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ACC (top 4): Last 5 conf champs, 1999-2000: FSU (National Champs, 1999), 2001: Maryland, 2002-2003: FSU
rankteamconf
record
overallnotes
1tVirginia4-17-13 conf games left; plays Miami, VT
1tVirginia Tech4-17-23 conf games left; plays Virginia, Miami
3Florida State5-27-21 conf game left
4Miami, FL3-26-23 conf games left; plays Virginia,

Big XII: Last 5 conf champs, 1999: Nebraska (North), 2000: Oklahoma (South) (National Champs), 2001: Colorado (North), 2002: Oklahoma (South), 2003: Kansas State (North)
North (top 5):
rankteamconf
record
overallnotes
1tIowa State3-35-42 conf games left; plays Kansas State, Missouri
1tNebraska3-35-42 conf games left; plays Oklahoma, Colorado
3tColorado2-45-42 conf games left; plays Kansas State, Nebraska
3tMissouri2-44-52 conf games left; plays Kansas, Iowa State
3tKansas State2-44-52 conf game left; Colorado, Iowa State

South (top 2):
rankteamconf
record
overallnotes
1Oklahoma6-09-0****Clinches Big XII South title with Texas conf loss; 2 conf games left; plays Nebraska
2Texas5-18-12 conf games left;

Big East (top 4): Last 5 conf champs, 1999: VT, 2000-2002: Miami, FL (National Champs, 2001), 2003: WV and Miami, FL
rankteamconf
record
overallnotes
1West Virginia4-08-1****Clinches at least share of title with win over Pitt or (win over BC & Syracuse conf loss)
2Syracuse3-15-42 conf games left; plays Temple, BC
3Boston College2-16-23 conf games left; plays WV, Temple, Syracuse
4Pittsburgh3-25-31 conf game left; plays WV

Big Ten (top 4): Last 5 conf champs, 1999: Wisconsin, 2000 (tie): Michigan and Northwestern and Purdue, 2001: Illinois, 2002 (tie): Iowa and Ohio State (National Champs), 2003: Michigan
rankteamconf
record
overallnotes
1tWisconsin6-09-0****Clinches BCS bowl and share of title by winning out; 2 conf games left; plays Michigan State, Iowa
1tMichigan6-08-12 conf games left; plays Northwestern, OSU
3Iowa5-17-22 conf games left; plays Minnesota, Wisconsin
4Northwestern4-25-42 conf games left; plays Michigan, Illinois

Pac-10 (top 4): Last 5 conf champs, 1999: Standford, 2000 (tie): Oregon and Oregon State and Washington, 2001: Oregon, 2002 (tie): USC and Washington State, 2003: USC (Co-National Champs)
rankteamconf
record
overallnotes
1USC6-09-0****Clinches title with conf win and Cal conf loss; 2 conf games left; plays Arizona, UCLA
2California5-17-12 conf games left; plays Washington, Stanford
3Arizona State4-27-22 conf games left; plays Washington State, Arizona
4Oregon4-25-42 conf games left; plays UCLA, Oregon State

SEC: Last 5 conf champs, 1999: Alabama (West), 2000: Florida (East), 2001: LSU (West), 2002: Georgia (East), 2003: LSU (west) (Co-National Champs)
East (top 2):
rankteamconf
record
overallnotes
1Georgia6-18-1****Clinches SEC East with Tennessee conf loss; 1 conf game left; plays Auburn
2Tennessee5-17-22 conf games left; plays Vandy, Kentucky

West (top 2):
rankteamconf
record
overallnotes
1Auburn6-09-0****Clinches SEC West with a conf win or LSU conf loss; 2 conf games left; plays Georgia, Alabama
2LSU3-26-23 conf games left; plays Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas
BCS Top 6
1. USC (Pac-10 leader)
2. Oklahoma (Big XII leader)
3. Auburn (SEC leader)
4. Cal (Pac-10)
5. Wisconsin (Big Ten leader)
6. Texas (Big XII)

Other Conference Leaders
ACC: Virginia (my choice, as they are tied with VT)
Big East: WV

BCS Bowl Projections
Orange (BCS #1 vs BCS #2): USC (Pac-10 leader) vs Oklahoma (Big XII leader)
Sugar (SEC vs At-large): Auburn (SEC Leader) vs WV (Big East leader, at-large)
Fiesta (Big XII vs At-large): Texas (Big XII at-large) vs Virginia (ACC leader, at-large)*They lost their champ to the BCS #1 slot, they choose first from the at-large pool
Rose (Big Ten Champ vs Pac-10 Champ): Wisconsin (Big Ten leader) vs Cal (Pac-10 at-large) *They lost their champ to the BCS #2 slot, they choose second from at-large pool)


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Just to completely screw up the BCS, Utah will finish in the top 6 AND the Iowa State/Nebraska survivor that finishes 4-4 in conference and 6-5 overall will win the Big 12 title game to ensure that California and Texas both miss the BCS games.



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    Originally posted by Grimis
    Just to completely screw up the BCS, Utah will finish in the top 6 ...

No, they won't. Even if they win out, their strength of schedule will only drop from here on out. Not judging, just sayin'.



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No mention of Notre Dame being bowl eligabl?. Don't be surprised if they beat USC to totally throw things out of control. I expect them to play either Miami or Florida State since it will be a money game for both schools, hosts and not matter in the grand schemes of things.



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The way this year is going, I think the full chaos theory hits the BCS bowls.

Orange: California (1 loss, not conference champion) vs. Oklahoma.

Sugar: Auburn (1 loss) vs. West Virginia

Rose: USC (1 loss Pac-10 Champs who skin their knee in a major 7 turnover upset against Notre Dame, and bitching that a team they beat and finished ahead of in conference is playing for a national title) vs. Wisconsin (unbeaten Big Ten Champs and bitching about getting stuck in the Rose when a non-conference Champ, 1 loss team plays for the National Title ).

Fiesta: Utah(unbeaten and getting in the game when Texas screws up against A@M) vs. Miami.

And I thought last years BCS bowl games had no interest. If this happens, and it doesn't take to many variables for this to hit, people will be calling either for a playoff or for the old rigged pre-BCS system where at least fans got match-ups that interested them.

For Notre Dame to be BCS eligible, they need either 9 wins or to be in the Top 12 in the final BCS standings. Due to screwing up against BYU and BC, they can only get to 8 if they run the table. However, a Notre Dame vs. FSU (or Miami should they not win the ACC) Gator Bowl probably would do better numbers than BCS Bowls. Actually, the non-BCS games could theoretically get decent to good Texas, Notre Dame, FSU, Miami, Florida, Ohio State, Georgia, LSU, Tenn., and Michigan teams that would be big ticket and TV draws.




(edited by redsoxnation on 8.11.04 1547)

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IF Miami can run the Conf table, there could be a 3-way tie for the ACC title. Who would get the Bowl bid? That would be a good question.

(edited by Zeruel on 8.11.04 1612)



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    Originally posted by Zeruel
    IF Miami can run the Conf table, there could be a 3-way tie for the ACC title. Who would get the Bowl bid? That would be a good question.

    (edited by Zeruel on 8.11.04 1612)





For Miami to run the table, they would have to beat both Virginia and Virginia Tech. Tech and Virgina play each other, so in that scenario, one would have 3 losses. That would leave the winner of Tech/Virginia, Miami and FSU tied (should FSU run the conference table as well). Under these circumstances, Miami gets the Conference title since they would have won head to head vs. FSU and the winner of Tech/Virginia.



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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    That would leave the winner of Tech/Virginia, Miami and FSU tied (should FSU run the conference table as well). Under these circumstances, Miami gets the Conference title since they would have won head to head vs. FSU and the winner of Tech/Virginia.


I looked into this more deeply.

Under this senario:

Miami is 2-0 against FSU and Virginia, FSU is 1-1 against Miami and Virginia (They do not play VT), and Virginia are 0-2 against Miami and FSU.
Miami is Team A
FSU is Team B
VA is Team C

1. If Team A is ranked higher than Teams B and C, Team A earns the BCS bid.
2. If Team A is not the highest ranked, but is in the Top 10, Team A earns bid unless Team B or C is ranked either #1 or #2 in the BCS standings, then Team B or C receives the BCS bid.
3. If Team A is not ranked, but the highest ranked team in the mini-conference is ranked #21 or lower, Team A earns the BCS bid.
4. If Team A is not the highest ranked team and is ranked more than five spots below the highest ranked team in the mini-conference, Team A is eliminated from consideration.

Subsequently,
1. If Team B is ranked higher than Team C, Team B earns the BCS bid.
2. If Team B is ranked lower than Team C, but is in the Top 10, Team B earns bid unless Team C is ranked either #1 or #2 in the BCS standings, then Team C receives the BCS bid.
3. If Team B is ranked lower than Team C, but ranked five or fewer spots below Team C, Team B earns bid, unless Team C is ranked either #1 or #2 in the BCS standings, then Team C receives the BCS bid.
4. If Team B is ranked lower than Team C, but is ranked six or more spots below Team C, Team C earns the BCS bid.

With the help of http://theacc.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/092204aad.html

Actually Google helped. The search feature of the ACC official site will only return search results older than one year (for me at least).




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Then again, maybe everyone will get what they want, and we'll have an Oklahoma vs USC national championship game. Only it'll be a year too late.

Personally, I don't want to see Utah in the BCS. Put them in the Liberty Bowl or something. Since these teams won't be in the title game anyway, I wish the non-BCS conference teams would quit bitching about lack of access to the big games. There's a reason that they don't get invited; no one really wants to see them on New Year's Day.

As for California in the Title Game, I think that would certainly be the death knell for the BCS. It's very heavily based on polls now, and we all know that with the polls, it's a LOT better to lose in week one rather than November because of all the time you have to make up the spots that you lost. I don't see why they kept eliminating aspects of the BCS formula. I know that it was never perfect or anything, but at least it attempted to do more than "average the poll rankings." If the BCS would just go away, we'd get things like Big 10 vs Pac 10 Rose Bowls and split National Champions. You know, things the way they ought to be!
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    Originally posted by Sec19Row53
      Originally posted by Grimis
      Just to completely screw up the BCS, Utah will finish in the top 6 ...

    No, they won't. Even if they win out, their strength of schedule will only drop from here on out. Not judging, just sayin'.


...aaaand they're already down to 7 in the BCS standings. Only way they can move up is for a bunch of teams ahead to start losing hardcore.

Has the BCS been more irrelevant (or at least unable to justify its existence) than this year? Now it's almost all poll, along with some comp rankings.



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    Originally posted by A Fan
    No mention of Notre Dame being bowl eligabl?. Don't be surprised if they beat USC to totally throw things out of control.


No, if Notre Dame wins at Southern Cal, be quite surprised.



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Come on, Scott, they gave Michigan their only lose and probably the one thing keeping them from the Big Ten title. They went to Tennesse and won there. USC will be a tough game, but I think they will pull it out. They rise to the level of their opponetts unless its Purdue, I just don't know what happened in that game.



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