Originally posted by JustinShapiroI think it was the low standard of NBC that had people taking for granted the idea that the whole season would air as ordered.
I loved Arrested Development, but I always knew its ratings were not good and the saga of whether or not it would survive was pretty much part of its story from Day 1. (Or at least from Pier Pressure, when I started watching.)
On the other hand, I knew Community's ratings didn't match those of its Thursday-night peers, but I didn't think they were awful (by NBC standards) and just assumed that the awesomeness of the show would keep it around as part of the Thursday-night block. The idea that Community wouldn't last the season never even crossed my mind. If you're going to stink up the joint, ratings-wise, may as well keep the show with the small (but vocal and devoted) following.
On the topic of network comedies that more people should be watching, Happy Endings is surprisingly good.
Count me as one of those who is blindsided by this. I just assumed that people started watching the Thursday Night Lineup with Community and they built up slightly through the night and went to bed or changed the channel when Whitney came on.
So me being naive I was surprised to see this from the link above ...
elevision, like any other commercial endeavor, is an exercise in generating revenue. According to a recent Ad Age report, Community generates $93,533 per 30-second spot. Yes, this is a far cry from The Office’s $178,840 price tag or time-slot competitor The Big Bang Theory’s $198,348. The show’s most recent episode grabbed only 3.5 million total viewers, but NBC should be used to low ratings by now.
The gap between Community and The Office IS THAT BIG?
Wait a minute, "8:30-9 p.m. – Are you there, Chelsea? (beginning Jan. 11)" PLEASE God tell me somebody hasn't given the least funny person since Sarah Silverman a show on NETWORK TV and basically blew off Community.If Chelsea Handler appears on my TV, I'll kill somebody. (Admittedly, I haven't googled this, so I could be WAY off base)
Originally posted by StaggerLeeWait a minute, "8:30-9 p.m. – Are you there, Chelsea? (beginning Jan. 11)" PLEASE God tell me somebody hasn't given the least funny person since Sarah Silverman a show on NETWORK TV and basically blew off Community.If Chelsea Handler appears on my TV, I'll kill somebody. (Admittedly, I haven't googled this, so I could be WAY off base)
Originally posted by BigDaddyLocoThe gap between Community and The Office IS THAT BIG?
Yes, and the gap between their ratings in the key young adults demographic is similar. (ETA: Also, at one time (it might still be), The Office's audience was one of the most affluent in TV.) And FWIW, Whitney's rating is about 50% higher than Community in that same demo. If NBC can get similar, Whitney-type ratings for the Chelsea show (which might be considered a complementary show to Whitney), then that's a win for NBC and they should find that out. If they can't, Community comes back sooner.
This thread makes me miss your weekly ratings posts, Mr. Boffo.
I just do not understand the love for community. I have given it three tries and find it remarkably unfunny. Fortunately, there is stuff on against it I like.
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It can't be that big of a surprise that Whitney stays on the air, and Community does not. There is a long history of off-beat, breaking the mold type comedies that never draw ratings, while more formulaic, laugh track sitcoms stay on the air forever. There is a reason Arrested Development is gone, but Two and a Half Men lives on. It sucks, but it is hard to be angry, when you know it will happen eventually.
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A friend of mine was pretty upset when they announced the Maria Bello version, but he works at the local PBS station and felt "betrayed." I tried to watch an (NBC) episode, but it seemed like a very '80s cop show.
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Originally posted by StaggerLeeGood lord, not only is she IN the show, but it's "roughly based on her life"? Goddamnitsomuch.
Yeah, Laura Prepon plays Chelsea, and Chelsea Handler plays her older sister Sloane.
Haha! This reminds me of Lewis Black's joke about flying out to Hollywood to audition for a character based on himself and not getting the role. Basically, telling him that he wasn't good enough an actor to play himself.
Originally posted by CerebusHaha! This reminds me of Lewis Black's joke about flying out to Hollywood to audition for a character based on himself and not getting the role. Basically, telling him that he wasn't good enough an actor to play himself.
I can see that happening to Chelsea Handler.
The same thing happened with Abed on Community. It was originally based off of Dan Harmon's friend. It was written for him, he even auditioned for the part, and didn't get the role. I can't see anyone but Danny Pudi in that role now, but that's just how Hollywood works.
Then again, come a year from now, we probably won't be seeing anyone playing Abed and that blows. My hope is that they at least get a shortened 4th season so we can see them graduate because, really, we're too far invested at this point that cancellation now feels like cutting it too short, but the reality is that it all depends on how the new NBC shows go, what pilots they pick up, and whether Community fits into NBC's plans for the 2012-2013 season. (It should, considering the crap they're picking up like New Munsters)
Originally posted by jfkfcHmm...so I guess I'm the only one upset about Prime Suspect being cancelled? REALLY solid show, IMO.
Well, it hasn't been, officially. It was taken off the midseason schedule, and production has been halted, so the chances of it being canceled are pretty darn high, but it's not certain yet.
But, yeah, I'll be upset if/when it happens. Bello was good and I liked the tough nature of the relationships among the detectives, as opposed to everybody being like one family on most workplace dramas.
I love the Office... but this was bad television. Within five minutes I could tell they were turning the night guard from goodfellas into the scapegoat for Office's weak mafia episode. I am not one to love Jim & Pam... although I appreciate them.