I started from ESPN's list of teams that have already accepted bowl bids, then took each conference's bowl rules to figure them all out. EDIT: Texas passed Cal in the BCS, and therefore took their spot in the Rose Bowl. This changed all of the Big 12 and Pac-10 bowl matchups. The odd team out (only one bowl eligible to not make it): Akron. Man, you'd think a MAC team would rank ahead of the #2 team from the Sun Belt, but who knows? In the interest of full disclosure, Purdue and Minnesota swapped bowls for some reason, as did LSU and Tennessee. Otherwise, I guess I proved that there is some sense to the bowls.
New Orleans Bowl
North Texas (Sun Belt)
Southern Mississippi (Conference USA)
Champ Sports Bowl
Syracuse (Big East)
Georgia Tech (ACC)
Memphis (Conference USA)
Bowling Green (MAC)
Fort Worth Bowl
Cincinnati (Conference USA)
Las Vegas Bowl
Alabama-Birmingham (Conference USA)
MPC Computers Bowl
Fresno State (WAC)
Motor City Bowl
Connecticut (Big East)
Miami University (MAC)
Iowa State (Big 12)
Oregon State (Pac-10)
Notre Dame (IND)
Colorado (Big 12)
Texas-El Paso (WAC)
Ohio State (Big 10)
Oklahoma State (Big 12)
Continental Tire Bowl
Boston College (Big East)
North Carolina (ACC)
New Mexico (MWC)
Texas Tech (Big 12)
Silicon Valley Classic
Troy (Sun Belt)
Northern Illinois (MAC)
Music City Bowl
Purdue (Big 10)
Arizona State (Pac-10)
Minnesota (Big 10)
Louisville (Conference USA)
Boise State (WAC)
University of Miami (ACC)
Wisconsin (Big 10)
Texas A&M (Big 12)
West Virginia (Big East)
Florida State (ACC)
Capital One Bowl
Iowa (Big 10)
Louisiana State (SEC)
Michigan (Big 10)
Texas (Big 12)
Pittsburgh (Big East)
Virginia Tech (ACC)
Southern California (Pac-10)
Oklahoma (Big 12)
(edited by Mr. Boffo on 5.12.04 2202) NOTE: The above post makes no sense. We apologize for the inconvenience.
I checked to here because I thought it would be the quickest route to bowl predictions and voila, here it was fresh and new.
Colorado could possibly hurt Oklahoma in the computers due to strength of schedule, while Tennessee could only help Auburn, so it's possible the 2/3 switch might happen, putting Auburn in the Orange Bowl. The Fiesta Bowl automatically gets Big XII champ OK, and the Sugar Bowl has to take VA Tech, ACC champ, but losing Auburn gives the Sugar Bowl the first pick at either Utah or Pitt. Pitt vs. VT is a great grudge match and OK vs. Utah would probably be awesome. Far better than Utah vs. Pitt and Auburn vs. VT. And at least OK vs. Utah would eliminate one team from the list of unbeatens to bitch about after the bowls.
The Rose Bowl looks like poo; an archaic conference alliance protects Michigan and Cal here. Given the projected lineup if OK retains #2, I'd rather see Michigan face Pitt, Utah against VT and Aub vs. Cal, just because those look more game than handicapped match. Cal vs. Michigan is a decent match if both teams bring their A+ games, but the Fiesta and Sugar Bowls get the shaft. Now that I think about it, the Big East is as much a part of the problem as anything else.
I can't not see the call for playoffs getting louder after this season.
The close win by Auburn against Tennessee coupled with Oklahoma's rout of Colorado probably ensures Oklahoma remains ahead enough in the polls to counter any loss of S.O.S. in the computers, thus causing Oklahoma/USC in the Orange Bowl. The HUGE question is whether Cal barely surviving Southern Miss (1 point game last 6 minutes before a blocked P.A.T. made it 3 instead of tied and a late touchdown made it 10) knocks Cal down enough votes in the polls to vault Texas to 4 and Cal out of the BCS. Now, I don't like Texas. However, I dislike The Tournament of Roses Committee even more, thus them losing their precious Pac 10/Big 10 matchup would be worth Texas in a BCS Bowl.
You came close, Boffo......you got the big three right, but the Rose Bowl will be Michigan/Texas. No idea where Cal ends up in all of this.
The powers that be in the NCAA would dearly, dearly, love Virginia Tech to pull off an upset.
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All updated now, and double-checked with ESPN. Nothing major was wrong, there were just a few bowls where they choose a different team than normally expected. I just don't really get how Texas passed Cal. Looking at the BCS numbers from the week before, Cal was 4th in both the polls, while the computers had them 6th. Texas was 6 and 5th in the polls, and 4th in the computer. The final rankings had the rank the same in all 3 major categories. So this means that there were only relatively minor changes. Let's get down into the actual raw numbers. In last week's rankings, Cal lead Texas by .0015 in the BCS average. Cal's lead over Texas in the AP poll dropped by 23 points. In other words, about 1/3 (23 of the 65) of the pollsters moved Texas ahead of Cal in the final week. This component dropped Cal's BCS average by .0047. Cal's lead over over Texas in the coaches poll dropped 43 points (among 61 voters). This probably means about 2/3 of the voters moved Texas ahead of Cal in the final week. This dropped Cal's BCS average by .0094. Texas' lead over Cal in the computer rankings did not change at all between week 7 and the final. Texas' did the same in each of the computer polls, while Cal did better in two of the polls, and stayed the same in the 4 others. There was no change in Cal's computer rankings because the two that went up were the highest and the lowest (which get thrown out of the average anyway).
So there you have it. Cal lost its spot because of the two major polls (it would have lost its spot even if only one poll did what it did). What could be bad news for the BCS, however, is the fact that Cal finished ahead of Texas in both polls, but ended up behind it in the total. Just like Oklahoma and USC last year. Maybe this won't matter because Cal wasn't at the top, but I'd be suprised if there wans't some grumbling.
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The Rose Bowl had a great story in Cal's first potential Rose Bowl appearance in 40+ years and the committee threw it away. Michigan-Texas has as much appeal to me as a football fan as Cal-Texas Tech. I'm disgusted and I feel bad for my Mom (Cal '52) - she was getting ready to head for Pasadena. You won't see her in San Diego.
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Well, count me among the few who love the Rose Bowl matchup. Sure, I would've loved to have seen a Big 10/Pac 10 matchup, but now finally Michigan can play in a Rose Bowl where the other team doesn't have a natural home-field advantage. Plus, I'm going to Pasadena, so I'd be excited with any opponent for UM.
I'M laughing my ass off at the fact that Miami and Florida are playing in the Chick-fil-A Holy Crap We Screwed the Pooch Bowl on December 31. Hi-frickin-larious.
Gotta love all the Michigan/Big 10 hatred among college football fans.
Now, Cal did end up getting screwed a bit by the BCS system. That sucks. However, it just seems that every year SOME team ends up getting hurt and we should thank god that this year, it didn't leave the national championship question murky. Um, oops...
Anyways, I'm with J Shaft. I was fine with either of Michigan's Rose Bowl matchups, but Texas is just a little better. It gets a little annoying having a 75% Pac-10 audience at the Rose Bowl because of its location.
Originally posted by Reverend J ShaftI'M laughing my ass off at the fact that Miami and Florida are playing in the Chick-fil-A Holy Crap We Screwed the Pooch Bowl on December 31. Hi-frickin-larious.
(edited by Reverend J Shaft on 6.12.04 0922)
Just what UM wanted for a consolation bowl game, I'm sure...to be bludgeoned out of the Suger Bowl (I make no whinery out of this game...Virginia Tech just beat the crap out of Miami, period) and facing an opponent that will be about 48 different types of motivated to go out and kill, especially with Zook leaving and ESPECIALLY after the comeback Miami pulled off last year. It's not what any Miami fan in their right mind would want to face up against in a midcard bowl game.
Of course, that said Atlanta is a 4 1/2 hour drive from here and I'm shopping for tickets right now.
(edited by Blanket Jackson on 6.12.04 1230) ""We may boo Santa Claus and throw frozen batteries in the end zone, but we don't throw $7 beers. We don't waste those." -Spurs forward and Philadelphia native Malik Rose, speaking on the Pacers-Pistons incident
Miami really blew it on Saturday. I think it all fell in the first drive. Va Tech got the ball first and had to punt it early with Miami having great field position. They marched down the field with ease to the 10 yard line but the center got a 15-yard major penalty (which was never shown on TV what he did) which pushed them way back to 1st and 25 and the offense never got back on track... I thought if that major penalty never happened and Miami scored in their first drive, it could have certainly snowballed into a Miami win at home, but that penalty really took the wind out of their sails.
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""We may boo Santa Claus and throw frozen batteries in the end zone, but we don't throw $7 beers. We don't waste those." -Spurs forward and Philadelphia native Malik Rose, speaking on the Pacers-Pistons incident
If I get the time, I'm going to do these playoffs on the ol' PS2. The at-large bids and seedings were tabulated by averaging the six BCS computer rankings, with no regard to the human polls after the Texas/Cal funny business occurred. Also, in the event of a tie (there were three, including #1 between USC and Oklahoma) the tiebreaker was highest-opponent defeated, thus Oklahoma is #1 based on their win vs. Texas.
For these purposes, Syracuse is the Big East Champion by winning the tiebreaker over Pittsburgh, West Virginia, and Boston College.
AUTOMATIC BIDS: ACC - Virginia Tech (10-2) Big East - Syracuse (6-5) via tiebreaker Big Ten - Michigan (9-2) via tiebreaker Big XII - Oklahoma (12-0) C-USA - Louisville (10-1) MAC - Toledo (9-3) MWC - Utah (11-0) Pac-10 - USC (12-0) SEC - Auburn (12-0) Sun Belt - North Texas (7-4) WAC - Boise State (11-0)
GROUP ONE First-round game: #17 Texas A&M at #16 Michigan Second-round games: TAMU/Michigan winner at #1 Oklahoma and #9 Virginia Tech at #8 Georgia Quarterfinals: Second-round winners at home of higher seed
GROUP TWO First-round game: #18 Syracuse at #15 Arizona State Second-round games: Syracuse/ASU winner at #2 USC and #10 LSU at #7 Boise State Quarterfinals: Second-round winners at home of higher seed
GROUP THREE First-round game: #19 Toledo at #14 Tennessee Second-round games: Toledo/Tennessee winner at #3 Auburn and #11 Iowa at #6 California Quarterfinals: Second-round winners at home of higher seed
GROUP FOUR First-round game: #20 North Texas at #13 Miami-FL Second-round games: UNT/Miami winner at #4 Texas and #12 Louisville at #5 Utah Quarterfinals: Second-round winners at home of higher seed
Four group winners advance to semifinal doubleheader at Superdome in New Orleans: Group 1 winner vs. Group 4 winner and Group 2 winner vs. Group 3 winner, January 1. 2005
Championship Game at Orange Bowl, January 15, 2005
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Round one (North Texas gets higher seed than Syracuse due to record) Week 16 Dec 10-11:
#24 Virginia (ACC) @ #9 Bosie State (WAC Champion) #23 Wisconsin (Big Ten) @ #10 Louisville (CUSA Champion) #22 FSU (ACC) @ #11 Iowa (Big Ten Co-champ) #21 Tennessee (SEC) @ #12 *Michigan (Big Ten Co-champ) #20 Miami FL (ACC) @ #13 Pittsburgh (Big East Co-champ) #19 LSU (SEC) @ #14 West Virginia (Big East Co-champ) #18 Syracuse (Big East Champion) @ #15 Boston College (Big East Co-champ) #17 North Texas (Sun Belt Champion) @ #16 Toledo (MAC Champion)
Round Two Week 17 Dec 17-18:
Match A -- Lowest seed @ #1 USC (Pac-10 Champion) Match B -- 2nd Lowest seed @ #2 Oklahoma (Big XII Champion) Match C -- 3rd Losest seed @ #3 Auburn (SEC Champion) Match D -- 4th Lowest seed @ #4 Texas (Big XII) Match E -- 4th Highest seed @ #5 Cal (Pac-10) Match F -- 3rd Highest seed @ #6 Utah (MWC Champion) Match G -- 2nd Highest seed @ #7 Georgia (SEC) Match H -- Highest seed @ #8 Virginia Tech (ACC Champion)
Quarter Finals (Held at the Orange, Rose, Fiesta & Sugar bowls, and they choose which bracket to host in that order) Week 18 Dec 24-25: Winner of Match H vs Winner of Match A Winner of Match F vs Winner of Match C
Winner of Match G vs Winner of Match B Winner of Match E vs Winner of Match D
Semis (Held at the Orange and Rose Bowls) Week 19 Dec 31-Jan 1: Winner of H/A vs Winner of F/C Winner of G/B vs Winner of E/D
Final (Held at the Orange bowl) Jan 8th
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