Raw, contrary to all those who say announcers don't affect ratings.
What upsets me most is, back when it was just JR and Lawler in the booth I trained myself not to hear the announcers. I could watch the whole program and not be bothered by them that way. When Styles joined the team, I had to retrain myself not to ignore them, and I had finally just got to the point where I was listening to them again. Now I gotta re-retrain my ears.
Personally, I like this move. Styles was the voice of ECW, so it makes sense to move him back their. I liked the way Styles called all of the moves by name. I don't know if his style fit in WWE, but I thought it fit ECW very well. Jim Ross is tolerable and he works well with Lawler. Coachman can disappear for all I care. As far as explaining JR's return in terms of storyline, let's not forget who we are dealing with. How's this for an explanation - "Cuz I am Vince McMahon, and I said so." It's not like they care about continuity anyway.
I thought Ross and King were very entertaining together from 1998 to about 2002. Its hard to pinpoint when their act started getting stale.
The E really needs to develop a new color man, not the Coach. Honky would be too much to ask, but there are some current and former wrestlers who would be excellent. Someone with a quick wit like Kurt Angle or HHH.
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Originally posted by Matt TrackerCoach and Lawler would have worked fine by themselves.
We've had that a lot and it was about the worst thing ever. So bad, in October, that they had to bring in Joey Styles, who they don't like at all. But like I said when they first brought J.R. back for SNME, it wouldn't be right for the life trajectories of Vince McMahon and Jim Ross for Vince to not have to bring Ross back against his original wishes yet again. It's the circle of life. (Also, Ross being way better than Styles is a bonus.)
Anybody who watched Backlash and still came away wishing for the Coach/Lawler/Styles combo to continue needs their head checked. JR may be a non-factor for the weekly shows, but he's invaluable for PPVs.
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Originally posted by canis582The E really needs to develop a new color man, not the Coach. Honky would be too much to ask, but there are some current and former wrestlers who would be excellent. Someone with a quick wit like Kurt Angle or HHH.
Triple H would be perfect, but he's most likely gonna wrestle for as long as Flair has.
How about Kevin Nash ? Out of the ring, isn't he known for having a great wit ?
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