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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.33
(picked this forum because it has the NCAA logo.)

This is surprising, the NCAA will not renew it's agreement with EA; the NCAA football that came out is the last NCAA Football game.

This all about the Ed O'Bannon/"athletes should be paid for being used in video games" case. NCAA thinks they're in the right, but don't want to pay for any more years of being wrong should the case turn out that way. That also means someone did the math and the NCAA makes less money from the video game than they would have to give up paying the lawsuit (which seems surprising.)

The press release notes individual universities retain their rights and are able to include them in video games if they'd like. It's then possible that this doesn't change much but some logos and name - EA's College Football '15 is still possible if the schools agree.

In a pie in a sky world, all the schools band together to get their money, realize they got their money without the NCAA, and the NCAA is suddenly very vulnerable to needed changes. It seems more likely at least some schools will follow the NCAA's lead and any game will be lesser quality, if EA decides it's worth doing at all.

The O'Bannon case is still a year away from reaching court, assuming it's not settled before then. It feels like there are changes that are going to eventually happen regardless, but I wish that case was resolved already so we'd know how swift and painful those changes are going to be.



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.60
    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    The press release notes individual universities retain their rights and are able to include them in video games if they'd like. It's then possible that this doesn't change much but some logos and name - EA's College Football '15 is still possible if the schools agree.
This sounds in the press release like some great undertaking where every college, bowl, conference, Heisman trust, etc. would all have to agree or be left off the game. In actualily, there is already a separate body that just about everyone and everything belongs to and that can negotiate jointly with EA (and in fact did so for the previous games), called the Collegiate Licensing Company. The website of the CLC appears to be down from everybody learning of its existence, but supposedly this list has every institution and body of significance with the exception of, of course, Notre Dame.

Bottom line is that unless the CLC is also terrified of O'Bannon (which would be understandable), then EA College Football '15 is almost assured of happening.

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So yeah, nothing should be different except the title.

(edited by hansen9j on 17.7.13 1432)


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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.75
Yep, nothing different except the title.

Which could be said for every NCAA Football game over the past seven or so years, really.

Be nice if this means the EA exclusive deal is done, so some other company can take a crack at making a college football game again.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.21
    Originally posted by wmatistic
    Yep, nothing different except the title.

    Which could be said for every NCAA Football game over the past seven or so years, really.

    Be nice if this means the EA exclusive deal is done, so some other company can take a crack at making a college football game again.


Heh. Actually, in all fairness, the presentation, loading times, recruiting and so on in NCAA Football 11 are significantly better than in '09. I went to GameStop about a month ago to pick up a replacement copy of '09, and went ahead and got '11 to see if I'd like it better.

Despite the fact I have an 11-year dynasty in '09, I like '11 so much better that I haven't touched '09 since.

(I always stay a year or two back on these sports titles, anyway).

Anyway, if this means EA continues with College Football minus the NCAA licensing, 'dascool. I would hate to have no college football game to play just as Old Dominion is getting into the FBS, man!



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.33
EA says they weren't going to renew their deal with NCAA anyway. Well, the exclusive portion anyway, as part of the settlement of the EA anti-trust case.

2K or someone cut also cut a deal with the CLC to make their own console game, though there's no sign of that actually happening.



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    Originally posted by wmatistic
    Yep, nothing different except the title.

    Which could be said for every NCAA Football game over the past seven or so years, really.

    Be nice if this means the EA exclusive deal is done, so some other company can take a crack at making a college football game again.


These are the words of a person who obviously hasn't played NCAA Football 14.



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I played the demo actually. It was okay, just feels the same as any Madden/NCAA game I've played really. Probably lots of little differences a person who plays all the time every year would notice. But I don't have the time I used to for that sort of thing, so whether I'm played a four year old version or the newest one, it's just not different enough for me to care.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.33
SEC pulling out their branding/logos.

This seems to matter a tiny bit more than the NCAA stuff going away, but still not a tremendous amount even if every conference followed suit. (Not sure they will, everyone else seems to have trouble keeping up with the SEC.) It'd be awkward to be seeing the 'wrong' logos for conferences, but it's not like they have the right names for players and players deal with that.

It does make me wonder what the breaking point for EA is. If individual schools start pulling out, is it still a sellable game?



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It was updated. The Big Ten and PAC-12 are out too.



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    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    It does make me wonder what the breaking point for EA is. If individual schools start pulling out, is it still a sellable game?


I would suspect that EA already has 2015's game allocated for with budgets and time and all that, so it should be an interesting test to see what the returns are on the game and whether they move forward, or if they find that they need to double-down and try to entice the schools and conferences (or NCAA) to come back if they are going to make more titles.

I find it somewhat hilarious that the NCAA is FINALLY going to a playoff (which would have been a legit reason to wait on 2015's title) and all this uncertainty surrounds the game. Maybe EA will expand their TeamBuilder capabilities so THEY don't have to recreate all the schools, they leave it up to fans who will do it for them.



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Kotaku says SEC will be in after all, but 1 school from this year's game will be out of the next. 2 schools who's logos were available in the team builder section have also asked out.

We need to get a pool together. I will pick...IDAHO.



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Siiiiiigh. Well, we better enjoy the NCAA Football games we have, 'cuz they may be the last ones for a long, long time.



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    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    Siiiiiigh. Well, we better enjoy the NCAA Football games we have, 'cuz they may be the last ones for a long, long time.


The only way this works well for players is if this forces EA to be hyper-aggressive in making the game as tight as possible since this seems like in some ways going back to Bill Walsh College Football 97.



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Nah, it has to be a school with enough money/ego to say no. I guess BYU.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.33
Hey, thread title is correct.

Boo, thread title is correct.

    Originally posted by EA
    Today I am sad to announce that we will not be publishing a new college football game next year, and we are evaluating our plan for the future of the franchise.

    We have been stuck in the middle of a dispute between the NCAA and student-athletes who seek compensation for playing college football. ... Meanwhile, the NCAA and a number of conferences have withdrawn their support of our game. The ongoing legal issues combined with increased questions surrounding schools and conferences have left us in a difficult position – one that challenges our ability to deliver an authentic sports experience, which is the very foundation of EA SPORTS games.


(edited by thecubsfan on 26.9.13 1558)


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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.55
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9728042/ea-sports-stop-producing-college-football-game

More info. EA settled the class action that has about 200,000 to 300,000 former athletes.



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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

Someone's going to make some dough selling 2014 roster updates next summer.

The good news is that I will finally get to see what happens at the end of a 30-year dynasty run in about a year and a half.

(Actually, who am I kidding, I've got GTA V in the PS3 and that thing is NEVER coming out.)



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I didn't see this part when I posted originally, but I think the settlement has more to do with the series shut down. EA's stuck with making the players even less like real life (which makes the game have no point) or paying the players for being in the game, only they're not allowed to actually do that. This game can't come back until EA can negotiate with the players before a lawsuit.



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.55
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9731696/ea-sports-clc-settle-lawsuits-40-million-source

New update. The settlement was for $40 million and current players can join the class action. At 300,000 players, that is about $133.33 each (assuming that is after legal fees)



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