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I don't think that David Stern saw this coming, but he MIGHT want to rethink this for next year and beyond. There has been mention on recent Sonics' games that they need to keep up their pace of wins, because although they would be the #3 seed in the West, if they have a worse record than the #6 seed, the will NOT have home-court advantage in the first round of the playoffs. "OK," I say.

HOWEVER, today I looked at the NBA Eastern Conference standings and saw and interesting possibility. (Interesting, not in a good way, I think.)

Right now the Eastern Conference playoff seeds would look like this:

1. Miami (30-13)
2. Cleveland (24-16)
3. Philadelphia (19-21)
4. Washington (25-15)
5. Detroit (23-18)
6. Orlando (22-19)
7. Chicago (21-19)
8. Indiana (20-19)

So, despite having a record WORSE than both Washington AND Detroit, the Magic would have the home court in Game 7 against the Sixers, while the Wizards and Pistons, both with superior records to Orlando, would play each other, and the Pistons would be on the road for a Game 7? Would the Pistons deliberately tank a couple of games to drop down to the sixth seed in this scenario? They already could've done that to get out of playing the top-seeded Heat in the second round, but now they would have even more incentive to do so.



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Wow, just seeing Cleveland, Orlando, CHICAGO, and WASHINGTON in the playoff picture is rather unreal compared to last year.



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That's how the playoff works. The similar situation last year with the Nets and Pistons. Detroit was the 3rd seed but 5-7 games better - but the rule is "win the division, get a top seed" so the Nets get #2. But when the two teams played in the second round, the Pistons had homecourt since they had a better record.

*shrug* The Atlantic is the worst division in the NBA and it seems like none of the five teams really wants to win it - but someone has to win and get that #3 seed.

And subsequently get bounced in the first round. ;)

(edited by Kawshen on 26.1.05 1809)



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It wasn't SO bad last year when there were only two divisions per conference, though, as something like this seems less likely from a math point of view. The old way it would have gone (1) Miami, (2) Cleveland, (3) Washington, right? MAYBE a team with the fourth or fifth-best record at worst gets bumped up to the #2 seed? In this case the team with the EIGHTH-best record is #3, and it would be BETTER for a team to be #6 than #5.

Last year, the only way this could've affected things would be if the #2 seed had a worse record than the #7 seed, which would've NEVER happened. I didn't like how they reseeded for round 2 with a #3 getting home-court over a #2 (with a worse record), but I didn't think it was totally unfair, and no one got rewarded for losing, as could be the case this year.

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Well, who wouldn't want to get the #6 seed and get the Atlantic Division champion in the first round? Every Atlantic Division team-- every one of them-- sucks, and none of them deserve to make the playoffs. The only reason we're gonna have an Atlantic representative this year is because it's mandatory.

Still, it's fucked up in a lot of ways. Let's say we went into the playoffs with those eight teams in those positions. The Pacers upset the Heat in the first round, beat the Wizards or Pistons in round two, and make it to the Eastern Conference Finals. The 76ers, somehow, get lucky and beat Orlando and Cleveland, 'cuz, I don't know, Grant Hill and LeBron James get injured or something.

It's crazy that the #8 seed could have home-court advantage for the Eastern Conference Finals against a #3 seed. Not that I would complain if that exact scenario took place, don't get me wrong!

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    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    The only reason we're gonna have an Atlantic representative this year is because it's mandatory.


To be accurate, there'd likely be an Atlantic team in the playoff even without the automatic qualifier.


8 Boston --- ATL
9 Philadelphia 0.5 ATL
10 Toronto 2.0 ATL
11 New York 2.0 ATL
12 New Jersey 3.5 ATL
13 Milwaukee 3.5 CEN


It's unlikely the Bucks would pass all of those teams and be denied a slot in the playoffs (though it's closer than it was a couple weeks ago.) Becuase they're grouped together and right at the line, an Atlantic team would be in the playoffs regardless of the auto qualifer. They just get face a 6 instead of a 1.



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wizards fever, baby!


Seriously, they might be the best turn around without adding a lottery pick since Indiana.

If they can trade the underage draft pick to ANYONE and get a middling big man, it could get wacky, but that's not likely.

You have to wonder, did Abe Pollin already turn this team over to the AOL guy? Because AOL guy has no hockey to worry about, but Abe has not made a single good move in years.





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What's amazing is that Larry Hughes goes down and the team doesn't collapse on itself.

I look at them like the NFL Pats. Not one HUGE megastar on the team, but a team of solid performers that get the job done.

With the way they're playing, they're a solid lock for the 4th or 5th seed, and have an outside shot at the top three.

They got swept by Miami, right? So the need to finish with a better record, and are currently 5.5 games back.




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