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#41 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.36
I agree that the Lakers usually do well with their backs against the wall, but their backs WERE against the wall in game 2 and they were an inch away from dropping that game as well. I definitely think L.A. will win one of the next two, but it might take facing elimination for them to finally pull one out.

Re: Darko...the best sign I've seen in the past year at a Pistons game (well, besides "We Beat Kidd, Not Wives") was "Darko - The Human Victory Cigar."



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#42 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.59
I find the whole Darko situation to be the most fascinatingly/hilariously ironic situation of the whole NBA playoffs. Detroit lucks into the #2 pick overall, he turns into a huge bust, and they STILL make the finals (and could quite possibly win). Darko might end up with a ring, while it could be years, if ever, before LeBron or Carmelo end up with one.

p.s. Detroit's going to win. The Lakers had better call up the Wizard of Oz, since they need some heart.



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#43 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.96
    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Detroit lucks into the #2 pick overall, he turns into a huge bust, and they STILL make the finals (and could quite possibly win).


I don't think I'd call it a bust. Maybe a little disappointing, but nothing unexpected. Darko debuted in the NBA on a top team...you're not going to get much playing time, especially when Ben Wallace is in your position. Anthony and James were put on teams that pretty much sucked, so of course they are going to get playing time. They had to take anything they could get.

Don't get me wrong, at the beginning of the year I would have liked to see Anthony show up in Detroit, but if that would have happened I doubt they would have been able to sign Rasheed, so it all worked out for the best. I think Darko will break out late next year or maybe in his third year...although whether he stays around Detroit when that happens is another story.



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#44 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.47
WOW, what a game. I was at the Palace last night and it was like a 4 hour party. At least one in every 5 fans had the Big Ben afro. The fans were frickin' merciless towards Kobe (and rightfully so). I think Detroiters have had a little inferiority complex as far as this series goes, because half the conversations I had with my buddies and heard elsewhere around the arena was about the media disrespecting the Pistons.

Lakers could just not stop our backcourt last night. Chauncey and Rip owned Fisher and Kobe offensively (though in Kobe’s defense, it seemed like he had to do everything last night). I shudder to think what the Pistons could do if Rasheed could keep from getting his first two fouls in the first quarter OF EVERY GAME!! Who knows, his sitting out may be helping us. And you know it's over when the Human Victory Cigar gets a couple of minutes. (And he's not a bust... yet. For crying out loud, it's been ONE frickin' year. We may never find out how good he can actually be unless/until Larry leaves)

Anyways, if one thing is apparent about this series, it’s this: EVERYONE is the national media is clueless when it comes to this series. I don’t mean that they’re disrespecting the Pistons, I mean they just don’t have clue 1 about how the series will unfold and who the big players are. Everyone at PTI (especially Wilbon), Around the Horn, ABC, ESPN, none of them could analyze the series if they had a crystal ball and a time-traveling Delorean. Tim Legler’s the most hilarious though. Before game 1, “the Pistons have no chance”. Before game 2, “the Pistons could make this a series.” Before game 3, “the Pistons have no chance.” High comedy. He’s as great an analyst as he was a player.

I haven’t a clue what game 4 will bring, but I’m ready for another pahhh-tay at the Palace.


EDIT: Oh, and the biggest slappy in the media is good ol JR, Jim Rome. The punk of smack actually said the Pistons were finished after Kobe hit the game 2 shot that everyone is creaming themselves over (MJ comparisons .... PLEASE.). Like to hear what that chump has to say now.




(edited by Reverend J Shaft on 11.6.04 1033)
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#45 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.96
    Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft
    Anyways, if one thing is apparent about this series, it’s this: EVERYONE is the national media is clueless when it comes to this series. I don’t mean that they’re disrespecting the Pistons, I mean they just don’t have clue 1 about how the series will unfold and who the big players are. Everyone at PTI (especially Wilbon), Around the Horn, ABC, ESPN, none of them could analyze the series if they had a crystal ball and a time-traveling Delorean. Tim Legler’s the most hilarious though. Before game 1, “the Pistons have no chance”. Before game 2, “the Pistons could make this a series.” Before game 3, “the Pistons have no chance.” High comedy. He’s as great an analyst as he was a player.



    (edited by Reverend J Shaft on 11.6.04 0837)


I agree, and just as pathetic as that is the fact that the media just kiss Laker ass no matter WHAT happens. The announcers insist that "the Lakers are beating themselves" constantly even NOW.

FINALLY last night when it became clear the Pistons were going to win by 20 points Doc Rivers began to let out a comment here and there like "the Lakers are just playing so terrible...uh, er, I mean the Pistons are making them play so terrible with their defense, uh..." It's pathetic. Not to mention the fact that the announcers are making thinly veiled insults about the series itself by saying things like "it's not pretty," etc. It's not pretty? Tough shit. A win is a win, pretty or not. If it's not obvious by now, it never will be: the Pistons opponents don't just play sloppy basketball - the Pistons defense just constantly shuts people down.



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#46 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.42
I hate to be a killjoy but let's not get ahead of what's going on now. Asskicking or not, it's still just one game and the Pistons are only up 2-1.

Back in 2000, the Pacers annihilated the Lakers by 33 and (IIRC) Lakers won out the series. And I need not bring up the Spurs series or how the Lakers responded after the Wolves embarrassed them in Game 2.

As much as the series looks very much in the Horses' favor SO FAR, it's known they don't play all that well after big wins and this is still the same Laker team that plays extremely well when they have to or have no other choice but to. Remember, LA just needs to win 1 game to not just get home court advantage back but to also force the Finals to go back to LA. If the Lakers don't win at the Palace, they're finished and they know it.

I'm all for one of the biggest upsets in NBA history but it ain't over till it's over, folks. The Lake Show's back is against the wall big time right now but it's also go-time for Detroit to prove to the world (and themselves and their opponents) that they can win this thing.




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#47 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95

Me & Mrs. Freeze are going to Staples Center on Sunday to watch Game 4 on the big screen. This is my first time doing that, so it should be fun.

Last night was EMBARRASSING. When watching the Lakers lose, I usually dont start to worry until the 3rd quarter or so. As soon as the Lakers fell behind by 20, I had to turn off the TV to keep from breaking it. Just terrible.

Worst part of last night's game: Having to come to work today & talk basketball with my I-know-absolutely-nothing-about-basketball-and/or-sports-in-general co-worker all morning. TRASH.



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#48 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.71
    Originally posted by Kawshen
    I hate to be a killjoy but let's not get ahead of what's going on now. Asskicking or not, it's still just one game and the Pistons are only up 2-1.

    Back in 2000, the Pacers annihilated the Lakers by 33 and (IIRC) Lakers won out the series. And I need not bring up the Spurs series or how the Lakers responded after the Wolves embarrassed them in Game 2.

    As much as the series looks very much in the Horses' favor SO FAR, it's known they don't play all that well after big wins and this is still the same Laker team that plays extremely well when they have to or have no other choice but to. Remember, LA just needs to win 1 game to not just get home court advantage back but to also force the Finals to go back to LA. If the Lakers don't win at the Palace, they're finished and they know it.

    I'm all for one of the biggest upsets in NBA history but it ain't over till it's over, folks. The Lake Show's back is against the wall big time right now but it's also go-time for Detroit to prove to the world (and themselves and their opponents) that they can win this thing.


The difference is, LA was already up 2-0 in the Pacer series. This is the first time in the Shaq/Kobe era that the Lakers didn't get their 2nd victory in a finals before the other team did.



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#49 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.39
    Originally posted by Kawshen
    I hate to be a killjoy but let's not get ahead of what's going on now. Asskicking or not, it's still just one game and the Pistons are only up 2-1.

    Back in 2000, the Pacers annihilated the Lakers by 33 and (IIRC) Lakers won out the series. And I need not bring up the Spurs series or how the Lakers responded after the Wolves embarrassed them in Game 2.


I agree. I don't think myself or KaneRobot thinks the series is even close to being over, but to not celebrate the Pistons win last night (especially after the media all but buried them) is to take away the big sh*t sandwich that they served the majority of people who didn't think the Stones had a chance in this series.

    Originally posted by Kawshen
    As much as the series looks very much in the Horses' favor SO FAR, it's known they don't play all that well after big wins ...


That's incorrect. In game 6 against the Nets IN N.J., the Pistons pulled off the upset and then slammed the door on them in game 7. In game 2 of the Pacers series, Prince had that awesome block that saved the lead for the Pistons and then they went on to win game 3.

Regardless, I don't believe in trends anyway. Everyone makes a big deal about no team ever winning all 3 games at home since the 2-3-2 format. BFD. Phil Jackson has never been down 2-1 in a series before. Whatever.



(edited by Reverend J Shaft on 11.6.04 1439)
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#50 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.75
    Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft
    Whatever.


Yes? (*ba-dum-dum*)

I am *so* pulling for the Pistons here. God, I HATE the Lakers.



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#51 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.96
    Originally posted by Kawshen
    I hate to be a killjoy but let's not get ahead of what's going on now. Asskicking or not, it's still just one game and the Pistons are only up 2-1.



Indeed. I'm still not convinced the Pistons are going to win this series (although if the Pistons win game 4, that goes out the window).

The Lakers are 0-7 in Finals when trailing 2-1. Not that it means anything the here and now, it's just an interesting stat.



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... All I'm going to say --

This series is long from being over with. Everyone said the Lakers were going down after San Antonio went up 2-0 in the 2nd round, and then the Lakers beat the defending champs 4 in a row. The Spurs' defense was at least as good in that series as the Pistons' defense is right now.

Things will look very different if and when the Lakers start making their open looks, their open jumpers. They've had plenty of them so far in this series, and they've missed almost all of them. The Lakers' shooting averages are much better than this, and I don't think they're going to go through this entire series not being able to throw a pea in the ocean. I don't think they're going to continue getting tapped on these shots. They're going to eventually go in.

Any team that's struggling offensively is going to look lethargic. That's why almost all of the media and fans have perpetuated this absurd notion that the Lakers are just sleepwalking through these games. The Lakers aren't playing all that badly, but the fact that they haven't been able to hit any jumpers has forced them to drive to the basket and thus play right into the Pistons' hands. Meanwhile, the Pistons have been able to run a simple offense for the most part; most times down they're just setting a pick on the perimeter and draining a 3 or a 20-footer, and consequently they've been able to save most of their energy for playing defense. That's all good when you're hot, but it remains to be seen whether they will continue to shoot the lights out.

The officiating in this series has been, for the most part, atrocious. Particularly in game three, where their calls were dramatically skewed in the Pistons' favor. In Game 3, it was a case of the officials playing to the crowd, as they have been doing more and more in the last several years. Underneath the basket, it's easy to see. Rebound chances are being pulled down by the Pistons after obvious push-offs, holding, and over-the-backs that aren't being called both ways. I don't blame Detroit for taking advantage of this discrepancy; they're out there to win. But they're having to resort to this kind of play underneath because the Lakers' forwards (and guards) are bigger, and more importantly, stronger.

I've said earlier in this thread that I like the Pistons as a team. I like the fact that they work hard, and over the last few years as an organization, they've done things the right way. They're going to win a title soon; perhaps this IS their year. But the Lakers haven't come close to putting their best foot forward in this series, and yet they're only down by the slimmest of margins, one game. Detroit should be up 3-0, but "what if"s and "woulda coulda"s don't make it. I know that the Lakers can beat Detroit three games in a row, and that's why I don't consider Sunday's game a "must-win" game for the Lakers. All it takes for the Lakers to win this is their players shooting their average, the Pistons cooling off offensively to more realistic levels, and for the officials to allow an even battle on the glass. That isn't much when you think about it. So, we'll see.





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#53 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.71
    Originally posted by J.T. Dutch
    ... All I'm going to say --

    This series is long from being over with. Everyone said the Lakers were going down after San Antonio went up 2-0 in the 2nd round, and then the Lakers beat the defending champs 4 in a row. The Spurs' defense was at least as good in that series as the Pistons' defense is right now.





I disagree about the defense. As good as SA played D, Detroit is much superior in that category. And as far as being down 2-0 in the SA series, LA lost the first 2 then on the road. They then went back home where they were undefeated until game 1 of the finals. Can LA take one of the next two in Detroit? Sure. It won't be as easy as it was in the Spurs series though. Even if they do, Detroit has proven they can win in LA.

    Originally posted by J.T. Dutch
    ...
    Things will look very different if and when the Lakers start making their open looks, their open jumpers. They've had plenty of them so far in this series, and they've missed almost all of them. The Lakers' shooting averages are much better than this, and I don't think they're going to go through this entire series not being able to throw a pea in the ocean. I don't think they're going to continue getting tapped on these shots. They're going to eventually go in.

    Any team that's struggling offensively is going to look lethargic. That's why almost all of the media and fans have perpetuated this absurd notion that the Lakers are just sleepwalking through these games. The Lakers aren't playing all that badly, but the fact that they haven't been able to hit any jumpers has forced them to drive to the basket and thus play right into the Pistons' hands. Meanwhile, the Pistons have been able to run a simple offense for the most part; most times down they're just setting a pick on the perimeter and draining a 3 or a 20-footer, and consequently they've been able to save most of their energy for playing defense. That's all good when you're hot, but it remains to be seen whether they will continue to shoot the lights out.





From what I've seen , LA hasn't has as much open looks as you think. They have mostly single covered Shaq and Kobe and have dared the other Lakers to get shots against their D. The other Lakers havebn't proven they make shots consistently against their defense. Most of the open looks I saw LA get were in the 4th quarter in game 3 when they were already down double digits.

    Originally posted by J.T. Dutch
    ...
    The officiating in this series has been, for the most part, atrocious. Particularly in game three, where their calls were dramatically skewed in the Pistons' favor. In Game 3, it was a case of the officials playing to the crowd, as they have been doing more and more in the last several years. Underneath the basket, it's easy to see. Rebound chances are being pulled down by the Pistons after obvious push-offs, holding, and over-the-backs that aren't being called both ways. I don't blame Detroit for taking advantage of this discrepancy; they're out there to win. But they're having to resort to this kind of play underneath because the Lakers' forwards (and guards) are bigger, and more importantly, stronger.




This I can somewhat agree with you on. Teams with a rep for good defense do get the benefit of the doubt on foul calls. Still, it's not like the Lakers didn't get the benefit of the doubt too during their playoff runs either.


    Originally posted by J.T. Dutch
    ...
    I've said earlier in this thread that I like the Pistons as a team. I like the fact that they work hard, and over the last few years as an organization, they've done things the right way. They're going to win a title soon; perhaps this IS their year. But the Lakers haven't come close to putting their best foot forward in this series, and yet they're only down by the slimmest of margins, one game. Detroit should be up 3-0, but "what if"s and "woulda coulda"s don't make it. I know that the Lakers can beat Detroit three games in a row, and that's why I don't consider Sunday's game a "must-win" game for the Lakers. All it takes for the Lakers to win this is their players shooting their average, the Pistons cooling off offensively to more realistic levels, and for the officials to allow an even battle on the glass. That isn't much when you think about it. So, we'll see.


LA is capable of running off 3 in a row I'll give you that. And like I said earlier, Detroit is also capable of winning in LA too. My opinion is that whoever wins game 4 most likely wins the series.

(edited by BOSsportsfan34 on 12.6.04 1446)


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#54 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.28
    Originally posted by J.T. Dutch
    The Spurs' defense was at least as good in that series as the Pistons' defense is right now.


I'm gonna have to disagree on that point, as would most everyone else aside from diehard Spurs fans.

    Originally posted by J.T. Dutch
    Any team that's struggling offensively is going to look lethargic. That's why almost all of the media and fans have perpetuated this absurd notion that the Lakers are just sleepwalking through these games. The Lakers aren't playing all that badly, but the fact that they haven't been able to hit any jumpers has forced them to drive to the basket and thus play right into the Pistons' hands.


Again, I disagree. The Pistons are "struggling" offensively just as much as the Lakers, but many might not realize this because of the way they play the whole game. I know I'm not the only one who thought the Lakers had some spectacularly long stretches in Game 3 where they looked like an 8th grade B team.

    Originally posted by J.T. Dutch
    Meanwhile, the Pistons have been able to run a simple offense for the most part; most times down they're just setting a pick on the perimeter and draining a 3 or a 20-footer, and consequently they've been able to save most of their energy for playing defense. That's all good when you're hot, but it remains to be seen whether they will continue to shoot the lights out.


Shoot the lights out? They're shooting 41.9% this series. They shot 43.5% in the regular season.

    Originally posted by J.T. Smith
    The officiating in this series has been, for the most part, atrocious. Particularly in game three, where their calls were dramatically skewed in the Pistons' favor. In Game 3, it was a case of the officials playing to the crowd, as they have been doing more and more in the last several years. Underneath the basket, it's easy to see. Rebound chances are being pulled down by the Pistons after obvious push-offs, holding, and over-the-backs that aren't being called both ways.


The Kings fans on this board might note the irony in a Laker fan complaining about officiating. I would have to say it's been fairly even so far, but I do know refs are less likely to give calls to teams that are playing the game like, oh I dunno...an 8th grade B team. Which might explain Game 3.

    Originally posted by J.T. Smith
    All it takes for the Lakers to win this is their players shooting their average, the Pistons cooling off offensively to more realistic levels, and for the officials to allow an even battle on the glass. That isn't much when you think about it. So, we'll see.


I'll let the true Pistons fans reply to your accusation that the Lakers are only being out-rebounded because the refs are letting the Pistons play dirty. As for the rest of your ideas, you better hope it's that simple. Again though, the Pistons are shooting no better than they do in the regular season. The Lakers can definitely shoot better, sure, but you gotta wonder how domed-up they are knowing that the only way they can score is to either give it to the Big Man or settle for 20-footers. And anyone not named Kobe better goddamn well HIT his 20-footer or he's gonna have to deal with Lord Bryant at the next TO. That's pressure, folks. Everyone watching saw Kobe getting pissed when he wouldn't get the ball. Those teammates know they're gonna hear it from him unless they're playing out of their heads (ie, Walton in Game 2), which just might lead to a few more bricks than normal. Add to that the usually-tough Pistons D, and you got problems.

The Pistons are BEGGING the Lakers to take the ball to the rack, and the Lakers are hesitant (with good reason) because they're ill-equipped. That's a main reason they're down right now, as well as the fact that Malone and Payton have been worthless this entire series. The Pistons are simply out-playing the Lakers, and it's gonna take a little bit more than a few Laker jumpers to change that. If the Lakers aren't gonna hit at a near-50% rate, you'd better hope they figure out how to do some other things well and fast.
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#55 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.96
A LAKERS fan complaining about the officiating? That's got so much irony in it I'm drowning.

Everyone from the NBA front office to ABC Broadcasting (as an amused friend reminded me: Remember - It's not "can the Pistons go up three games to one?", it's "can the Lakers tie the series at two games apiece?") wants the Lakers to win. The Lakers are a "great story," the Pistons are just a hard-working team. Apparently hard-working teams are boring.

The prospect of a non-superstar defense-and-teamwork oriented team winning against a team with hall-of-famers, some of whom are last chances? We can't have that. In game four, I'd expect the officiating to be more lopsided than Randy Orton refereeing a HBK-HHH match.

The stuff from J.T. Smith has already been touched on so there's no reason for me to repeat. However, I do find the prospect of Rasheed not having to sit the whole first half to be another ace the Pistons haven't even played yet.

*edit (updated later)*

I'm now picking the Lakers to win game 4, because I saw an announcer on ESPN actually pick the Pistons to win the game. That's ultra-mega jinx if I've ever seen it.

Regardless of if the jinx comes through or not, I will agree with the person above that said whoever wins game 4 will likely win the series. If Detroit wins, they've ripped what little heart L.A. has left out of them. If L.A. wins, they get to go home and will likely be making a much stronger effort.

Meaningless side note - Something I noticed in watching the intros from a game in L.A. and a game in Auburn Hills - the player introductions for the Pistons are exactly 3.4 million times better than L.A.'s. I swear to god, the Lakers P.A. announcer announced Shaq in a deadpan voice as "Th cntrrr, svvnnn ftt nnn, Sssskklll Onllll." And I'm no Kid Rock fan, but come on, the Lakers are using one of the worst Van Halen singles ever when THEIR video package plays. Plus then they introduce the Pistons starters to "The Final Countdown," which is neck and neck for best basketball intro song with "Sirius."

(edited by KaneRobot on 13.6.04 1511)

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#56 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.06
No more frickin' talking about how the Lakers came back against the Spurs (no team has EVER come back in 27 tries from a 3-1 deficit). No more frickin' tips from the shit-sucking, ass-ramming, kiss-ass national media about what the Lakers did wrong in this series (the Pistons have shut their asses down). No more of this crap. This series is STILL not over, but I don't wanna hear one frickin' word out of those whiny, bitch-ass Lakers about how they "just let it get away" or "we're not making shots". The Pistons have DOMINATED the Lakers, offensively and defensively. Even that little L.A. front-running bastard Byron Scott must recognize the Pistons' dominance in out-hustling the Lakers.

Like I said, the series is STILL not over, but ENOUGH of the frickin' Laker ass-kissing. Celebrate the Pistons and recognize their greatness thus far in this series!!

JV league my ass. Take that you Eastern Conference haters!!

BRING IT HOME STONES!!!!

EDIT: Oh, and by the way, Michael Wilbon loves the cock. Get outta my city, you little peanuthead bitch.



(edited by Reverend J Shaft on 14.6.04 0029)
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#57 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.41
I think it's official to say that the Purple and Gold are in DEEP, DEEP trouble now. Kobe doesn't hit that 3 and this series would be over right now. Boy, do they miss the Mailman right now.

3-1 Pistons but it's not over until someone gets to 4 and this is the same team that basically swept the defending champions out of the playoffs and onto the fishing boat with EJ, Jet and Chuck.

Good luck, Pistons. Hopefully people will respect this team now.
Good luck, Lakers. If any team can take the next three - it's this one.

(edited by Kawshen on 14.6.04 0034)


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#58 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.96
Shaft basically said what I was going to. Shaq is pathetic with his little "we let this get away" and whining about the referee calls. Bullshit. The Pistons dictated the pace of that entire game. They didn't let anything "get away." It was neck and neck until the 4th when the Pistons pulled away.

Kobe and especially Shaq had solid games tonight, but they still couldn't pull it out. Their confidence has to be very low right now. The mood could change over the next 48 hours, but if there was ever a time for the Pistons to finish them off, it's going to be Tuesday.

Sadly, even more than I want them to win it to have a championship, I want them to win it to see the Laker-sucking media's reaction.



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#59 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.52
All right, dammit, I'll admit it. I've been watching since Game 2, OK? I've gained a degree of grudging admiration for the Pistons. I don't want to see them win so much as I want to see the Lakers lose.

So go Pistons, I guess, but we're still gonna whoop you next year.



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#60 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.46
    Originally posted by KaneRobot
    Kobe and especially Shaq had solid games tonight, but they still couldn't pull it out.


Shaq's "solid" game was 16 of 21 for 36 points and 20 boards.
Kobe 8 of 25 for 20 points and 2 assists.
If the Lakers could swap injured superstars and have Kobe out and Malone fit, they'd be in alot better position IMO.
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